Help me understand that in our society of entitlement we have people who are poor.

[Benvolio]

No your economical structure relies on millions of people being on very low-income.

Importing people is just a way to make sure a higher percentage of the native born people don't have to take on that role.

No. But try to focus on the fact that the answer to the question in the title is that we have so many poor because we continue to import millions of more poor people. And last year with 14 million unemployed Americans we gave green cards to 11 million illegals to compete with them. Why is it so hard to face the fact that importing poor people increases poverty and unemployment.

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

We import new poor people

we?
then import < buy 2 dozen get 1 free
then new - wot do old ones?
then poor
but coor is get title a >people
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anyway

* feet cum wit rest it *
^ okay is take it ^
" ooh wot wheels fa? "
^ gonna ride ya home ^
" ooooh wot fun "

thankyou

 

[Laufey]

Ouch that's so low.

I get $1700 a month (from the state) and my rent is $500. Prices are probably higher here though but still.

 

[xbuzzerx]

I notice the (understandable) lack of steam for people to continue attacking the aid-abusing parasite scum when people bring the personal accounts into consideration.

The problem is when you try to just villify a whole swath of people you don't know as "different parasites" and have a hard time attacking the people here who have actually given personal stories about what these services do and mean to people who need them, you're assuming anyone out there doesn't have a personal story that you'd find some sympathy with if you heard it. Instead of just thinking of them as a monolithic lump of useless parasites.

 

[Benvolio]

I notice the (understandable) lack of steam for people to continue attacking the aid-abusing parasite scum when people bring the personal accounts into consideration.

The problem is when you try to just villify a whole swath of people you don't know as "different parasites" and have a hard time attacking the people here who have actually given personal stories about what these services do and mean to people who need them, you're assuming anyone out there doesn't have a personal story that you'd find some sympathy with if you heard it. Instead of just thinking of them as a monolithic lump of useless parasites.

You, by contrast, want to conclude from a few alleged and unverifiable personal stories that the vast millions living off the taxpayers are all worthy recipients of the largess.

 

[Laufey]

He probably already knows how to eat very cheaply.

Quit smoking is probably the most financial gain from a single action.

 

[xbuzzerx]

You, by contrast, want to conclude from a few alleged and unverifiable personal stories that the vast millions living off the taxpayers are all worthy recipients of the largess.

I disagree fundamentally that "largess" is an accurate description of living off aid, as the stories here all should have told you, and yes, I disagree that anyone out there doesn't have a personal story, and I also disagree that each of those people should have to come and get personal approval from you or Pat Grimshaw to justify that their circumstances warranted it.

This is a society that doesn't believe in leaving people in their old age or once they get an illness to go out on the street and die while living on catfood. If you would find that preferrable I could recommend some third world countries for expatriation consideration.

 

[Laufey]

Nicotine products didn't work for me either. In fact I actually ended up consuming more nicotine on the gum and then ended up back on the cigarettes.

What worked for me was to cut down the dosage (of cigarettes) just like I would with medication. For example when I was on Ritalin (which is similar to speed/amphetamine) my doctor had me lower the dosage for 3 months before quitting it.

I just decided always to count them and never go over the number I'm allowed to have a day. I then cut down the number by one every week until it was 0 and I quit. So if you smoke a pack a day (20 cigarettes) and stick to the plan then you would stop smoking after 20 weeks. I didn't have to go all the way down to one though, when I was down to 3 a day I felt the addiction had become mild enough for me to stop so I did.

It's probably not the best method for most people but it worked for me. Just wanted to throw it out there since you have tried ALMOST everything but probably not this

P.s. yes it sucks but I'm very fortunate to live in a society which takes good care of the less fortunate. I have everything I need but it sucks to be home so much and not have a role in society.

 

[PreTTy PeTe]

It's living hell.

I live on a paltry disability pension. I get $900 a month, and $600 of that immediately goes to rent. Add in Internet, any kind of phone (surprisingly, landlines are more expensive my prepaid cellphone), household expenses and cigarettes (yes, yes, I know), not to mention payday lenders when I get into a huge bind, and I have less than $100 a month for food. Needless to say, even with support from the local food bank, I rarely have enough to eat.

$900 does not seem right if it's disability. Are you getting a diet allowance for a special diet, money for transportation to get you to your medicals. Ask your doctor about all the options.

you should look into it because I know people here in Ontario get about 1300 per month on government disability.

sorry about your situation and the people here that might light of poverty are bastards as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Laufey]

A long time after quitting the urge is pretty much all mental (remembering how good it felt) since you aren't physically addicted to it any longer.

But we can't underestimate the mental side of it. It always weighs a lot and for some people even more than the physical part (explains why it can be difficult for people to quit cannabis although it isn't very physically addictive).