Having a fake girlfriend

[yuty]

To his credit, he said he considered meeting a lesbian with similar like-minded career aspirations and having her as his fake girlfriend and vice versa with him.

It sounds okay to me...however almost every lesbian I have ever met as been butt-ugly and blatantly played the stereotypical butch lesbian down to the steel-toe boots...

I suppose I would have to find a straight fake girlfriend. Most politicians and businessmen marry for career and wealth anyway.

Look at John Kerry. He certainly didn't marry that filthy rich broad for her looks and personality...

 

[Brijan]

To his credit, he said he considered meeting a lesbian with similar like-minded career aspirations and having her as his fake girlfriend and vice versa with him.

"To his credit"?
So, it is okay because now both parties are lying and devaluing themselves?

Agreeing to do wrong in a group doesn't make it right.
(Although it goes help one absolve oneself of responsibility.)

 

[yuty]

Oh, they're most certainly lying to others and devaluing themselves of any sort of diginity.

But it is what it is. It's extremely common throughout the world. It's not ethically moral but I don't subscribe to any as it is anyway.

I'd like to find a man who loves me as much as love him so we can live happily ever after...

But life's not a Disney movie.

 

[Brijan]

I'm not saying life is a Disney movie. (Actually, I hope life isn't a Disney movie, as that would suck for a myriad of other reasons.)

But if you don't stick up for you, who will?
You have to pick your battles. This seems like one of those battles one should choose to fight.

(I suppose the point is moot of you are willing to allow others to dominate you; indirectly of course.)

 

[JOHN B]

The more you lie, the more you will have to lie. If you pretend to be something you are not in order to be liked, and ARE liked because of it, then you will just have to KEEP lying. You will either grow to hate the person you have "become", or hate the person (the REAL you) that you WERE.

 

[yuty]

I'm not saying life is a Disney movie. (Actually, I hope life isn't a Disney movie, as that would suck for a myriad of other reasons.)

But if you don't stick up for you, who will?
You have to pick your battles. This seems like one of those battles one should choose to fight.

(I suppose the point is moot of you are willing to allow others to dominate you; indirectly of course.)

It's not about sticking up for me. I really don't care. My personality as right now is rather cold. As I stated before, I'm a econ major. My career as of right now ventures into large corporations where I will likely make a myriad of unethical choices.

For example, in the recent internship I had, I had to catalogue the names of 2,000 workers to be laid off. Rather than lay off the younger workers, I suggested we lay off both a combination of costly older workers who skillsets could easily be replaced with cheaper capital technology, in conjunction with younger workers who hadn't learned enough skill sets to begin with.

I'm also fully aware of my corporation sponsoring (the government gives us a blind eye) numerous sweat shops in Asia.

It's not right, it's downright horrible, but the world of capitalism has made me downright bitter to be honest.

As for love, I'm not looking for it and I won't allow it to happen to me. I have abandonment issues...

A beard is necessary. True, I would be using her but hopefully I can sate what little conscience I have by giving her a monetary allowance.

Of course, all this won't happen until I'm at least 30.

 

[Boogerqueesha]

Look up Barney Frank. Here, I'll do it for you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barney_Frank

An awesome guy. Brave enough to come out, wily enough to succeed in the political world, and ballsy enough to actually vote for what he believes is morally right.

Take a page from his book.

You don't have to hide. When you do, you hurt yourself, and you hurt everyone like you.

 

[yuty]

It's not about hiding. It's about appearances. In the world of business, etiquette has it's place.

I'm not ashamed of my homosexuality...however I know that being openly gay is an invitation to a glass ceiling. It's simply not as profitable to be openly gay in my chosen field of profession than it is to keep appearances.

It's simple marginal analysis. I can make more money to keep appearances.

 

[Brijan]

It's not about hiding. It's about appearances. In the world of business, etiquette has it's place.

I'm not ashamed of my homosexuality...however I know that being openly gay is an invitation to a glass ceiling. It's simply not as profitable to be openly gay in my chosen field of profession than it is to keep appearances.

It's simple marginal analysis. I can make more money to keep appearances.

I see where you are coming from.

The only point I would then raise it: more money doesn't (necessarily) equal more happiness.
Balance.

 

[yuty]

I see where you are coming from.

The only point I would then raise it: more money doesn't (necessarily) equal more happiness.
Balance.

Oh, I know.

Money won't buy me true happiness that I dream of.

But it will come close enough for a person like me.

 

[Boogerqueesha]

It's not about hiding. It's about appearances. In the world of business, etiquette has it's place.

I'm not ashamed of my homosexuality...however I know that being openly gay is an invitation to a glass ceiling. It's simply not as profitable to be openly gay in my chosen field of profession than it is to keep appearances.

It's simple marginal analysis. I can make more money to keep appearances.

The well-being of your people is not your concern, if you choose to ignore the reasons they are put down (and accept being put down yourself!). If money can make you happy, so be it! Let me be clear, though, that it is very, VERY possible to earn money while openly gay. Money isn't the real issue; it seems that you value your profession more than you value your people! Your choice, of course.

People only care about the parts of the world that they choose to see.

It's the reason the world is so backwards... but it's also what makes it go round!

 

[yuty]

The well-being of your people is not your concern, if you choose to ignore the reasons they are put down (and accept being put down yourself!). If money can make you happy, so be it! Let me be clear, though, that it is very, VERY possible to earn money while openly gay. Money isn't the real issue; it seems that you value your profession more than you value your people! Your choice, of course.

People only care about the parts of the world that they choose to see.

It's the reason the world is so backwards... but it's also what makes it go round!

"My people"? I don't really have a people....

Being gay to me isn't a lifestyle or a culture or a community. It's my wiring that determines what gender I'm likely to fuck.

It is possible to earn lots of money being openly gay...however it incurs too much risk and it is often more costly do so. It would be more logical to get appearances or simply keep quiet.

I don't like the fact that's the way things are...but that's the way it is. I'm a realist. Life isn't a movie where there's Gloria Stefan singing Reach Higher in the background as the impossible happens.

But you're right, it is what makes the world go round. You can either go with gravity or fight against it.

 

[Rockhard]

I have this acquaintance who has a lesbian dating partner when he needs a hetero date for a business function. The problem is, the guy is such a flamer that only the most dim-witted person would think he's straight. I mean, the guy sets off the ceiling fire sprinklers when he walks into the room.

Anyway, he thinks he's fooling the world when, in fact, he's playing the fool. Everyone laughs at him behind his back and wonders how dumb he thinks they are.

It's sort of sad, really. Most gay guys I know don't "pass" or "straight act" nearly as well as they think they do. People have a way of sensing and knowing. Then, the whole fake-trophy relationship is a big farce. In short, I wouldn't do it.

 

[Boogerqueesha]

"My people"? I don't really have a people....

Being gay to me isn't a lifestyle or a culture or a community. It's my wiring that determines what gender I'm likely to fuck.

It is possible to earn lots of money being openly gay...however it incurs too much risk and it is often more costly do so. It would be more logical to get appearances or simply keep quiet.

I don't like the fact that's the way things are...but that's the way it is. I'm a realist. Life isn't a movie where there's Gloria Stefan singing Reach Higher in the background as the impossible happens.

But you're right, it is what makes the world go round. You can either go with gravity or fight against it.

people - 4. the entire body of persons who constitute a community, tribe, nation, or other group by virtue of a common culture, history, religion, or the like: the people of Australia; the Jewish people.

The entire body of persons. Whether you like it or not, whether you FEEL it or not, you are. By definition. Gay. Part of the gay people.

An existence defined entirely by a logically determined quest for money, seems like a pretty bleak one, to me. To each, his own.

And yes. I can go with gravity, or fight against it. There are only two times that I have/will go(ne) with gravity.

1. I went with gravity when I was a baby, before I learned to crawl, and
2. My dead body will go with gravity, cause I won't be here to fight it.

Meanwhile, I will live. And fight. And, get rich, hahaha.

 

[Boogerqueesha]

exactly. it sucks, but its just how it is with what i do too.

You really really don't know 'less you try

 

[JackFTwist]

It's not about sticking up for me. I really don't care. My personality as right now is rather cold. As I stated before, I'm a econ major. My career as of right now ventures into large corporations where I will likely make a myriad of unethical choices.

For example, in the recent internship I had, I had to catalogue the names of 2,000 workers to be laid off. Rather than lay off the younger workers, I suggested we lay off both a combination of costly older workers who skillsets could easily be replaced with cheaper capital technology, in conjunction with younger workers who hadn't learned enough skill sets to begin with.

I'm also fully aware of my corporation sponsoring (the government gives us a blind eye) numerous sweat shops in Asia.

It's not right, it's downright horrible, but the world of capitalism has made me downright bitter to be honest.

As for love, I'm not looking for it and I won't allow it to happen to me. I have abandonment issues...

A beard is necessary. True, I would be using her but hopefully I can sate what little conscience I have by giving her a monetary allowance.

Of course, all this won't happen until I'm at least 30.

karma is going to get you and that will be so fucking funny

 

[yuty]

Meh. Karma got me a long, long time ago.

Besides if karma actually existed most major corporations would have had their assets liquidated and given to the poor by now.

 

[ok455]

I think the lesbian idea would be a good idea. Comming out is a slow hard process. But i would suggest moving to a diffrent town or state so your family friends wont nag u about seeing her all the time. Some of my straight female friends said they will help me if i need a fake girlfriend.

 

[Boogerqueesha]

its not whats important, its just whats expected, especially when you have your family to support.

It's expected, sure, but even more so, it's convenient. You COULD go on hiding without one, it's just a better disguise when you've got one. Usually.

I think they're an absolutely horrible disguise if the person you're trying to fool is gay. Single closeted guys are questionable, but closeted guys with a token girlfriend are usually paaaainfully obvious lol.

It's not too nice to the girl, though, and it should def. be a very temporary solution, for your own mental health, too.

 

[relaxin13]

Do what you want to do... if you feel that what you want in life can be attained easier through the screen of an improvised relationship, then go ahead. I have no right to tell you not to do this, even though I completely disagree with the idea.

I'd be willing to bet that you live in a less accepting area than I do, and this probably contributes to your view of the world. My personal opinion is that the kind of life you seem to be willing to live imposes a ceiling on the overall happiness in your life, and I feel that this is will lead to less satisfaction of living.

But who knows, maybe finding and loving a lifelong companion is not as important as the materials you surround yourself with.

If you do do this, I hope you make a ton of money early in your career so that you no longer care what others think.

Anyways, good luck.