HBO's Game of Thrones. ( No Book Spoilers Allowed -- Go to Hell.)

[palbert]

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Don't have HBO.

Active thread on in Atkol Group.

Active thread in Entertainment.

Come around the board sometime

 

[gsdx]

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I don't watch TV ... are the books worth reading?

I tried to read the first book twice and could only get about a quarter of the way into it. I didn't enjoy it one little bit. Few are the books I've read where, by the time I get to the end of a chapter, I don't remember the beginning of it.

 

[HoodedRat]

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^
That sounds like my experience of trying to read Lord of the Rings during the past 40+years. All the kids were into it when I was at school but, in spite of many attempts, I've never made it to the second chapter.

 

[HunterM]

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It's an active Entertainment thread under the title "A Song of Ice and Fire" (the book title).
Here's the link.

 

[Pianist]

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I slogged through the books to the end of the fourth one, A Feast For Crows and gave it up. Too much sword, not enough sorcery.

As to the television series, I only watched the first episode of season one.

 

[nycguydowntown]

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Have HBO --watch the show---think it is good--my only criticism is there seems to be lot's of gratuitous violence just for the shock value---even more then the other HBO masterwork, The Soprano's---BTW was just with my whole fairly large extended family for an early Easter get together---and the majority are obsessed with Game of Thrones.

 

[oakpope]

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I love Game of Thrones. Loved the books, love the series.

^ The violence is not gratuitous. Westeros is a very harsh and cruel world. It's not meant to be historical, it's not on Earth. It's their reality, and how they adjust to that is relevant. Far for gratuitous...

 

[nycguydowntown]

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^I know it's not earth and know what you are saying about cruel world---IMO--you can direct something so you get what is happening without getting up close on it---I say let's have more graphic sex! Now that would be groundbreaking in a TV drama.

 

[Spiff]

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If anything is evidence of the decline and fall of forums for discussion on JUB, it must be that Game of Thrones doesn't even appear to register on the current Entertainment board.

What are you talking about? The Entertainment board has had a thread for that show for a long time.

 

[umjreon88]

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I just love GoT! ANd yes, there is a thread for it already. Season 4 is just getting even more exciting!

 

[Disturbance]

Re: A song of ice and fire: HBO's Game of Thrones

Good. I much prefer new Daario to old Daario.

Agreed. The old Daario irritated me instantly. His face, his voice, his everything just made me disgusted. New Daario is much much better.

As for the second episode: It was amazing! I'm one of the few people who didn't hate Joffrey, but I have to admit, he was an asshole. He was kinda like Viserys 2.0 And I loved Viserys.

The poison though is not like in the books. In the books, the poison was in a hairnet, and now it was in the neklace that was given to Sansa. You can even see Olenna tyrell touching one of the gems, and in the next moment you can see that one of the stones on the right is missing.

I adore Cersei. I think Lena is the best actress on the series, and I hope to see spectacular acting as the story progresses and Cersei goes mad. She has already shown that she can do fits of rage, and vain displays of power quite damn well. I hope to see more of theese.

I kinda love Jaime. I am curious what he will become.

 

[Hellax24]

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Dude, why would you post all of that without a spoiler alert? People who have read the book are not posting what they know about it for a reason. It's not like there isn't a big ass message at the top of this thread and forum. There's always one.

CXXX

 

[Daximus]

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Game of Thrones is awesome!! Another good one that's just getting started is Black Sails. It's been renewed for a second season. Go watch it. Watch it now!!

 

[blackbeltninja]

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It only starts here on Friday night. We're 2 weeks behind.

-d-

 

[Agent Provocateur]

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Thank you for reminding me I have the first ASOIAF book on my tablet. Looks like I now have something to read!

 

[GreyUnderscore]

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Game of Thrones is awesome!! Another good one that's just getting started is Black Sails. It's been renewed for a second season. Go watch it. Watch it now!!

I can't wait for the second season of Black Sails. It was a bit slow in the beginning but then it picked up and right when it was really good the season ended. Got me hooked so mission accomplished.

 

[joesman]

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Agreed. The old Daario irritated me instantly. His face, his voice, his everything just made me disgusted. New Daario is much much better.

As for the second episode: It was amazing! I'm one of the few people who didn't hate Joffrey, but I have to admit, he was an asshole. He was kinda like Viserys 2.0 And I loved Viserys.

The poison though is not like in the books. In the books, the poison was in a hairnet, and now it was in the neklace that was given to Sansa. You can even see Olenna tyrell touching one of the gems, and in the next moment you can see that one of the stones on the right is missing.

I adore Cersei. I think Lena is the best actress on the series, and I hope to see spectacular acting as the story progresses and Cersei goes mad. She has already shown that she can do fits of rage, and vain displays of power quite damn well. I hope to see more of theese.

I kinda love Jaime. I am curious what he will become.

I think you are the only person to like Joffrey and Cersei. Jaime is now more palpatable than ealier on but still one of the people I despise---- and bro you did impart more info than you should have.

 

[Disturbance]

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I think you are the only person to like Joffrey and Cersei. Jaime is now more palpatable than ealier on but still one of the people I despise---- and bro you did impart more info than you should have.

I don't despise anyone... Not really.
I can understand most characters and their motivations. There really isn't good and bad side here.

Joffrey was a cruel, sadistic mothafuckhA, but that is because his "father" and his real father never gave two shits about him. He was raised by her mother to be a self-entitled prick, and he was. I understand his character completely.

I love the Lannister house

What was the big spoiler that offended you so?

 

[joesman]

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I certainly went back to watch the episode with the necklace since you posted and did notice a piece missing but am not sure how it taken off the necklace unless Lady O removed it when stroking Sansa's hair.

It seems to me that no matter how Joffrey was treated as a child (he was still a child even as he died), and I don't recall seeing him being mistreated so severely that he would become such a monster, and if you understand him so well - well. From the beginning I remember only that he and his mother and father (uncle, brother) were horrible, horrible people. His incredibly cruel treatment of Sansa, the killing of her father in front of her and all the horribly wicked things he said to her and even wanted to bed her before she married Tyrion, and after she married. He made her life a miserable hell as he has done with almost everyone save his mother and grandfather and father. He is also a cowardly little prick. There is not one redeeming quality for him in his life and only joy in his too easy death. And there was the murder of the whore hanging on a cross as he shot arrows into her - and many, many other things up to and including his behaviour at his own wedding and before that at Tyrion's wedding. So joy in his death is well deserved by his subjects and we viewers, and any sorrow Cercei feels in his death is also a joy. She was the monster who created and nurtured this monster.

 

[Disturbance]

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I certainly went back to watch the episode with the necklace since you posted and did notice a piece missing but am not sure how it taken off the necklace unless Lady O removed it when stroking Sansa's hair.

It seems to me that no matter how Joffrey was treated as a child (he was still a child even as he died), and I don't recall seeing him being mistreated so severely that he would become such a monster, and if you understand him so well - well. From the beginning I remember only that he and his mother and father (uncle, brother) were horrible, horrible people. His incredibly cruel treatment of Sansa, the killing of her father in front of her and all the horribly wicked things he said to her and even wanted to bed her before she married Tyrion, and after she married. He made her life a miserable hell as he has done with almost everyone save his mother and grandfather and father. He is also a cowardly little prick. There is not one redeeming quality for him in his life and only joy in his too easy death. And there was the murder of the whore hanging on a cross as he shot arrows into her - and many, many other things up to and including his behaviour at his own wedding and before that at Tyrion's wedding. So joy in his death is well deserved by his subjects and we viewers, and any sorrow Cercei feels in his death is also a joy. She was the monster who created and nurtured this monster.

Right after Lady O strokes Sansa's hair you can see her reaching for the neklace and taking something away. And in the next moment you can see Sansa with the missing stone. I watched that particular scene over and over, and I'm pretty certain.

Oh don't get me wrong, Joffrey was truly a monster, and not a good person at all, but he was a product of the things that happened to him. You don't need to treat someone badly or even unjustly to turn him into a bad person. I understand him well, because it really isn't that hard. He wanted to hurt people to feel powerful. Then he realized that the suffering of others gives him joy, for it is a clear and obvous sign that he is the one in control. He is like a miniature Cersei with a penis, but he was never taught to be a lady, because he was a boy. Redeeming qualities? I'm sure he has one or two, but he is a child, who is not even a POV in the books, so we will never know.

As for Cersei. I love her character, because she is a very passionate person, so completely driven by her emotion that her intelligence doesn't even come into play. She acts on instinct, and while she is capable of cunning, her temper always carries her the wrong way. I love the dramatic power flares she can show from now and then, and seriously, if she would have magic, she would be the most dangerous villain in the series. After Daenerys, of course.