Have you ever wondered why the teabaggers weren't treated like OWS people?

[Kulindahr]

The news media, and most of our government is owned and controlled by Corporate America. The tea party was protesting to keep the Bush tax cuts, and cut these taxes even further. Corporate America loved that sh*t, so they had free reign to carry concealed weapons, make vague threats against the president and even spit on congressmen on the capitol steps.

Corporate support isn't going to give anyone "free reign to carry concealed weapons". Cops everywhere take the concealed weapons laws very seriously, and no corporation is going to be able to get them to overlook violations.

 

[frankfrank]

AMBROCIOUS:If most people, on both sides of the fence (tea party and OWS) defeated this tyranny by being able to humble themselves for just a few weeks, a great deal of things could be accomplished and maybe people would even realize just how connected we were once we drop our political prejudices towards each other as well.

This is pie in the sky. People have a right to their view points and not sacrifice who they are simply because of some pie in the sky "harmony" world view.

I feel you misunderstand human nature. People will never be united...There can be no harmony or understanding

Unfortunately entirely true. Though I agree entirely with Ambrocious, and agree that vast majority of Teabaggers would be best served by the type of realignment that OWS hopes for, they'll never ADMIT it. Just think...it's not even possible to get all Democrats together. Organizing the grass roots, unless it's done via hot-button propaganda (such as gay marriage, and that "Kenyan Muslim jihadist Obama", uniting the TP), is about as effective as trying to herd and organize cats.

I believe we need to roll back all the Bush tax cuts, which only benefited the poor.

C'est WHAT??

 

[MVincent]

To my knowledge, the Tea Party has never "occupied" public spaces for longer than their various permits allowed. They don't tend to employ civil disobedience to the same extent, and therefore are rarely in the same power-dynamic with law enforcement as other protests like OWS...

 

[frankfrank]

To my knowledge, the Tea Party has never "occupied" public spaces for longer than their various permits allowed. They don't tend to employ civil disobedience to the same extent, and therefore are rarely in the same power-dynamic with law enforcement as other protests like OWS...

The Tea Party people really don't have much of a reason to "overstay their permit" because their allies have control of most of TV/Cable, and nearly all of Radio. All they need to do is to gather 80 people in Connecticut, 115 people in Spokane, and 46 people in central Texas, and they own the news cycle for weeks.

The 99%'ers own ALMOST NO BROADCASTING/CABLE OR PRINT MEDIA***, so their events have to be about one-thousand-fold the size of Tea Party events to get similar coverage. The only way to defeat those odds is for OWS to become violent and dangerous...which is not a part of their mission statement, so by and large they're only being noticed because their events include hundreds of thousands of people.

***The 99%'ers do "own" a lot of Internet space (via their websites), though - the Internet is the only medium where the playing field isn't warped all out of proportion in favor of the "haves." However those who want to destroy Internet neutrality, and who want to become "gatekeepers of content" (thus giving their "preferred" content providers free or most-favored pricing and bandwidth, and sticking the content they "don't like" in the middle of the mountains far from the Information Superhighway), would make sure that the Internet also becomes the province of the rich and powerful.

Oh...and welcome in here MVincent. I don't know your politics because you don't have a posting history yet, but I'm always glad to see new voices and such.

 

[CoolBlue71]

Why weren't the teabaggers weren't treated as badly as the OWS protesters? I have never seen a teabagger with a cracked skull or getting mace sprayed at their faces. Nor have I seen a coordinated effort to stop the .teabaggers from assembling in public spaces.

It proves that the "Mainstream Media" is not liberal. There are shared interests with the most powerful factions, the Washington, D.C. political establishment, the beltway pundits, the television-news sources (broadcast, cable). It makes sense that "opinion news" outlets treated "Tea Party" protestors with concern while the Occupy movement was derided.

 

[Jack Springer]

^^^

A couple of you guys evidently don't watch the news.

The Tea Party was made fun of by the MSM. MSNBC was a major force is trying to discredit them.

The reason the police did not have to interfere with Tea Party rallies is because they were orderly, clean, and didn't interfere with the rights of others.

No rapes, no public defecation, no lice, no illegal camping or tents,or illegal occupation of public spaces at Tea Party events ... that's why the police did not have to interact.

 

[Kulindahr]

The 99%'ers own ALMOST NO BROADCASTING/CABLE OR PRINT MEDIA***, so their events have to be about one-thousand-fold the size of Tea Party events to get similar coverage. The only way to defeat those odds is for OWS to become violent and dangerous...which is not a part of their mission statement, so by and large they're only being noticed because their events include hundreds of thousands of people.

I think that should be "hundreds OR thousands".

 

[chance1]

To my knowledge, the Tea Party has never "occupied" public spaces for longer than their various permits allowed. They don't tend to employ civil disobedience to the same extent, and therefore are rarely in the same power-dynamic with law enforcement as other protests like OWS...

simple yet eloquent

and accurate

so rare on JUB

 

[chance1]

The Tea Party people really don't have much of a reason to "overstay their permit" because their allies have control of most of TV/Cable, and nearly all of Radio. All they need to do is to gather 80 people in Connecticut, 115 people in Spokane, and 46 people in central Texas, and they own the news cycle for weeks.

not sure what cable system u have frankfrank

diff than mine for sure

on mine for NEWS I have

MSNBC - which is 24/7 Obama boot licking - they mock The Tea Party and embrace OWS

CNN - which has tried very hard to appear neutral but recently spent more time on Herman Cain's sexual harrassment "charges" in a week's time then they spent on Candidate Obama's array of oddly anti American, anti Semitic "friends" in the entire genl election season

CBS - left leaning
NBC - see MSNBC
ABC - see CBS

then there's Fox News

that's what I have on my cable system

you've just described the OPPOSITE of my cable system

how much do you pay monthly for yours?

 

[frankfrank]

^^^
The Tea Party was made fun of by the MSM. MSNBC was a major force is trying to discredit them.

pssst...notice he had to mention MSNBC because he couldn't come up with the other nonexistent or occasional examples...

I think that should be "hundreds OR thousands".

Thanks for catching that, in regard to individual events. Though in the aggregate it is hundreds of thousands, and now I can't remember which mindset I had when I made the post, so either I was correct (in the aggregate) or I made a typo, lol.

That doesn't even approach my most "notorious" and hated typo, which happens sometimes, when a typo makes the wrong choice between NOW and NOT. For example, wanting to say that "I am now going to go and meet you" and it comes out "I am NOT going to go and meet you."

 

[Jack Springer]

pssst...notice he had to mention MSNBC because he couldn't come up with the other nonexistent or occasional examples...

Evidently you have selective memory regarding the Tea Party. There were very few positive news broadcasts or articles about them at the time they were having rallies.

They are still accused of being racist -- with no proof.


you'd better get that "pssst" leak fixed before you have major problems

 

[CowboyBob]

Evidently you have selective memory regarding the Tea Party. There were very few positive news broadcasts or articles about them at the time they were having rallies.

They are still accused of being racist -- with no proof.


you'd better get that "pssst" leak fixed before you have major problems

Fox Propaganda and the right wing extremists praised everything the tea baggers did.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAF5OR1uUaY[/ame]

That's because they bankrolled it through the Koch brothers and encouraged violence.

 

[frankfrank]

Fox Propaganda and the right wing extremists praised everything the tea baggers did.

And so did about 99% of all talk radio...a medium which delivers a far, far more massive audience than Fox News could ever dream of.

 

[Jack Springer]

^^^^

Quiet. Is that a black helicopter you hear.

 

[andysayshi]

When Barney Frank announced his intention to retire last week, the official Facebook and Twitter response from the Tennessee Tea Party was:

Good riddance you perverted sodomite POS!

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...ers-homosexuals-with-tweet-about-barney-frank

 

[andysayshi]

^^^^

Quiet. Is that a black helicopter you hear.

Fox News helped create the Tea Party. In fact, they were responsible for the name. They initially referred to them as the "FNC (Fox News Corp) Tax Day Tea Parties".

Fox anchors regularly supported and promoted Tea Party rallies:

While discussing the April 15 protests on his April 6 program, Glenn Beck suggested that viewers could "celebrate with Fox News" by either attending a protest or watching it on Fox News. Beck stated that in addition to himself, hosts Neil Cavuto, Greta Van Susteren, and Sean Hannity would be "live" at different protests. While Beck spoke, on-screen text labeled those protests as "FNC Tax Day Tea Parties."

TaxDayTeaParty.com lists Fox News contributors Michelle Malkin and Tammy Bruce as "Tea Party Sponsors." The sponsors section also lists American Solutions for Winning the Future, whose general chairman is Fox News contributor Newt Gingrich. Gingrich filmed a video "invitation" to attend the April 15 protests. According to TaxDayTeaParty.com, "Gingrich will be a featured speaker" at the April 15 protest in New York City. Tea-party organizers have used the planned attendance of the Fox News hosts to promote their protests.

This is a direct quote from America's Newsroom Host Bill Hemmer:

If you want to know more about the tea-party movement, if there is one happening near you, head to our website FoxNews.com/americasnewsroom. We have an entire section devoted to the growing tea-party movement. That's our America's Newsroom website online. All the information you need to know. Check it out right now.

The Fox News website provided an ongoing list of Tea Party protest schedules, organisers, contact details and more.

There's pages more bias demonstrated here:

http://mediamatters.org/reports/200904080025

Here's footage of a Fox producer breaking the cardinal rule of journalism. She's whipping up protester reactions while they do a live cross:




Fox News dedicates hours and hours of coverage to every Tea Party event, even when protest numbers are low. Comparatively, when 75,000 people marched in Washington to support Gay Rights, Fox didn't even send a camera.

http://vodpod.com/watch/2336393-the...fox-news-ignores-the-gay-rights-march-in-d-c-

 

[Gatorguy]

The Tea Party people really don't have much of a reason to "overstay their permit" because their allies have control of most of TV/Cable, and nearly all of Radio. All they need to do is to gather 80 people in Connecticut, 115 people in Spokane, and 46 people in central Texas, and they own the news cycle for weeks.

The 99%'ers own ALMOST NO BROADCASTING/CABLE OR PRINT MEDIA***, so their events have to be about one-thousand-fold the size of Tea Party events to get similar coverage. The only way to defeat those odds is for OWS to become violent and dangerous...which is not a part of their mission statement, so by and large they're only being noticed because their events include hundreds of thousands of people.

***The 99%'ers do "own" a lot of Internet space (via their websites), though - the Internet is the only medium where the playing field isn't warped all out of proportion in favor of the "haves." However those who want to destroy Internet neutrality, and who want to become "gatekeepers of content" (thus giving their "preferred" content providers free or most-favored pricing and bandwidth, and sticking the content they "don't like" in the middle of the mountains far from the Information Superhighway), would make sure that the Internet also becomes the province of the rich and powerful.

Oh...and welcome in here MVincent. I don't know your politics because you don't have a posting history yet, but I'm always glad to see new voices and such.

Wow Frank, I have such a different perspective. In my state and in the national news I saw, the media's reaction to the Tea Party was swift and without mercy.

They started with the "Tea Bagger" name quickly - to this day, after all these months, they haven't dared refer to OWS with a derogatory name.

They went out of their way to portray the Tea Party as gun-carrying extremists, a danger to the safety of every American vs. poor OWS kids just trying to protest on campus.

They went and interviewed the police trying to show their side of the story and how they felt in mortal danger trying to keep the Tea Party crowd under control.

They put every person who might be on the Tea Party fringe as the center of each story.

In summary, the media saw the Tea Party as a threat to the president they elected, the one that they blindly supported without question, the one that they fought long and hard for, and they went after the Tea Party with a vengeance.

Down here, the Tea Party was treated just like Hillary Clinton was by the media; calling she and her husband racists just because they were perceived to be a threat to the Media's plans to drive the masses to elect President Obama.

I happen to believe that both groups are good for America and support many of their positions, but there is no question that the Media has hit the Tea Party with a hundred times the force that they have Occupy Wall Street.

Time is a funny thing...it fades memories.

 

[Joshua_me]

Were the tea partiers "occupying" anywhere?

Certainly not libraries or any places of higher learning.