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Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix

So the edit button isnt there. I think it might have something to do with the fact that someone quoted it. So if he will unquote it I will remove it.

JUST SO YOU KNOW I AM NOT FULL OF SHIT. I uploaded to megaupload. here is the link.

[link removed]

You dont have to read it just look and you will see I am not lying.

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So certain I was that what you linked to wasn't real, I downloaded and looked at it. It's such a poorly done fake it's funny. It's terrible writing. Either you're very gullible and can't spot a fake, or you are trying to fool people into thinking you got something cool on your hands, when in fact you have some sad, poor fool's attempt at punking gullible people.
 
Anyway, getting back to the movie.

I thought it was "meh"

Don't read if you don't want spoilers for the movie, although if you read the book, I don't think it really matters.

The whole thing felt so choppy and rushed, it really pissed me off. Transitions from scene to scene felt so forced, it's like they're in a fucking hurry to fit the movie in the alloted timespan. And really, stick to the script, I know it's hard but still, they left out MAJOR PARTS!

WHERE WAS QUIDDITCH! It's Ron's turn to show off and they completely cut that out of the movie. Quidditch scenes at MOST, would fill up 20 minutes, and they didn't even include it, ugh. And Cho Chang definitely didn't squeal on them, it was her friend. But oh wells I guess. The Fred and George busting out part wasn't satisfying enough, where was that stinky bog?!?! And Dumbledore is getting more pathetic movie by movie, the old Dumbledore used to have this powerful aura and presence to him, now he's this skinny feeble old man.

But enough with the bad stuff, there were some epic moments in the movie. Like the flying the broom around London part, that was sweet. The end with the fighting was intense too, although it was a bit comical. At one point, I thought Ginny said "VAGINAFY"

Lol

Oh, and Luna Lovegood is hot as hell.
 
I don't read the books so I can pretty much take the movie in it's entirety as a separate entity.

Spoilers ahoy:
I honestly didn't feel like it was going anywhere. It would jump from one thing to the next without a sense of completion I felt. Or maybe I'm just not comfortable with the fact that they were all after Voldemort and the bastard just ran off.

I also felt that Harry was hogging all the screen time. Sure he's the main character, but that whole bit about having friends and something to lose and what not and Ron, Hermione, as well as the other people, had probably a handful of lines. I'm not so much concerned about the other people since they're not particularly well established, but at the very least Ron and Hermione should have been portrayed more substantially rather than just props.

Other than that, overall I enjoyed it. I grew rather fond of that Neville kid. He's so adorable.
 
I loved the movie. I felt they left out a lot of stuff I would have loved to see like when Hagrid visited the Giants. I wished they would have taken up the time to show them going through the maze of the Department of Mysteries with the doors and everything.

I do find it funny that this was the shortest movie although the 5th book is the biggest so far. I hope the seventh is nice and fat. I'll probably be crying once I read the last line.
 
And I must say. Ron has grown up so nicely. I like him so much more than Daniel and mmmm.

I liked how they put in the tension between Ron and Hermione on liking each other. I only pray she allows them to get together in the last book. Its about fucking time in my opinion.
 
Sorry once again. But you really dont need to be an asshole about it soilwork. You could have just asked for me to take it down or something

If he had done just that, the message wouldn't have stuck, now would it!?


Anyway, getting back to the movie.
The whole thing felt so choppy and rushed, it really pissed me off. Transitions from scene to scene felt so forced, it's like they're in a fucking hurry to fit the movie in the alloted timespan. And really, stick to the script, I know it's hard but still, they left out MAJOR PARTS!

Hmm... I think that's the friggin' point!! If they weren't making their best attempts to fit the book into the big screen, then they'd have quite a handful of whiny bitches complaining about the movie, even though they've already got that sort of pest problem right now [STRIKE](not to imply anything of the sort to your own complaints, of course.)[/STRIKE]

I do, however, agree that bit seemed a tad it rushed, but it's all for the sake of helping out [strike]illiterate and lazy[/strike] ahem, people who cannot find the time to read the book.

And though the movie seemed anticlimatic (especially since the only big lead-up to the fight with Voldemort is the fireworks scene), I think it's fair to say that there wouldn't have been a better way to skip past all those superfluous transitions-- which brings me to my point: If you're gonna' complain about choppy scenes, rushed scenes, and/or deleted scenes, why don't you try to adapt the book on film and produce it so that it actually follows the fluidity of standard action/fantasy movies. Or why don't you enter the film indusrty and take a one hour class all about time allotment and the cons of having a film that is ridiculously lengthly? Yeah, that's right. Who's critiquing now?


Oh, and Luna Lovegood is hot as hell.
Well, you sure know how pedophiles think, don't ya? Oh wait, is that a state or normality for you?

I APOLOGIZE FOR ANY COMMENTS THAT WILL BE PERCIEVED AS RUDE, BUT I"M JUST DOING THE SAME TO YOU, AS YOU ARE DOING TO THIS BRILLIANTLY ADAPTED MOVIE.
 
I loved the movie, and planned to watch it again this Sunday.

I loved it because Harry Potter really looked yummy this time. I could not get my eyes off his good look, his arms and the tight shirt.

The magic the kids played.

The showdown between good and evil at the end.

The girl who played Luna, Helena and the new Prof were all excellent.

I loved the starting scene where HP was forced to display his power.

I loved this HP movie best among all the 5.
 
Ok, I read the so-called spoilers that were posted about the book. I remember when this crap happen two summers ago for Half Blood Prince. As I recall, every single person that claimed to have read the manuscript was in the end proven to be a liar. If you actually read the post it doesn't sound like JK's writing at all. It is ludicrous. For one thing she has never written an epilogue and i can't see her doing that now. And correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it established a while back that the last word of the final book would be "scar". Ignore this person and their spoilers, it's all BS. Let's just wait until next Friday and all find out for ourselves.
 
We will find out on the 21st.

But I thought you werent going to download it????
j/k4

By the way I just re-read what I posted earlier and I am sorry for being a jerk. It wasnt that I needed to take meds, but that I was on them.

When I take Benedryl for allergies I turn evil. Im not joking, I turn into the worlds biggest asshole. That is what I took at about 4 o'clock and 8 o'clock cuz I couldnt sleep. #-o

I couldnt hardly believe I actually said that, so sorry once again pop tart.

And I dunno I read all 6XX pages and I thought It seemed pretty well thought out. So maybe it is a fake and some ass had way to much time on their hands. Or maybe someone snuck it out of the publishing company. But either way I only posted the spoiler because I thought that maybe other people were like me, who reads the end before the beginning. if I dont I cant hardly finish a book. I wasnt trying to get attention but thought someone might want to know.

I think it would be funny if it was real and that would mean you just said that JK Rowling's writing was horrible. lol

Sorry again.

And mods, if you could like delete my spoiler, that would be great.









And getting back to the movie and thread at hand.

I loved it.
I liked it way better than Goblet and Prisoner. I like it better than prisoner because prisoner was kind of a shock to me since it was soooo differnet than Stone and Chamber. ANd the new Dumblydore was thrown in. Goblet just left out so much stuff. There was so much more than just the tournament.

Well theres my $.02

Your apology is accepted. I have never heard of Benadryl causing someone to do that before. It's a drug that puts people to sleep.

Given what you posted is a complete novel, I can sort of understand why you'd think it was the real deal - it seems generally unlikely that someone would write their own Book 7 just as a spoof. But that is indeed what this is - the writing style is very noticeably different than JK's, and the idea of the manuscript leaking is simply unbelievable.

It's from a Potter fan who probably had a lot of fun writing it. I daresay if someone has it in them to write that, they shouldn't be wasting their time writing it. Get cracking on a real book that you can publish and make some money.

It's fake, though. A recent Time Magazine story detailed the security around the book. About 4 people have read it. The American editor, the British editor, the illustrator, and maybe one other person at the publishers. No one is getting advance copies - not even Daniel Radcliffe. There is zero chance a real copy leaked.

My advice: don't make any bets with anyone it's real.
 
Here is that story.

Wednesday, Jun. 27, 2007
Harry Potter and the Sinister Spoilers
By LEV GROSSMAN and ANDREA SACHS
You might think the most important product that the publisher Scholastic will release this summer is Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, the seventh and last book in J.K. Rowling's nearly infinitely bestselling fantasy series. But you would be wrong. Deathly Hallows, which goes on sale at the stroke of midnight on July 21, is merely a by-product, the catalyst for something else. The real product is something that Scholastic executives call, in hushed, reverential tones, "the magic moment."

This is the moment of ineffable, intangible ecstasy that occurs when a reader opens his or her brand-new $34.99 copy of Deathly Hallows for the first time. "All the way through the process, everybody who touches this [manuscript] has the same goal in mind," says Arthur A. Levine, Rowling's editor. "Midnight. Kids." The magic moment is a rare and delicate thing: it occurs only when the reader comes to the book in a state of pure ignorance, with no advance knowledge of its contents. For the magic moment to happen, the theory goes, the reader's mind must be preserved in a state of absolute innocence—it must be, in Internet parlance, spoiler-free. So to preserve the magic moment against informational contamination—via the Web or watercooler conversation or the Rita Skeeters of the global media—Scholastic has created an infrastructure around Deathly Hallows unlike anything the publishing world has ever seen.

On Tuesday, July 3, if they stick to their custom, roughly a dozen people will gather in a conference room on the sixth floor of Scholastic's headquarters in Manhattan, as they have done nearly every Tuesday this year. They are members of the Harry Potter brain trust, the people in charge of every aspect of the seventh coming of Harry Potter in the U.S. The group includes, among others, Levine; Lisa Holton, president of Scholastic's trade division; Scholastic's art director and its heads of sales, marketing, production, communications and manufacturing; and the company's general counsel, Mark Seidenfeld. "This room is really the most paranoid room," says Holton. "We don't talk to our children and spouses for months." The seriousness with which the members of the Harry Potter brain trust regard their collective mission cannot be overstated. "We have always known that the series is already a modern classic," Holton says. "If you think about it in terms of literature, I can't think of another series—not just in children's literature but in adult—that does what J.K. Rowling does. Even Dickens doesn't come close."

The job of the Harry Potter brain trust begins when Rowling's creative process ends. In the case of Deathly Hallows, that happened on Jan. 11, 2007, when Rowling (whose name, let it be said for now and all time, rhymes with bowling and not howling) wrote the very last word of the Harry Potter saga in a suite at the Balmoral hotel in Edinburgh. The task of traveling to England to pick up the manuscript fell to Seidenfeld. To make absolutely sure the manuscript was safe on the plane, he sat on it.

But he didn't read it. Even this close to the book's release, very few people at Scholastic have had any actual contact with the contents of Deathly Hallows—"a handful," according to Kyle Good, Scholastic's head of communications. Among that handful was Levine, who gets to edit the world's most famous writer. ("She's very strong, but she's not blind," he says. "She seems really to value when we ask her questions. She'll say, 'Oh, I knew what that was in my mind, but if it's not coming across that way, why don't we say X.'") Another early reader was a studious 28-year-old named Cheryl Klein, whose job title is continuity editor. Rowling's books have become so complex—and their fans so obsessively nitpicky—that it takes a full-time Potterologist to make sure Rowling's fictional universe stays factually consistent. "I keep track of all of the various proper nouns that appear in the series," says Klein. "For instance, with Bertie Bott's Every Flavor Beans, I make sure it's always B-o-t-t-apostrophe-s. Every Flavor is not hyphenated, and Flavor does not have a u." It's a tough beat: Klein acknowledges, for example, that in Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, Moaning Myrtle sits in a U-bend toilet, whereas in Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, she occupies an S-bend toilet (this crept in, it should be noted, before Klein's tenure, which began after Goblet). Klein has either the worst job in the world or the best, depending on how you look at it.

Like everyone else at Scholastic, Klein maintains the Harry Potter omertà. "Most people know better than to ask," she says. "That includes my friends and my family and everyone else." After Rowling revised the manuscript, per Levine's and Klein's suggestions, Klein flew to England to pick up the new draft. On her way home she was stopped for a random security check at Heathrow. "The woman opens up my bag, and she starts pawing through it. And she says, 'Wow! You have a lot of paper here.' And I thought, Oh, God, she's going to look at it, and she's going to see the names Harry and Ron and Hermione. But I just smiled, and I said, 'Yes, a lot of paper!' And she said, 'Uh-huh,' and she zipped it up. That was the end of the scariest two minutes of my life."

At first the number of copies of the Deathly Hallows manuscript was kept to an absolute minimum. One went to the book's designer. Also admitted to the inner circle was Mary GrandPré, the Florida-based artist who illustrates the U.S. editions. (If you've seen the English cover for Deathly Hallows, you know how lucky Americans are to have GrandPré.) "She is a wonderful lady," Good says. "She had an image of what Harry Potter looked like, but when she went to actually draw his face, she was really having a lot of trouble. She had the messy hair, the glasses, but what did his jawline look like? She walked over, and she looked in the mirror, and she sketched her own face."

While GrandPré studied her jawline in the mirror and searched for inspiration, the heavy industrial gears of the Harry Potter engine were beginning to grind up north. The more copies of a book a publisher prints, the more security issues multiply, and Deathly Hallows has the largest first printing of any book in history. By July 21, Scholastic will have shipped 12 million copies for the U.S. market alone. The threat to the magic moment is quite real. In 2003 a forklift driver at a British printing plant was caught hawking pages from Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. A month before Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince went on sale, two men were arrested in England for trying to sell a copy to a reporter; one of them is currently doing 4 1⁄2 years. As a result, Scholastic won't give out the locations of the printing plants it uses or even how many there are. (As for Bloomsbury, the series' British publisher, it fiercely denies a rumor that it forces factory workers to print Deathly Hallows in pitch darkness.) The finished books travel to stores on pallets, sealed in black plastic, in trucks tracked by GPS.

But Scholastic's reach can extend only so far, and once the books are delivered, security is in the hands of the bookstore owners, all of whom sign a long, tightly worded legal agreement requiring them to keep the boxes unopened until 12:01 a.m. on July 21. "No one here sees them," says Kim Brown, vice president of merchandising at Barnes & Noble, which hires an outside security firm to guard the padlocked trucks in which it stores its copies of Deathly Hallows. "We have our fulfillment centers cordon off a special section for the Harry Potter books," says Sean Sundwall of Amazon.com. "Only a very small number of people are allowed to look at it—or breathe on it—and even a smaller number of people can touch it."

That's all well and good for the big players, but libraries and smaller bookstores aren't set up for Azkaban-level security. "The boxes say HARRY POTTER on them, so people get all excited," says Dana Harper, who co-owns Brystone Children's Books in Fort Worth, Texas, with her mother and sister. "Behind the counter, we have them covered with a cloth before we cut into them, just in case. We do get nervous that someone will break in, but that hasn't happened yet." For owners of small businesses, trapped between the demands of millions of ravenous fans and those of a large corporation protecting a major asset, the experience can be disconcerting. "I can't even tell you where the books will be!" says Liz Murphy, owner of the Learnéd Owl Book Shop in Hudson, Ohio. "We had to sign our life away."

It's all in the service of that magic moment, when readers turn the first page of what Rowling swears will be the last Harry Potter novel ever published. When Scholastic executives start in on the experience of reading J.K. Rowling, there's pretty much no limit to how elevated the rhetoric can get. "Each of us can picture that midnight moment that we've all been talking about," says Levine. "We all love to be at those parties. All of us are doing it for that intense moment when we see the realization of our whole lives right in front of us!"

If the goal of Scholastic's strenuous secrecy campaign is to turn the release of Deathly Hallows into an event comparable to the premiere of a movie or the series finale of a beloved TV show, then by all means, mischief managed. There's certainly more than a whiff of "Who shot J.R.?" in the air, and a satisfying sense that the written word is for once getting the hype usually accorded only to hipper and newer-fangled media. "The kids are very excited," says Harper. "The adults are just as excited. If they're toward the counter when the boxes are sliced into, you might hear a sort of screaming or some oohs and ahs and breaths being taken in."

But with all that emphasis on the magic moment, there is the risk that people will forget why books are, in fact, books and not movies or TV shows. They're not about midnight parties or hype or even moments, however magical. Reading is, after all, the most solitary and contemplative and long-lasting of all aesthetic pleasures. "We'd just like to sell it like other books," Harper admits, a little wearily. "Just get it in and sell it. It can be kind of a circus." If Harry were real, he would find all the fuss intensely embarrassing. After all, if all readers cared about was the outcomes, then why would they turn out in such numbers to see the movie versions of the books, the fifth of which (Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix) hits cinemas 10 days before the seventh book is published.

Ironically, the Harry Potter brain trust could be guilty of underestimating the power of the books it's trying so energetically to sell. The magic-moment strategy promotes a myth about Rowling's work—and reading in general—which is that the pleasure of a book is a fragile enchantment that's easily dispelled. On June 18 a hacker calling himself "Gabriel" announced on a website that he had done exactly what the Harry Potter brain trust most feared: stolen the text of Deathly Hallows. Explaining that he had gained access to a Bloomsbury employee's computer using an e-mail-borne Trojan-horse program, he posted what he claimed were key plot points from the book (which won't be repeated here). He framed his actions as a Christian counterattack against a work that promoted the "Neo-Paganism faith." Quoth Gabriel: "We make this spoiler to make reading of the upcoming book useless and boring."

The spoilers are almost certainly fake. Gabriel didn't offer a shred of evidence supporting their authenticity, and anyway, boasting about things that you haven't actually done is pretty much what hacker culture is all about. But even if the spoilers were genuine, it wouldn't matter.

On this point, both hacker and publisher share a key misunderstanding of what reading is all about. People read books for any number of reasons; finding out how the story ends is one among many and not even the most important. If it were otherwise, nobody would ever bother to read a book twice. Reading is about spending time with characters and entering a fictional world and playing with words and living through a story page by page. The idea that someone could ruin a novel by revealing its ending is like saying you could ruin the Mona Lisa by revealing that it's a picture of a woman with a center part. Spoilers are a myth: they don't spoil. No elaborate secrecy campaign is going to make Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows any better than it already is, and no website could possibly make it useless and boring.

—with reporting by Kristina Dell and Laura Fitzpatrick

http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1637886_1637891_1637864,00.html
 
I thought the film was a pretty good adaptation. Like other people have said, with a book that long you have to cut a lot of stuff out, otherwise you end up with a six-hour long film.

There was only one cut that annoyed me a little, because it's a fairly major piece of foreshadowing that ties in to the end of HBP and (PRESUMABLY) Deathly Hallows: Where was Regulus Black?
 
Damn!!! People flipping out over Harry Potter?! I would love to read the end without reading the book. Not everyone is a hater. Though I was hoping Harry would drop dead.
 
Went to see it a couple of days ago and thought it was good. Daniel has improved on his acting and I felt that Umbridge and Luna were fab as newcomers. Umbridge really stole the show. Bit disappointed Helena Bonham Carter didn't get much screen time because she was just..wow, so good. Not gonna mention the differences to the book because there were loads but it was the best adaption since CoS.
 
i've not seen the movie yet nor read the leaked book. so i'm still patiently waiting.

as for you folks who seem to think using spoilers is rude...well that's really just stupid. the whole point of having spoiler tags now is so people can use them without "spoiling" something for others. :rolleyes:#-o
 
About the movie, I really did like the darkness and foreboding nature of it. But, damn, Order of the Phoenix was one of the best books in the series. I don't think it was possible to make a movie near as good.

Now, I did think Imelda Staunton as Prof. Umbridge was interesting and dramatic and all, but the character in the book was soooooo entirely much more villainous. I remember totally hating her character every time she said or did anything. The movie didn't really capture that.

To be honest, that may be why I didn't like it as much. I just thought the spirit of that character had to change due to the time limits and editing. Heck, whole chapters were skipped over in the montages of Filch punding up her rules.

Now here's a plus; I loved the political implications and sim ilarities regarding America. (Sorry, I'm a lifelong liberal. I just had to get that in.)
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Heck, whole chapters were skipped over in the montages of Filch punding up her rules. ..|

I too felt an inordinate amount of time was spent on useless scenes such as Filch hanging the decrees and Filch waiting outside the Room of Requirement. In my mind they could have left out 80% or more of the Filch crap and had time to add stuff I feel was too relevant to the plot to be left out. Another point of contention with the movie were the utterly abrupt transitions betweens rather long stretches of time. It got to the mont where every time they showed an exterior view of Higwarts I thought to myself "Ok, jumping a few weeks now".](*,)

(Not to mention that they added about 90 purely superfluous Educational Decrees, wtf:confused:)
 
About the movie, I really did like the darkness and foreboding nature of it. But, damn, Order of the Phoenix was one of the best books in the series. I don't think it was possible to make a movie near as good.

Now, I did think Imelda Staunton as Prof. Umbridge was interesting and dramatic and all, but the character in the book was soooooo entirely much more villainous. I remember totally hating her character every time she said or did anything. The movie didn't really capture that.

To be honest, that may be why I didn't like it as much. I just thought the spirit of that character had to change due to the time limits and editing. Heck, whole chapters were skipped over in the montages of Filch punding up her rules.

Now here's a plus; I loved the political implications and sim ilarities regarding America. (Sorry, I'm a lifelong liberal. I just had to get that in.)
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you know, i thought there wouldnt be a america bashin post in this thread. of all places. and there are no similarities at all.
 
I really enjoyed this film, probably the best of the series so far. As much as I thought, "Hey, they left this part out", I thought the plot held together really well and moved along quickly. Umbridge was brilliant.
 
I watched monday with a friend, like any potter movie, was just good to see the characters in flesh, out of that the plot has the same problems from the previous one.

Anyway, they made like the Perfect choice for Umbridged, 2 seconds after she appeared in the screen and I already wanted to shot her in the face because of that giggle xD
 
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