Has any other astrologer looked at Trump's astrological chart lately?

[mcbrion]

I remember you said it.

If it is true - I don't think he has the good health to combat it - he has never seemed physically "well" in general and since he is a master of deception and hiding "stuff" and his "doctor" does not seem credible to me - I can't imagine the disease being kind to his body.

Oh, it's not. This is payback time. He's getting hit by the BIG Four: Saturn (karma), Uranus (Chaos/Sudden, Lighning-swift changes), Neptune (Delusions, Illusions) and ugh...Pluto: Death and Transformation. And The Pluto transits are feared, even by astrologers, because we know the death is quite frequently literal. Kennedy was assasainated when Pluto was passing thru Virgo (1956-1971) and made a square (BAD!) to his sun sign of Gemini. Monroe, the same. Martin Luther King, The same. Princess Diana was having Pluto attacking natal Mars (bloodshed, violent death) and Pluto was transiting (it had moved, thru the years into the 12th house (The Final House of Life. Therefore: Death) and was attacking the "home" where Mars was when she was born (9th house: the house of foreign countries, other cultures, enlightenment, religion, travel of further than 500 miles). Translation: Death while in another country by violent means. (I will never understand why her astrologer didn't tell her not to leave England for a year or two. She might actually have survived).
Trump - like everyone else was given the opportunity to rise above the tendency to be ruthless and control everything in sight (A Pluto transit impels a person towards trying to control everything/everyone around him. That road very, VERY frequently leads to Death. Even when a person is justifying it to themselves. For Kennedy, it was likely the Bay of Pigs fiasco. And The Universe said, "NO. YOU LOSE. VERY bad timing" And a year later....BANG!! (no pun intended).
Like I always say: Read Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 and then you'll know how astrology works. It is simply a system that defines events in time, although there's more to it than that. Your character is your Destiny, a philosophy echoed by philosophers Eons ago.

 

[mcbrion]

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^ Astrology is all very confusing to me as well as it is interesting. I don't suppose you have any insights about Joe Biden do you?

Such as what? He's got three planets in Scorpio. Oh nevermind. Here's his chart: Sorry, posted it twice. What's your question?

 

[mcbrion]

Re: Trump and first lady Melania test positive for coronavirus

Most of Biden's planets are above the horizon. That means more objective approach to life. When most of the planets are below the horizon, the individual is more subjective in their viewpoints. All the way to the left is the starting point of the chart: the "risign sign." This is how you APPEAR to others, even though once they actually meet you, your sun sign shows itself more prominently. So you could have Pisces rising and appear meek, but your sun sign is Aries and once someone meets you, you come across much more forcefully, because now your Ego is showing itself.
His Sun sign is in the 12th house: he wants to help others. Sometimes too much (I have this placement myself). BUT, it is a karmic lifetime. The key phrase is "SERVE or SUFFER." In other words, serve others and put your ego in the backseat or suffer. Jesus might have had a similar placement, but I'm not goin there!!! LOL. The 12th house is The House of The Martyred Soul. And he's got 3 planets in it, aka "A Stellium", a focal point of energy. I have even more planets in that house than him. Fortunately, the 12th house is the Pisces house (Pisces is the 12th sign and is the "Martyr" sign) is friendly to Scorpio and Cancer (we are Pisces' best friends, so having our energy in Pisces' house is not a stretch. An Aries with a 12th house sign would find this difficult, because Aries wants to lead and conquer and this house says, "Nope. Sublimate yourself, already." Hard for Aries to do).

 

[mcbrion]

Re: Trump and first lady Melania test positive for coronavirus

Not sure why people are interpreting "thoughts and prayers" as positive wishes. Lots of people pray for the president to go to hell, and they certainly send their thoughts to that effect to social media forums the world over.

As for the astrology, I still don't understand. If the events in individual's lives can be forecast, prophesied, predicted, due to the principle of cause and effect, then the planet and the location should matter if that is the basis of the prediction.

The reader sees what looks like the equal of "on Tuesday, there will be a full eclipse, and the imposition of the moon before the sun portends doom to X." Then Tuesday comes and goes, and no doom to X. Two months later, X slips and falls, so how was the eclipse relevant?

I'm not disparaging astrology, but I do say it must stand on what it alleges, else it's just a lot of self-fulfilling retro-interpretation of what DID happen instead of what must.

And you would actually have to know something about it. Talking to someone about a cosmic system is like showing them the Russian alphabet and saying, "Now. Make words for me." It's rather predictable (although not infallible) once you know it well. If Pluto squares your sun, you are in for Life-and-Death experiences for 4 years. NO maybes about it. LIFE intends for you to grow (think of a butterfly and the stages it goes through) and you'd better come through enough for LIFE to decide you've grown enough. Or you'll just be taken off the board. Literally.
And of course, placements matter(houses of life stand for different elements of the psyche: values, conscious thought, ego, creativity, service to others). Why do you think astrologers insist you have your birthchart available? If you said you were born at 3 pm, (Loki hour! In Chinese astrology, they refer to the hours between 3-5 pm as "Monkey hour" (the monkey being the trickster, aka in Norse mythology as "Loki.")) and you were born at 2 pm, that's like trying to drop a bomb on New York, and instead you hit Trenton. Wrong "coordinates." It works quite well.

You want to challenge astrology? That's fair. PM me and give me your birthdata - and make sure it's correct to the MINUTE. Don't say "oh, around 3 pm." Not even looking at it if you do that. Find your birth certificate (the long one), if you want to find out how accurate it is. Just be ready for what I tell you.I've got a good idea of some of your energies already, so I don't think I'll be surprised if you decide to follow through.

 

[cabinfever]

Re: Trump and first lady Melania test positive for coronavirus

And you would actually have to know something about it. Talking to someone about a cosmic system is like showing them the Russian alphabet and saying, "Now. Make words for me." It's rather predictable (although not infallible) once you know it well. If Pluto squares your sun, you are in for Life-and-Death experiences for 4 years. NO maybes about it. LIFE intends for you to grow (think of a butterfly and the stages it goes through) and you'd better come through enough for LIFE to decide you've grown enough. Or you'll just be taken off the board. Literally.
And of course, placements matter(houses of life stand for different elements of the psyche: values, conscious thought, ego, creativity, service to others). Why do you think astrologers insist you have your birthchart available? If you said you were born at 3 pm, (Loki hour! In Chinese astrology, they refer to the hours between 3-5 pm as "Monkey hour" (the monkey being the trickster, aka in Norse mythology as "Loki.")) and you were born at 2 pm, that's like trying to drop a bomb on New York, and instead you hit Trenton. Wrong "coordinates." It works quite well.

You want to challenge astrology? That's fair. PM me and give me your birthdata - and make sure it's correct to the MINUTE. Don't say "oh, around 3 pm." Not even looking at it if you do that. Find your birth certificate (the long one), if you want to find out how accurate it is. Just be ready for what I tell you.I've got a good idea of some of your energies already, so I don't think I'll be surprised if you decide to follow through.

The professional astrologer who did my chart years ago - one amazing man. He was a humble intellect and very scientific minded - also could dismantle and rebuild a computer and most any electronic item. He listened to mostly opera music. I had no expectations really - I liked him alot as a person and friend so I wanted him to do it when he offered. When he gave me the reading and it was intense - stuff he wouldn't have known because I don't discuss it with anyone was there and extremely accurate. I was thinking maybe he was psychic or something like that but he thoroughly explained the planets and transitions much the way you do it. I believe in Astrology when it comes from an experienced Astrologer since then

 

[Kyanimal]

Several decades ago, I shared an apartment with a known friend for a year. She was into all kinds of fascinating things. She already had two master degrees, but was taking undergrad pre-med courses on a quest to get her doctorate in holistic medicine. (What actually become of that is a long amazing story on it's own.)

She was more than an amateur astrologer, but I don't think up to your level, mcbrion, bud. She did do my chart, and I might, might, still have it somewhere. That was so long ago that I don't remember what she came up with. I'm going to have to do some digging, pretending to be looking for something else, in order to find it.

Yes! All of us are a speck of something far greater than any of us. We still don't know what we don't know. As for astrology, I think of the Moon's effect on tides, and remember we are 45-75% water ourselves, which fluctuates with age, muscle mass, etc. To think the heavenly bodies have no effect on us is like denying the earth is round.