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Help me understand something, why do poor people take pride in being picky?

They not only don't know the food or "how to order", they seem very uncomfortable having to ask or being forced to try something they've never tried before.

I love trying new foods, but I'm not going to order something that I end up hating and end up wasting my own or someone else's money. So if I want to try something new I would rather try a piece from someone else's plate or eat at a buffet where they have many different things to try, some which I already like.

I tried both lamb (buffet, had heard from my sister who ate it at a dinner party that it has an odd taste) and duck (appetizer) for the first time in my late 30s on a cruise and they were okay but I would not order them again as an entree.
 
I love trying new foods, but I'm not going to order something that I end up hating and end up wasting my own or someone else's money. So if I want to try something new I would rather try a piece from someone else's plate or eat at a buffet where they have many different things to try, some which I already like.

I tried both lamb (buffet, had heard from my sister who ate it at a dinner party that it has an odd taste) and duck (appetizer) for the first time in my late 30s on a cruise and they were okay but I would not order them again as an entree.

That totally makes sense. But I've found that it's exceptionally rare for me to not find something I might like at each restaurant. And I don't even have to try a hundred things - I can usually find something based on the menu descriptions and some aid from either the staff or my friends who have eaten there before. The Middle Eastern restaurant had shish and chicken kabobs, which most Americans would recognize or at least not find unfamiliar. But our friends seemed uncomfortable with the fact that we even had to "guide" them to some things they might like.

Lex
 
That totally makes sense. But I've found that it's exceptionally rare for me to not find something I might like at each restaurant. And I don't even have to try a hundred things - I can usually find something based on the menu descriptions and some aid from either the staff or my friends who have eaten there before. The Middle Eastern restaurant had shish and chicken kabobs, which most Americans would recognize or at least not find unfamiliar. But our friends seemed uncomfortable with the fact that we even had to "guide" them to some things they might like.

Lex

I've never had Thai or Indian food and I would try it but I wouldn't go somewhere on my own and order it.

I don't like certain strong tastes like teriyaki or worcester sauce. As an ingredient I can use either but not as the main flavoring agent. I don't like sour cream or mint sauces either on savory foods so I never had a falafal or gyro. I hate blue cheese too. I remember about a year ago ordering a burger and I normally don't return things but it came out with blue cheese on top so I had too, but I told them they could scrape it off and put american or cheddar and it would be fine.

Good thing we made some interesting conversation about an absurd OP topic, I bet he loves to dumpster dive for his dinner.
 
Well, maybe these poor people are used to going to places that they can afford and have "built-in" taste buds on the few foods they're familiar with. But now you take them out to some fancy eatery that charges $200 for fried seaweed and raw tuna sperm from Japan and these poor people will be picky cause they never had it and find it nasty? A rich person will eat anything because they don't think twice about feeling stupid for paying $60 on a dry burger from exotic camel meat?
 
Okay, I have the answer: when it's your birthday and you put out a wishlist, you put the stuff you want on it. Thus, when someone says "I'm buying you dinner, what do you want?" then you tell them what you want.

Easy.

-d-
 
I think Swell's points were well-made. I have some friends who aren't poor, necessarily, but I'd say they'd agree that they fit into the definition of "jus' folks". And cooking for them and/or picking a restaurant for them is often a bit trickier than normal. We usually stick to American cuisine when cooking, or what you might call "ethnic-American" - lasagna, tacos, what have you. We've occasionally taken these friends to places that we wouldn't think are too "out there" - like a Middle Eastern restaurant - and found them out of their depth. They not only don't know the food or "how to order", they seem very uncomfortable having to ask or being forced to try something they've never tried before.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, we have friends who are college students and bohemians (usually musicians). These people probably have far less money to spare than the "jus' folks" friends, but they never have any trouble trying something unusual or new. Sometimes they have specific dislikes - maybe one hates curry, or another hates mushrooms, or what have you. But they've always come to that conclusion after trying things. They're always up for trying something new that doesn't force them to go outside that small "uncomfortable" area.

Quick sum up - I don't think it has to do with economics so much as mindset.

...and can I have a slice of the second pizza, instead? I prefer supreme over pepperoni. (Preference, not insistence.)

Lex

RE: "and can I have a slice of the second pizza, instead? I prefer supreme over pepperoni."

Pretending to be animalius: "Sure, but poor ingrates have to share."

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I'm hesitant to put my oar in with all the vitriol spraying around this topic, but I think I can explain:

By making a show of being choosy about what one eats, one achieves two ends: first, you show that you're not so poor that you have to eat any old scrap that comes along; second, you excuse yourself from eating expensive things by claiming to not like them... even telling yourself that you don't like them.

A lot of people from certain socioeconomic classes will deride any food that is "fancy" because it makes them feel inadequate; and so they make a show to themselves and others that the fancy food is just overpriced junk that they wouldn't touch if they were starving. You do this for enough generations, and you come up with a cultural behavior. Eventually the fanciness of the food is no longer the reason they don't like it, it's simply a cultural habit to not like unfamiliar foods. You may be observing this behavior in people with low-paying or no jobs because this cultural habit tends to accompany other cultural habits that tend to limit people to the bottom rungs of any career.

The thing is, poverty is just as inherited as affluence: the children of poor people tend to remain poor all their days, while the children of the rich tend to stay rich. Lots of people change their socioeconomic status, but the overwhelming majority of people do not. And since people tend to stay in one socioeconomic bracket for generations and generations, socioeconomic status becomes a subculture, with its own codes of behavior, its own languages, its own priorities, its own motives.

The affluent, on the other hand, are more willing to try new things because it is seen as sophisticated to do so. To be adventurous with food is really the province of those who can afford to eat anywhere, even if the food in question is not expensive. But one is more likely to find the eat-anything mentality in people who are not poor or rich, but who are socioeconomically mobile.

There are plenty of old-money types wandering around who won't try anything unless their mothers' cooks knew how to make it; go to any country-club in America and you'll find a dinner menu identical to the menus of every other country club, and not very different from those same clubs' menus from the twenties or the fifties. But the people who belong to those clubs tend to not know people who do not belong to those clubs... i.e., you or me.

See, there's another psychological element at work: curiosity. People who are curious are naturally more likely to be socioeconomically mobile because they want to know what the world is like beyond the borders of their own lives, and are not blindly loyal to their backgrounds. They are more likely to become educated, and therefore more likely to get higher-paying jobs. And they are more likely to eat things just to find out what they taste like.

And those are probably the people you find yourself among.

In short, i noticed "poor" people don't want to eat new food !!!
New food are cheaper healthier and some what better but they don't want to try.
Example, my housemate.
 
I think maybe the OP only notices pickyness when he's paying the bill.
Otherwise it flies under his radar. He just gets judgmental if he thinks people are not grateful and unquestioning of whatever he deems they deserve.
Relative wealth and pickyness do not correlate in my experience, but snobs can be found anywhere.
 
I don't think I have enough friends to make a comment, but I'd think many poorer people aren't picky. If anything, I feel like middle class people are picky. My friends and family are all pretty pick to a degree. I guess I am, too, but I also follow by that motto that if it's edible I'll try to eat it.
 
I think maybe the OP only notices pickyness when he's paying the bill.
Otherwise it flies under his radar. He just gets judgmental if he thinks people are not grateful and unquestioning of whatever he deems they deserve.
Relative wealth and pickyness do not correlate in my experience, but snobs can be found anywhere.

Another winner! Since you need water, here's a box of it as your prize...

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That's what I'm asking.

It's an observation. I started noticing this a few years ago. The only millionaire friend I have happens to be a skinny girl that will eat anything you put in front of her. One time I took her to a traditional asian party, and they happened to have blood pie there. It's made of raw animal blood. After I told her what it was, she actually ate it just to see what it tasted like.

On the other hand, the only people I've seen giving out a list of stuff they don't want on the pizza (that they knew will be paid for) are people with dead end jobs and people with no jobs.

I've also seen poor people go into a chinese restaurant and ordered eggs and fries and then bragged afterward that they ate chinese. In fact, I've never seen this type of behavior in the more affluent people I know.

Just wondering why being poor makes them so picky of what they eat.

Your question is based on anecdotes.

My sister had a rich friend who, when she took out to dinner for her birthday, instead of ordering anything normal, ordered abalone. The dinner cost like $200. My sister won't repeat that mistake again.
 
I don't think I have enough friends to make a comment, but I'd think many poorer people aren't picky. If anything, I feel like middle class people are picky. My friends and family are all pretty pick to a degree. I guess I am, too, but I also follow by that motto that if it's edible I'll try to eat it.

Then you deserve a break today...

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I've never noticed this.

But since you have - perhaps there is a valid reason.

For example, a richer person would have the luxury of having been exposed to many more things over his/her lifetime. A richer person would have the luxury of being able to order something - and then finding out that he/she doesn't like it, order something else.

A poorer person might more often resort to the same staples - and not having exposure to a lot of things, not want to take a chance on it in front of someone else.

I've never tried caviar. If you invited me to a high-brow event where they served caviar, I might very well pass on it. And the more that it cost, the less likely i might be to try it. If you said, "go ahead take a taste - you know that it is $200 an ounce". I might be afraid that i am going to spit it out and ruin my taste buds for the evening. Now, if i had the opportunity as a child to sample these things, i would know my reaction and i would take the chance. And the $200/ounce might not scare me away.

But I think the same example could be used for inexpensive items. Am i going to try anchovies on that $10 pizza? If i worked an hour to earn that $10 - i might decide it isn't worth the risk that i will have wasted that hour. Yes, I might be missing out on the chance that I really like anchovies, but I know that i like cheese and sausage.

And if you are paying for me, i might even be less inclined to take the chance. How would you feel, after all, if i say - "Yeah, let's go ahead and try anchovies" and when the pizza arrives, I take one bite and then don't eat anything else.

It could be self-consciousness. It could be the lack of exposure. It could be some inherent pride that they know that they can't reciprocate, so they don't want to feel beholden.
 
RE: "and can I have a slice of the second pizza, instead? I prefer supreme over pepperoni."

Pretending to be animalius: "Sure, but poor ingrates have to share."

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Sorry for the delay, Lex, butt it was cold, anyway. :alien:

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