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He's Not Ready...But I Am (Long)

topherlover555

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So i've came out to a few of my friends this year. It all started when i fell for my friend. I always thought he was cute and always thought he was gay, but eventually, it was just killing me to not be able to tell anyone about my issues. So i told two of my best friends i was gay. They were really accepting of it and i also told them that i had a crush on this guy, who they knew but not really, and they were kind of schocked. Still supportive about it though.
So then, i told one of his best friends, who we are both really close to. And she was extremely surprised that i liked him, because she's been his friend since God knows when and i thought maybe he had come out to her. That wasn't the case, and she was so happy and really didn't care about either two facts but supported me in thinking he was gay. She says every time she asked he would just get mad and change subject.
Afterwards, my emotions ran wild, and it was nearing the end of the year and my work load was getting heavier and i really couldn't focus. I had this weight on my shoulder that i could never get off, so i decided i'd have to tell him in order for myself to be at peace. When i asked my three friends for support, they said to just come out to him, not to tell him i liked him.
So i did. One morning, i told him on the computer (i know dumb move!) and he didn't respond for a good 3 minutes, but when he did, he said he was perfectly fine with it, and had to go.
Later that day, from his best friend, i found out he was making a big deal out of it to her and she just said to give it up and stop trying and he got very defensive.
So i was let down, and the next few days were semi-awkward around her.

Eventually, i told a lot more ppl, about 15 know now, but they're all sworn to secrecy. I feel really comfortable with myself, but i'm unsure as to why he wouldn't confide in me if he was gay too.

I've become good friends with his cousin and us two have so much in common. And she couldn't be happier that i like him. She also thinks he's gay, so now i've pretty much got everyone telling me he's gay, but him.
This month and last, i've become really close to him and his cousin, and we see each other at least once every two weeks. He sometimes tries to prove he's straight in front of us, but when other people aren't around..he seems to let his guard down more.
Some days we think we get to him, some days we fail miserably.
Lately though, when we talk over MSN or in general, i feel this deep tension, and its like he wants to talk to me about me being gay but he's scared, and it's like i want to ask him if he's gay but i'm scared he'll get mad.
On top of all that. He's the only guy i told, so i have no gay friends that i know of who are close enough to confide in, so its like i'm all alone with a lot of support from girls.
The funny thing is, he knows all the close people around me know i'm gay. So i think, "he must see that as a good thing that all his friends/cousin are okay with people that are gay" but there's still so many times he tries. Its actualy laughable too. And i feel really bad for him.

I don't want to rush him into coming out. But what if he's not gay? and i've fallen in love with someone i can't have? What if he is gay and thinks i like him and that scares him? What am i supposed to do? I really needed to confide in other people who have been here.
I know i'm supposed to wait for him to be ready, but my heart hurts, and its becoming increasingly horrible. I don't even think about other guys anymore. It's like i've got my eyes on the prize and theres nothing else i can be satisfied with. And every day i wake up and my stomach turns with the wonderment of all the things he says and does and whether i'm reading him right.
Even if he doesn't like me, i still wonder if he's gay. And if he's not, i will be heartbroken, but i will still love the fact that he accepts me.
WHAT DO I DO? PLEASE HELP ME!
 
If he's gay, he'll come out to you, eventually. Don't try to force him into coming out, because he should be coming out because he's ready, and not because you want him to come out.
For your own good, don't try to think too much about how it would be when he does come out, and you guys start a relation. Thinking of what might happen makes you fall in love with him even more, and if he turns out to be straight you'll be even more devastated.
Something you can do, is just listen. Just be relaxed around him, and don't be scared to create a setting that would make it easier for him to come out.
 
If he's gay, he'll come out to you, eventually. Don't try to force him into coming out, because he should be coming out because he's ready, and not because you want him to come out.
For your own good, don't try to think too much about how it would be when he does come out, and you guys start a relation. Thinking of what might happen makes you fall in love with him even more, and if he turns out to be straight you'll be even more devastated.
Something you can do, is just listen. Just be relaxed around him, and don't be scared to create a setting that would make it easier for him to come out.

Thank you...i am really grateful to finally have someones input who knows what its like.
 
>>>I don't want to rush him into coming out.

It certainly sounds like you do. You keep asking people if they think he's gay, you as a group keep broaching the subject, you keep looking for signs.

My general rule is this - if someone says they're straight, believe it. Either it's true, or they're not comfortable saying otherwise. Whichever it is, you're better simply accepting it as a fact until he tells you otherwise. So do it. :)

Lex
 
wow
ur right... it is kind of true tht im being hypocritical here...teling myself tht im not forcing him out, but im trying to figure it out...its the same thing
 
Spend time working your way out of your own closet. Leave this guy to his own closet- you can't go in there and fetch him out. Everyone has to come out on his own time and his own schedule.
 
i'm with lex. it's a massive turnoff if an openly gay guy goes around snooping around in my business and asking my friends shit about me (i'm not out except to close friends). not to mention it's a little creepy. i could be wrong but i think you've shot yourself in the foot with this one
 
i'm with lex. it's a massive turnoff if an openly gay guy goes around snooping around in my business and asking my friends shit about me (i'm not out except to close friends). not to mention it's a little creepy. i could be wrong but i think you've shot yourself in the foot with this one

yeah, i have really thought of it lately, it seems so creepy to be asking people or getting their opinion. I'm really starting to feel like a complete asshole here. i've dug my own hole. I really hope this can turn out well, but for now, i've got to stop expecting him to come around or expecting others to back me up. I have to temporarily put him aside until the day he comes out to me...if it ever comes.

I just wish there was another guy who could take my mind off of him, but its hard to when i know nobody who's gay.

Thanks to all you guys, keep posting advice or similar issues please
 
Okay, so new evidence has surfaced to lead me to believe that because i'm gay, he is scared of me outing him, because i know he is, or he thinks i can see it. How the heck do u make someone feel comfortable who deserves to be so and has nothing to worry about?
 
That's a pretty tricky question right there.
It's pretty possible he thinks you're going to out him. But then again, there are other reasons, you just never know. I think, in order to make him feel comfortable, you just have to treat him as you best friend, rather than treating him as 'a potential gay best friend that hasn't come out yet'.
Just be yourself, be his friend, support him... But not with expectations whatsoever.
 
That's a pretty tricky question right there.
It's pretty possible he thinks you're going to out him. But then again, there are other reasons, you just never know. I think, in order to make him feel comfortable, you just have to treat him as you best friend, rather than treating him as 'a potential gay best friend that hasn't come out yet'.
Just be yourself, be his friend, support him... But not with expectations whatsoever.

Suprisingly, i'm really liking this idea. i've noticed i'm learning to calm down around him because the nerves are useless. Thanks guys!
 
It's never safe to assume somebody is gay if they say they are straight. If he's says he's straight one of two things is true.

A. He's straight.

B. He isn't comfortable with himself yet.

Being overly intrusive never ends up well.
 
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