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Here is a possible near future moral dilemma

This is between you and their lawyer and the courts.

All their possessions may be seized and the assets used for their children. This is what should happen.

Just because they are convicted and go to prison doesn't automatically mean that you end up with an apartment full of free stuff. They still own it.
 
Did the neighbors see bruises on the kids or something?
From the news I've read as well as word of mouth (I know someone who works in the system), a teacher noticed a bruise on the stomach of the oldest kid. Teacher asked and the kid said she got beat by dad. Teacher alerted CPS. Kid changed her mind and said she fell. CPS looked at all the kids and found bruises all over their bodies in places that normally don't show. Like places that would normally be covered up by clothes. There's a quote from one of the articles I read that one of the youngest was caught saying to the mom "I told them what you told me to say", or something like that.

Child abuse cases are very public in this state. The press has been all over it. I never thought my company would actually make it to the news, especially in this kind of negativity.
 
This is between you and their lawyer and the courts.

All their possessions may be seized and the assets used for their children. This is what should happen.

Just because they are convicted and go to prison doesn't automatically mean that you end up with an apartment full of free stuff. They still own it.
Trust me, I've no interest in any of their stuff. I guess when the time comes I'll have my lawyer reach out to theirs and ask about the stuff.
 
This is between you and their lawyer and the courts.

All their possessions may be seized and the assets used for their children. This is what should happen.

Just because they are convicted and go to prison doesn't automatically mean that you end up with an apartment full of free stuff. They still own it.
Wait hang on. I don't know anything about cases like this. Regarding the state taking all the stuff for the kids, are you speaking from knowledge or what you think ought to happen?
 
I don't know what the state will do either.

But if you don't have your eyes on some of this stuff, then you should make it clear that it will be the state's burden to remove the contents for the benefit of the minor children. That is how I would approach it through my lawyer.

Someone can then decide to store it until the owners are released from prison or order it disposed of with the proceeds to the victims in trust.
 
That would be industrial grade hot glue sticks, pat.
 
Update on this.

OMG it's been almost a year... actually we are 3 weeks away from a year exactly and their lawyer is still paying rent and all the bills accordingly. Where the fuck is all this money coming from?

But ya, my lawyer reached out to theirs a while back telling them that as long as rent is paid in full the place continues to be theirs. At this point, I've been in the dark for months now. Aside from rent being paid on the 1st every month, I have no idea what the hell is going on.

I must say these people are defying my prediction. I originally predicted that they would eventually stop paying rent. I mean, who the hell wants to pay $1200/month for a house they're not even living in? But apparently they still want to keep the place.

I've also been told that they have a family friend regularly look after the place. I've been checking on it from time to time and no change.

We will be having freezing temperature pretty soon. I guess I'll pay doubly attention to that place to make sure the pipes don't freeze or anything like that.

Still a hell of a weird situation.
 
Sounds like they're ideal tenants. They pay their rent on time and don't cause any wear and tear to the property.
 
I assume they are still incarcerated? Even in that case, they may be receiving benefits that are paid into a trust account managed by their lawyer.

It may be worth their while to still demonstrate that they are not homeless. Until they are convicted and sentenced, there is no reason for their lawyer to not continue to pay their rent and utilities.

I would definitely be checking on the place regularly since it is vacant, but make sure you notify the lawyer prior. Maybe give him a schedule of when you will be checking for heating and plumbing and be specific about those two items.
 
I assume they are still incarcerated? Even in that case, they may be receiving benefits that are paid into a trust account managed by their lawyer.

It may be worth their while to still demonstrate that they are not homeless. Until they are convicted and sentenced, there is no reason for their lawyer to not continue to pay their rent and utilities.

I would definitely be checking on the place regularly since it is vacant, but make sure you notify the lawyer prior. Maybe give him a schedule of when you will be checking for heating and plumbing and be specific about those two items.
Yes, they're still in there.

Why is this thing taking so long? I asked a friend who is a criminal lawyer. He told me the most common strategy in a criminal case like this is for the defense to keep asking the court for continuation because the case is not yet ripe for trial. See, when the case first happened, the offender is public enemy number 1. If you let enough time go by, people will start to lose interest. Once the public has forgotten about the case, there is a lot less pressure on the DA to throw the book at them. Hence, given enough time that goes by, there will be a lot more chances of working out a deal to the benefits of the defendant.

I mean, this makes sense. All these police brutality cases we see on the news. They are stretched out for years. Elijah McClain died 4 years ago and they just started going to trial now. That's how long they stretched it out for.

But in the mean time, the kids are in foster care for this long and the parents are still in jail. It sucks. I can't imagine sitting in jail for a year or longer waiting for trial.

I remember when this first broke the news, everybody around here was talking about it. I had a tenant tell me if he ran into them he'd beat them up for abusing their kids. I had to tell that tenant to go easy on the language. The neighbors of that house I talked to all expressed dismay and disdain for the parents.

Nowadays, nobody is talking about it. So, I guess the strategy is working.

But ya, I need to go check the place once or twice a week during the coldest months. I've seen what happens when a pipe froze and busted. It's ugly and the damages...

You are absolutely correct. I need to let their lawyer know I'll be checking the place regularly in the winter months just in case. I'll do this next week.

And you're right about demonstrating they're not homeless. I'm guessing their lawyer advised them to keep the place for the long term goal of getting the kids back.
 
Life is full of mysteries. Just take the money and stay out of their business.
Ya, as long as it doesn't affect my business I'm fine with the current arrangement.

6 months ago, I actually was telling myself they're gonna stop paying any time now and damn it I'll have to deal with all the worldly possessions of an entire family. Wasn't looking forward to it.

But now, I've grown to expect payment every month.
 
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