Harke, you're FIRED!

[Harke the Boeotarch]

Yes, I lost my job for making 'discriminatory' remarks to a Polish person when I was tired of him ordering me around.

(The whole factory is sick and tired of the Poles and the manager sent me away mostly because they didn't want a wholesale mutiny on their hands and also because they were letting off people with whom they found the slightest flaw).

Yes people, this is the labor reality of the European Union.

I'm glad to be rid of the social realist drama I've been submerged in since the 9th of August, but dammit! I need the money!



The Dutch translation of The Internationale translated by Henriette Roland Holst.

 

[SilverSurfer]

Losing your job is always an ordeal. I wish you the best of luck in finding gainful employment.

I'd be lyin' if I said you didn't push some of my pc buttons, but I'm not gonna judge. I know very little about European social tensions.

 

[kallipolis]

Yes, I lost my job for making 'discriminatory' remarks to a Polish person when I was tired of him ordering me around.

(The whole factory is sick and tired of the Poles and the manager sent me away mostly because they didn't want a wholesale mutiny on their hands and also because they were letting off people with whom they found the slightest flaw).

Yes people, this is the labor reality of the European Union.

I'm glad to be rid of the social realist drama I've been submerged in since the 9th of August, but dammit! I need the money!

Your gritty determination will very quickly reward you with fresh employment.

Good luck.

 

[strangepoetry]

From what I recall, you've made some pretty spectacularly racist comments around here as well, so that's not really surprising.

Maybe you should tone down the bigotry.
Just sayin.

 

[borg69unimatrix]

No idea what the labor laws are in the European Union, but you probably would have been fired for it here in the US too.

 

[TheFireGod]

You didn't tell us the whole story, like the Polish guy's position relative to yours and the exact remark you made.

Otherwise, hope you find another (hopefully better) job ASAP.

 

[pat grimshaw]

You didn't tell us the whole story, like …

like how many poles in the factory?, like

 

[Fuzzy1]

That's the first time I've heard the "Internationle" in dutch, I found the version well sung, I've usually heard it in russian, or french, once in english in the movie Reds. Criicizing people on the basis of race, religion or sexual orientation will get one in trouble in most places, I sympathize with you loosing your job, and hope you find another soon.

 

[pat grimshaw]

can one make generalisations about Poles?

sophisticated? moody? arty? strong cheekbones? gloomy? they're all martinets?

 

[racer2438]

If you can't play in a glass house ---don't throw rocks.

This may be a lesson in what many people have to deal with and that's people making racist/homophobic or any kind of derogatory remarks about/to someone.

it's called live and learn. As you have now learned what the end result is if you continue this path, not only where you are but on this forum also..

 

[LilBit]

Surely this isn't the first time you've been fired for making bigoted comments...

 

[swerve]

I wish you the BEST of LUCK in your future endeavors Harke!!!

Take this time to find the REALLY GOOD job that you've ALWAYS wanted!!!

 

[Harke the Boeotarch]

That's the first time I've heard the "Internationle" in dutch, I found the version well sung, I've usually heard it in russian, or french, once in english in the movie Reds. Criicizing people on the basis of race, religion or sexual orientation will get one in trouble in most places, I sympathize with you loosing your job, and hope you find another soon.

The word was 'discrimination'. I begged to differ and pointed out that EU labor laws don't actually automatically entitle every EU citizen to take every job in any of the member states.

can one make generalisations about Poles?

sophisticated? moody? arty? strong cheekbones? gloomy? they're all martinets?

It was about the above statement.
Note by the way that the guy I argued with didn't fire me, and very likely did not want me fired.

If you can't play in a glass house ---don't throw rocks.

This may be a lesson in what many people have to deal with and that's people making racist/homophobic or any kind of derogatory remarks about/to someone.

it's called live and learn. As you have now learned what the end result is if you continue this path, not only where you are but on this forum also..

Poles are what race again?

Surely this isn't the first time you've been fired for making bigoted comments...

Absolutely not.

I wish you the BEST of LUCK in your future endeavors Harke!!!

Take this time to find the REALLY GOOD job that you've ALWAYS wanted!!!

Thank you.

 

[Harke the Boeotarch]

No idea what the labor laws are in the European Union, but you probably would have been fired for it here in the US too.

I don't know about the US, but I think problems caused by cheap labor immigration are similar.
The problem with the labor laws in the EU that they haven't actually cristalized yet.

You didn't tell us the whole story, like the Polish guy's position relative to yours and the exact remark you made.

Otherwise, hope you find another (hopefully better) job ASAP.

The Polish guy was the shift manager assistant (a lowly pretend position made up so the actual manager needn't bother but paid the same) of the next shift. He was ordering me around am yet again*, I swore and walked out on him (it was time top stop anyway).

*) Being from a formerly Communist country the social 'niceties' of capitalist society are largely unknown to many of the Polish workers in the Netherlands.
It can be charming, but it's hardly handy in a work relationship.

He came after me in the lockerroom and we had the discussion. The manager was there and the shift manager assistant left.
Somewhere halfway during the conversation he made up his mind.
And told me to get my work form (I knew the drill, when he sent half a dozen of others away halfway through the week he always did), and that was that.

Your gritty determination will very quickly reward you with fresh employment.

Good luck.

Let's hope something with a more humanistically inclined management.

 

[Harke the Boeotarch]

Surely this isn't the first time you've been fired for making bigoted comments...

Absolutely not.

It was, I mean.

But note that I was a temp worker and didn't even need to do something wrong to get sent away at any convenient moment.

 

[sixthson]

Just have a polska kielbasa for supper...you'll feel better.

 

[Harke the Boeotarch]

Just have a polska kielbasa for supper...you'll feel better.

I can get one at the local Polish supermarket that they have in my village now.

 

[Críostóir]

I'm still not clear on what happened. It sounds like your immediate supervisor gave you an order, you cursed at him and walked away, and at some point in there you said he shouldn't even have that job because he's a Pole.

Is that about what happened?

 

[Harke the Boeotarch]

I'm still not clear on what happened. It sounds like your immediate supervisor gave you an order, you cursed at him and walked away, and at some point in there you said he shouldn't even have that job because he's a Pole.

Is that about what happened?

He wasn't my supervisor. He was the supervisor of the next shift. We worked 24/7 around the clock. I have the bad tendency to be one the two hardest working people on my shift when we close, and I don't appreciate it when I get ordered around for going to the trouble of being the only other person (besides our assistant shift manager who happens to be Polish as well) who seems to be arranging anything at that time. (and remember we've been doing this for seven months already).

And I didn't swore at him. I swore at the bullshit job.

 

[Críostóir]

He wasn't my supervisor. He was the supervisor of the next shift. We worked 24/7 around the clock. I have the bad tendency to be one the two hardest working people on my shift when we close, and I don't appreciate it when I get ordered around for going to the trouble of being the only other person (besides our assistant shift manager who happens to be Polish as well) who seems to be arranging anything at that time. (and remember we've been doing this for seven months already).

And I didn't swore at him. I swore at the bullshit job.

Did he technically (in the eyes of the bullshit job) have authority over you, even though he was the super of the next shift?

Also...what was the "discriminatory" remark? You sound like you resented him giving you orders in part because he was Polish. Did you say so in the course of swearing at the job?