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You sound reluctant to enter into this open relationship. True, you understand where he's coming from, but it seems like you're only doing it because you love him and you're trying to give him what he needs in hopes that he'll get through it and be pleased enough to come back to you.

And that reluctance and appeasement shows me that you are not equally invested in an open relationship, which means that right now, the investment you two have in each other is not the same. He's in a position where "you'll always have his heart" but not his body or sole affection. You're in a position where he'll always have your heart and will be the only one you love.

Being "too young" is relative. Some guys are ready to settle down in a committed monogamous relationship, and some aren't. There's no definite age, and the fact that he says that he thinks he might be too young and you don't feel that way says to me that you're also on a different wavelength. You're in need of someone who's ready, too. He's, quite frankly, not.

So I'll be straight with you, and this is what I think: I think it's over. I think you two need to actually break up, because I think you deserve someone who wants the same things you do and he deserves someone who wants the same things he does. He wants to fuck around carefree, and you want to be committed to someone who is committed to you. Right now, you're allowing him to have what he wants, but is he reciprocating what it is you truly want--a boyfriend who loves only you and who only wants to pay his sexual and romantic attention to you? No. And it's impossible for him to do that.

The two of you cannot both get what you want from a committed relationship or an open relationship, one of you is going to have to settle with what you don't want. It sounds like he doesn't want a committed relationship, and it sounds like you don't want a partner in an open relationship.

So sit him down. Tell him what it is you want and why you want it and ask him to be honest with you (because you deserve that) and tell you what it is he wants. My guess is that if he's honest, he'll tell you that deep down, he wants to be free to have lots of sex with different people and experience a ton of different relationships. if that's the case, it's unfair for him to be onligated into monogamy and it's unfair for him to keep you hanging on and devoted to him while he goes and fucks around.

You may have to actually break up and let him fuck around while you look for someone else. And maybe if one day you're not involved and he's tired of all his fun, you guys can try again when you're both on the same page. But right now, I think what he's doing is unfair to you and how you feel about him.

The point is, you may love him, but don't settle. The two of you have to want the same kind of relationship and it looks like what he wants is not what you want at all.
 
I'm with Lumi on what he said.

I'd also like to add, that you are well within your rights to tell him you don't want that crap going on in your home.

On a personal note, I, too, was in a LTR in my early twenties. After a couple years things went south. Although I loved her dearly, and still love her, the urge to 'sow my oats' became overwhelming.

We split. It sucked for a year or so. I look back and I survey where I am now. It turned out to be one of the best decisions I made.

So who knows? Although the split will hurt immensely, try and keep an eye on the future and what it may hold.

Good luck to you in whatever you choose.
 
You are the boyfriend. You have a right and a say to who he sleeps with. The "Open Relationship" should have terms both of you have agreed to. It's not fair for him to play around regardless as to how you feel.

It's time you tested the relationship and put your foot down. If he really loves you, he'll respect your wishes.
 
I actually went through something similar with my ex. Though the terms of our relationship were never really established I thought that we only had eyes for each other. I come to find out that he's been propositioning 2 or 3 guys during the time we were involved. And because I was so preoccupied by my affection for him, I overlooked it and thought that he can do what he wants cause I just knew that my feelings for him would win his heart in the end.

And it hurt like hell because I valued the exclusivity of a relationship. I go into one because I want to be with that person, not him and some other guys as well. As old-fashioned and idealistic as it sounds, I never understood the concept of an open relationship. But that's just me, and that's why it hurt so much, and that's why I had to let him go despite how much I cared about him.

Anyway, don't let his needs overpower yours. A relationship is a give and take and it sounds like you're doing a majority of the giving. You're apart of it to and your feelings should matter to him as much as his does to you. Don't sacrifice yourself to please him.

In all honesty, be prepared for the worst because it seems like you two are after different things.
 
ummm RULES RULES RULES !!!

In my case what we did when I wanted an open relationship we did the following things:
* Decided on a time period: 2 months in my case. After that it was to be over and it was.
* Decided on some principles: (may not recall all of them) but these principles were the key, out of which all the other rules sprung out.
- Prevent jealousy
- always have a line of communication open.
- There needs to be trust in the entire process. This is the most important part. If you lose trust you may lose the relationship.
* Veto power: my partner could always veto anyone any time and his decision was final and I was not to break it.
* My partner was to meet the guy before I do anything with him. He usually did it by just saying "Hi". He usually never acknowledged that he's my partner. It was just easier that way. Telling people I have a partner usually freaked them out so I stopped telling them.
* Place: I was to have sex at our place only (at first). Later it got a bit more lax, as when my partner met the guys he was letting me know if it's okay to have sex elsewhere or not.
* Max encounters: 2 times. Reason: not let the guys fall in love with you or vice versa. Use veto power as necessary.

Threesome ? That's an issue you need to talk about.

Talk to your partner about it, lay everything out on the table. Lay some rules down. There is no way around it.
 
I think the big chunk of your issue here is that guy. Why THAT guy ? Will it be safer to just not do anything with this guy ? Something to talk about.

If this guy is falling in love with your boyfriend, I would seriously be concerned about your boyfriend having sex with him. Simply as doing so may hurt the guy. It's up to you of course, but I'm against hurting someone when it can be avoided.

One of the guys I had sex with during my open relationship still calls me every few days or so telling me he needs me. All I wanted then was sex. I am not back to my relationship and I don't want nor need this guy, but apparently I was something bigger for him. Even though I made it clear that all I'm after is sex ... feelings are feelings. My partner vetoed him. He said it's okay to be friends with him, but apparently he wants more.

In your case it seems that you already know that the guy has feelings for your boyfriend and is not just "for sex". An issue to address.

Your situation seems to be out of control now. Things may go haywire. I seriously wouldn't let the guy stay 3 days in your house, unless you want some drama in your life. Get a hotel room for him or something. I want to say that you should veto this guy in the first place, due to all the possible drama that can happen if you let things happen the way they are going.

I realize also that vetoing him will be hard as apparently your boyfriend wanted an open relationship so that he could sleep with this guy. Dunno. Another way to do things is to get the guy a hotel room. Let your boyfriend sleep with him once or twice and then end it with the guy. And by sleeping I mean: a trip to the hotel room, play, be back in a few hours. No hanging out or socializing with the guy.

Oh yeah, here I'm going from "sex only" open relationship. Both of you need to figure out the purpose of opening up your relationship. Mine was for sex.
 
You're not comfortable with an open relationship which is acceptable. Sit down and talk it out with him. If he still wants an open relationship, then I'm sorry to say, he's not the one for you. Someone who cares for you will repsect your wishes on the important issues.
 
Here're some lyrics from an oldie that I think suit your situation perfectly:

Set me free, why don’t cha babe
Get out my life, why don’t cha babe
’cause you don’t really love me
You just keep me hangin’ on
You don’t really need me
But you keep me hangin’ on

Why do you keep a coming around
Playing with my heart?
Why don’t you get out of my life
And let me make a new start?
Let me get over you
The way you’ve gotten over me

Set me free, why don’t cha babe
Let me be, why don’t cha babe
’cause you don’t really love me
You just keep me hangin’ on
Now you don’t really want me
You just keep me hangin’ on

You say although we broke up
You still wanna be just friends
But how can we still be friends
When seeing you only breaks my heart again
And there ain’t nothing I can do about it

Woo, set me free, why don’t cha babe
Woo, get out my life, why don’t cha babe
Set me free, why don’t cha babe
Get out my life, why don’t cha babe

You claim you still care for me
But your heart and soul needs to be free
Now that you’ve got your freedom
You wanna still hold on to me
You don’t want me for yourself
So let me find somebody else, hey!


Why don’t you be a man about it
And set me free
Now you don’t care a thing about me
You’re just using me
Go on, get out, get out of my life
And let me sleep at night
’cause you don’t really love me
You just keep me hangin’ on...
 
i love my current boyfriend so much. we are in a serious ltr and we love each other so much. we are both young 21y/o. we have had few arguments, not many problems, are open to each other and get along so great, we have so much in common, i swear i could be with him for the rest of my life! we have lived together for almost a year. however he has been feeling concerned that he is too young to be in this kind of relationship and he brought up the idea of having an "open relationship" type commitment. even though i would describe it as a break up, and just "good friends", plus we are still living together. he says he doesnt like to call this a break up because i will always have his heart and we will still be there for each other. i feel like he just doesnt want to make me sad by giving me such vague answers abut our relationship, but i still need and feel like i deserve a cut and dry answer out of this. now i know that we are young and i feel where he is coming from too and so i dont mind doing the "open relationship".

however, only a couple days after this happens he tells me about a guy that he wants to mess with and he's asking me if its alright if he invites this guy over for a few days. i tell him its alright with me, this is the space he wants, the purpose of having the open relationship, so i will give it to him. then he tells me more about this guy and i ask him some stuff about him and this guy is supposedly falling in love with my boyfriend. this guy knows about our situation and i have even talked to him on the phone before but i feel like he is totally oblivious to the fact that i love my boyfriend and that he is the one i want to be with for the rest of my life. i dont know how this guy is falling for my boyfriend when they havent even met before. my boyfriend is only attracted to this guy, he has no feelings for him. my boyfriend often reminds him of our situation and we come to terms of having a threesome somehow. and once he flies in, he would have to hang out with us for about three days until he leaves.

im not even sure what is going on now. i know that this guy is in the navy and he is planning to visit this week. i know that this guy doesnt even know me, he only wants my boyfriend, not really any intention of a threesome. i feel like i deserve the respect as a boyfriend and as a human being to not be put through this by my boyfriend. i dont want to let him go but i am so confused because i feel like he doesnt realize how i feel that he is planning to get with some guy that is very attracted to him. i want to stand up and let him know that i dont mind if he sees other people but i really dont want him to get with this guy in our home.

i am rambling off my emotions and i dont know if i make my situation totally clear but i really need some advice. how do give my boy the space he needs? how do i do that without getting hurt myself? how do i let him know i want him to have that space but he can do it in a way that doesnt disrespect me? i want him to know he will always have my heart but i dont know how long that will last because if he continues to do some of the things he is doing, i will have to leave because it is breaking my heart so much :cry:


You're so young, why would you even think of entering an open relationship with someone that wants to mess around with others so soon. And you want to spend the rest of your life in this type of situation? I have nothing against open relationships, but if you were like me, I think you should want something more substantial, someone who would find in you all his sexual satisfaction.
 
Tell your boyfriend that if he wants to spend the weekend with this guy then they need to get a room at a hotel. This is your home too and he should respect your feelings. remind him that his new friend will be gone in three days and he will have to deal with the consecuences of his actions.
You cannot control his actions but you have total control of your own. If this situation is uncomfotable, it's time to move on.
 
Like O2 and Philia, I have been there too. I had a boyfriend who insisted on an open relationship and I gave in because I was so in love with him. Of course, I never dated anyone else only because I had no desire to and according to him he was not dating anyone else either (and looking back at his hectic life during our courtship it seems to be the truth). He apparently insisted more so because he did not want me to be tied down with someone who cannot potentially bring me the happiness he says I deserve. But isn't love supposed to trump that, hoping things will change? That is why I stuck around - for 5 long years.

Well, after my refusing to see anyone else and his continued insistence that I see other people, I did in fact eventually find an interest in someone else [a train wreck in itself, but I digress] and now I figured he would be happy (so, in my mind I could date this other guy and still see him and all is well). Well, when I told him he just blew up in my face about it "How could you do this to me?" and everything and you guessed it, I was confused as hell! He broke up with me that very evening and we did not speak for a year. He and I then turned out to be good friends after the year apart but I am actively distancing myself from him now because in the long run what's best for me emotionally is to cut him out of my life as I decided it's not mentally healthy for me and my present relationship (I have kind of mentioned this in another post somewhere else for those of you for whom the story sounds familiar). Anyway, when we reunited as friends it was a good opportunity to find out WHY he had broken off with me when I told him I was seeing someone else and we had an open relationship. He told me that it turns out that the night that I told him about the other guy was the same night that he was going to tell me that we should forget about open relationship and that he only wanted to be with me. :eek: As I sit here, I cannot help to think how much bullshit was shoveled into that answer.

I know right now my scenario is not a viable solution for you, but with time you will gain perspective and realize on your own what you need to do to survive this. Honestly, what your boyfriend is doing is so dirty-assed wrong. It's one thing to have an open relationship but to bring another guy he is interested in around you? That's twisting the knife in your back a little isn't it? Too bad you live with him, because if you did not the answer would be simple -- RUN!

Like the guys above me have said, you have to come to realize that things do not look good. Don't waste your time pawing over a guy who does not want to commit to you 100% when in fact that is what you want. There are so many guys out there that will give you what you are looking for and if you give yourself the chance you'll gravitate toward one of them, and he to you. You're young, dude. What you think is your world now will make you laugh in your 30s. That's my situation now and sometimes I cannot believe the things I did in my past that I thought were oh-so-important dating decisions. I'm still not perfect, but I do know not to waste my time with someone whose intentions are not in line with mine. I'm not gonna fight to make someone like me - they have to do that on their own or else I'm moving on.

You, my friend need to step up and tell him how you feel. This is gonna hurt, but you'll be so glad later that you did it. You are worth more than this.

(*8*)
 
Tell him you feel. Can you trust your relationship? If you can, go ahead and tell how you truly feel.
 
I love my partner very much but if he were to tell me that he wanted an open relationship I'd be pissed and tell him its over with. I know it'd be hard but hey, theres nothing wrong with wanting your partner all to yourself. Isn't that how it should be?
 
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