Have you ever hated both Presidential Candidates to the point where you just refuse to vote????

[frankfrank]

Nevertheless, we are stuck with her and the idea of a [STRIKE]Trump[/STRIKE] PENCE presidency is so frightening, I will vote for Hillary and encourage others to do so as well..

Corrected for truth.

Trump has been hinting that he would deliberately become a CEO figurehead, and that his Vice President might pull all the strings.

Pence is a Dominionist (replacing the 19th Century word antidisestablishmentarianism), and under Trump AND PENCE, the United States will be under the finest Talibangelical Law that money can buy.

to answer your question--I feel your pain I really do. I'm voting Hillary for the Supreme court---it's been very conservative for 30 plus years---and it's time to make it a liberal court

Good, no I mean GREAT, to see there are some Americans who get it. I HAVE HEARD NO MENTION OF THE SUPREME COURT ANYWHERE IN MAINSTREAM MEDIA IN WEEKS. IT'S COMPLETELY BECOME A FORGOTTEN ISSUE, ENTIRELY WIPED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH, JUST AS I FEARED.

The composition of the Supreme Court, in the coming years, will be one of the most fateful things in the history of the world, because they might be making decisions that ultimately affect policy toward things such as global warming, and global corporate policies are often USA-driven.

 

[MystikWizard]

I'm 32, so I've voted in the 2004, 2008, and 2012 election.

Never before have I so despised both candidates that I refuse to vote. The system is broke, the Republicans have selected a man who I feel is mentally unstable. That is just a gut feeling, but I would never want a man with such a short fuse to have our nuclear launch codes.

And fuck Hillary. I feel like she is a character in Game of Thrones, married to a very powerful man who fucks whores behind her back. Bill's own whoring almost leads to his downfall, but he's a master spinner and manages to escape this scandal with his reputation intact. Yet despite the scandal she stays with Bill, to advance her own interests, to advance her own political game. I hate the way she has played the game, as I feel like she would have divorced Bill if he had been a loser and resigned the presidency. But no, Bill won the game, so she stuck with his bullshit because he was a winner in our version of Game of Thrones, thus that made her all the more valuable.

Granted I think she is qualified and able to rule our kingdom, but I despise a political dynasty, as that is why we broke away from England in the first place, we did not want a house ruling our kingdom for generations, decades, centuries on end.

Don't listen to those that attempt to label you a "misogynist" for not supporting Hillary Clinton. On the contrary, that is the reason they are supporting her. Have you ever seen a Democratic candidate that has lied so much or changed (ahem ... "evolved" is the PR friendly term) on so many positions, been so friendly with the Banking Industry and taken so much from Corporate America, been as Pro War and content on nation building and colluded with the DNC to oust her opponents and has been given so many free passes as Hillary Clinton? And it is all because of her gender and because the Gay Community absolutely is enamored with Hillary because of her gender which they identify with.

Their major obstacle and deterrent to this false label of "misogyny" which is their attempt at shaming you into Hillary, is Jill Stein of the Green Party. That pretty much removes any legitimacy of their charges, to which then they move on to another tactic and attempt to shame you into Hillary because it may bring about Trump.

What is wrong in this country when you have voters who willingly and enthusiastically support corrupt politicians in the Primary, and then try to shift over in the General after they already gave us Hillary and say "she is the lesser of two evils".

Voters in this country should be ashamed of themselves in giving us the choices they did and those that did not vote in the Primaries bear even greater shame.

 

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the Gay Community absolutely is enamored with Hillary because of her gender which they identify with.

@MystikWizard

Please explain the above quoted statement.

 

[TX-Beau]

@MystikWizard

Please explain the above quoted statement.

Do you honestly need a clarification, he's just been pushing that meme forever.

 

[TX-Beau]

Don't listen to those that attempt to label you a "misogynist" for not supporting Hillary Clinton. On the contrary, that is the reason they are supporting her. Have you ever seen a Democratic candidate that has lied so much or changed (ahem ... "evolved" is the PR friendly term) on so many positions, been so friendly with the Banking Industry and taken so much from Corporate America, been as Pro War and content on nation building and colluded with the DNC to oust her opponents and has been given so many free passes as Hillary Clinton? And it is all because of her gender and because the Gay Community absolutely is enamored with Hillary because of her gender which they identify with.

Their major obstacle and deterrent to this false label of "misogyny" which is their attempt at shaming you into Hillary, is Jill Stein of the Green Party. That pretty much removes any legitimacy of their charges, to which then they move on to another tactic and attempt to shame you into Hillary because it may bring about Trump.

What is wrong in this country when you have voters who willingly and enthusiastically support corrupt politicians in the Primary, and then try to shift over in the General after they already gave us Hillary and say "she is the lesser of two evils".

Voters in this country should be ashamed of themselves in giving us the choices they did and those that did not vote in the Primaries bear even greater shame.

Hillary is not the lesser of two evils, since ya know, she's not evil. You land yourself charges of misogyny because you repeatedly say the only reason we all will vote for her is her twat, despite months and pages of posts from people telling you that isn't the case.

So one more time for the old college try.

YOU ARE THE ONE OBSESSED WITH TWAT!

WE SUPPORT HER BECAUSE SHE'S THE MOST QUALIFIED PERSON!!

I simply can't be clearer than that.

 

[MystikWizard]

@MystikWizard

Please explain the above quoted statement.

Gay men are largely fascinated by strong women. They largely identify more with women due to experiences we all went through in our lives. Whether it be from being intimidated or bullied by straight men growing up, or having a female BFF where they can confess all their secret crushes and talk about guys who they find attractive, etc.

And I strongly feel that this support is more about gender identity than it is about selecting the most honest and trustworthy candidate, which I think is abysmal and an outright embarrassment to this country when we are treating the Presidency of the United States like an American Idol Competition.

However, to support my thoughts, I am going to quote a series of commentaries or blog questions about Gay Men and their fascination with Hillary so folks on here can clearly see it is not just me that sees this:

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...-and-how-trump-is-making-a-play-to-poach-them

http://www.thewrap.com/hillary-clinton-gay-men-support/

https://www.thenation.com/article/gay-men-feel-hillary-clintons-pain-but-does-she-feel-ours/

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-obsession-with-hillary-clinton-a6853406.html

https://www.datalounge.com/thread/6...men-identify-personally-with-hillary-clinton-

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-many-gay-people-seem-to-Love-Hillary-Clinton

 

[TX-Beau]

Gay men are largely fascinated by strong women. They largely identify more with women due to experiences we all went through in our lives. Whether it be from being intimidated or bullied by straight men growing up, or having a female BFF where they can confess all their secret crushes and talk about guys who they find attractive, etc.

And I strongly feel that this support is more about gender identity than it is about selecting the most honest and trustworthy candidate, which I think is abysmal and an outright embarrassment to this country when we are treating the Presidency of the United States like an American Idol Competition.

However, to support my thoughts, I am going to quote a series of commentaries or blog questions about Gay Men and their fascination with Hillary so folks on here can clearly see it is not just me that sees this:

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...-and-how-trump-is-making-a-play-to-poach-them

http://www.thewrap.com/hillary-clinton-gay-men-support/

https://www.thenation.com/article/gay-men-feel-hillary-clintons-pain-but-does-she-feel-ours/

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-obsession-with-hillary-clinton-a6853406.html

https://www.datalounge.com/thread/6...men-identify-personally-with-hillary-clinton-

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-many-gay-people-seem-to-Love-Hillary-Clinton

I haven't heard one person in here say they are voting for her cooter, nor have I ever heard one gay man say that either.

 

[MystikWizard]

I haven't heard one person in here say they are voting for her cooter, nor have I ever heard one gay man say that either.

And nor will you because internally people know it is wrong so won't admit it. No different than the racism from the Right, which they don't admit, but you know it is the reason why they hate Obama.

Glad to see you went through all those articles that quickly and read them all since I posted them. Please feel free to dispute every one of them, but there are a whole lot more out there. So sorry, but it is not just me that sees this.

 

[TX-Beau]

And nor will you because internally people know it is wrong so won't admit it. No different than the racism from the Right, which they don't admit, but you know it is the reason why they hate Obama.

Glad to see you went through all those articles that quickly and read them all since I posted them. Please feel free to dispute every one of them, but there are a whole lot more out there. So sorry, but it is not just me that sees this.

So, you KNOW what people are thinking, even when they are telling you that you're in fucking left field?

Tell me, do you see dead people?

 

[MystikWizard]

So, you KNOW what people are thinking, even when they are telling you that you're in fucking left field?

Tell me, do you see dead people?

Anyone with a brain can form a hypothesis based on the facts and draw intelligent conclusions.

Do you feel that just because Republicans claim they don't hate Obama because "they are racist", yet you see them with Confederate flags, etc., does this mean they aren't really opposed to him because they are racist?

It's called cutting through the Bullshit. You seem really passionate about denying these charges, making sure to respond to all of my posts, and are always the first to cite "misogyny" on here to any poster opposed to Hillary so me thinks where there is smoke, there is fire.

 

[TX-Beau]

Anyone with a brain can form a hypothesis based on the facts and draw intelligent conclusions.

Do you feel that just because Republicans claim they don't hate Obama because "they are racist", yet you see them with Confederate flags, etc., does this mean they aren't really opposed to him because they are racist?

It's called cutting through the Bullshit. You seem really passionate about denying these charges, making sure to respond to all of my posts, and are always the first to cite "misogyny" on here to any poster opposed to Hillary so me thinks where there is smoke, there is fire.

Blah blah blah, you're telling us you can read minds, that you KNOW what I'm thinking.

CLEO! Is that YOU Miss Cleo?

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...It's called the psychic hotline...

 

[opinterph]

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...-and-how-trump-is-making-a-play-to-poach-them

I have visited your first link.

Can Trump Make A Play For Hillary’s Gays? (U.S. News & World Report; David Catanese)

By working his network and attempting to expand it, Barron [a veteran of gay conservative political organizing through GOProud] says he wants to highlight Trump's sterling business record on behalf of gays and lesbians, in which he's provided nondomestic partner benefits and protections as an employer. "He's put his money where his mouth is," says Barron, who will seek to convince LGBT voters to focus on security and portray Trump as a non-threat to their existing rights.

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[MystikWizard]

I have visited your first link.

Great, but you don't see me ushering people to vote for Trump. Although, I will concur with him in that Trump is not going to try and touch Gay Rights, but nevertheless I don't support him.

Please feel free to go through the rest.

 

[opinterph]

Trump is not going to try and touch Gay Rights

Please feel free to go through the rest.

Of the remaining six links, which one is most likely to support your first statement above?

 

[MystikWizard]

Of the remaining six links, which one is most likely to support your first statement above?

Those links were not quoted to talk about Donald Trump, but rather to provide supporting links after I answered your original question about where I was getting the concept that the "Gay Community absolutely is enamored with Hillary because of her gender which they identify with". So because those were the topics of those articles, I doubt you are going to see content discussing Donald Trump and Gay Rights in them.

 

[Rolyo85]

I don't identify with females. I don't even have many female friends. Your point is invalid

 

[MystikWizard]

I don't identify with females. I don't even have many female friends. Your point is invalid

Oh, because it doesn't apply to you, it is "invalid"? LOL. Well, case closed I guess.

Again, just like the racism on the Right not being admitted to, the same thing applies to many on here who won't admit to why they are voting for Hillary.

It is not invalid if so many other people see the same thing I see.

 

[TX-Beau]

Miss Cleo has SPOKEN! She KNOWS Rolyo...

You won't admit it, but you can't fool the supernatural!!

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[opinterph]

Those links were not quoted to talk about Donald Trump

The question becomes important in light of the “conversion” concept set forth in the US News article.

 

[Rolyo85]

Oh, because it doesn't apply to you, it is "invalid"? LOL. Well, case closed I guess. Again, just like the racism on the Right not being admitted to, the same thing applies to many on here who won't admit to why they are voting for Hillary. It is not invalid if so many other people see the same thing I see.

If your logic that "some" gays voting for her because of her vagina means all gays do is valid, then my logic that because I don't, nobody else does, is also valid ^_^