The Original Gay Porn Community - Free Gay Movies and Photos, Gay Porn Site Reviews and Adult Gay Forums

  • Welcome To Just Us Boys - The World's Largest Gay Message Board Community

    In order to comply with recent US Supreme Court rulings regarding adult content, we will be making changes in the future to require that you log into your account to view adult content on the site.
    If you do not have an account, please register.
    REGISTER HERE - 100% FREE / We Will Never Sell Your Info

    PLEASE READ: To register, turn off your VPN (iPhone users- disable iCloud); you can re-enable the VPN after registration. You must maintain an active email address on your account: disposable email addresses cannot be used to register.

  • Hi Guest - Did you know?
    Hot Topics is a Safe for Work (SFW) forum.

HFCS - Making Americans Obese?

Loki, there's that too. But I don't think the correlation between obesity, diabetes and the increase of HFCS in the American diet can be overlooked.
 
Americans should exercise more, sure. But WHAT we eat is just as important as HOW MUCH we eat. You could eat only three times a day buy if you eat McDonald's everyday your ass is gonna be big. If you drink soda instead of water and eat potato chips instead of fruit - yup, a big gut is in your future.

And its not about blaming corporations or anyone. Its about finding the source(s) of American obesity. I am not buying that Americans are just lazy. What we are eating is killing us.
 
While it is a perfectly valid argument to say that if people ate less and exercised more then they would be healthier, and that no-one is forced to eat 'bad' food, the reality of day-to-day life for many is not quite so simple.

For a start how big a marketing budget is there for healthy, low fat, low sugar foods? I bet the total annual spend on healthy eating messages and programs is about the equivalent of a week's worth of Coke's advertising budget.

How many schools now have McDonalds and Taco Bell or Pizza Hut providing the lunches? How many schools have soda machines?

How many sporting events are sponsored by purveyors of crappy, unhealthy food?

I have recently been watching Man V Food and find it absolutely fascinating that the food challenges he takes on around the country almost always consist of enough food to provide the calorific needs of an average man for about a week - which, as a one off, once in a blue moon gimmick would be fine, but the regular portion sizes at most of the restaurants he visits are big enough to feed two or three people - Just because it is possible to get 3 pounds of meat, chees, chilli and pickles on a bun doesn't make that a good thing.

Maybe they could have reverse challenges - if anyone weighing over 300lb can eat just a small salad without mayo - they get their photo on the wall.

Here in Britain we are not that far behind (although I don't think we have much in the way of HFCS yet and Trans Fats have pretty much been banned) but we still have lunacy like chocolate companies giving vouchers for schools sports equipment - eat enough chocolate to cause a stroke and we'll give you a tennis ball!
 
Travisevian said:
Are you claiming that you weighed over 400 pounds because you were bingeing on healthy food?
Click to expand...

Easily done. I saw a program on super-obese people having gastric band surgery and one guy could not understand how he was not losing weigh as all he ate was oranges. He could not comprehend that just eating oranges won't help if you eat 40-50 of them a day - it is still giving your body far more calories than it needs to function.
 
The point Is NOT that people need to consume fewer calories to lose weight. That's something that even HFCSs worst detractors won't deny.

The point is that it's far easier to overeat when all your food is laced with HFCS- because it competely fucks up your body's insulin response, so you don't know WHEN to stop eating.
 
loki81 said:
that's kinda the heart of my point... is cake healthy if it's made with unprocessed ingredients?
Click to expand...

Cake is what

Flour
Butter
Sugar
Eggs

Ain't no way you're making that healthy.

But obviously overeating anything is going to make you fat. But for the average person who is making a turkey sandwhich with mayo they are not expecting that the processed turkey is full of sodium and turkey byproducts, that the white bread will basically convert to sugar and also has HFCS, and the mayo has HFCS, trans and saturated fat. That's the problem. Ordinary food, some of which is advertised as "low-fat" or even "healthy" is full of unnatural ingredients.
 
I have so rare opportunities to quote McCain/Palin but here goes - we need an "all of the above" solution.
 
Serving size and portion control is the real problem in America.
 
I think it's a sort of "perfect storm" that's led to this obesity crisis.

Yes, HFCS plays a HUGE part. But, so do portion sizes and video games and something called the internet and PE classes being cut from schools and lots of other things at the same time.

The economy sucks. Fast food is cheap. Lots of parents are not schooled at all when it comes to nutrition.

A super big gulp and a bag of chips and off to school, Timmy !
 
frankfrank said:
Is it true that "glucose-fructose" on Canadian food labeling, is similar to or the same thing as HFCS in the U.S.?
Click to expand...

No.

HFCS is something that doesn't exist in nature. At all. Your body is incapable of breaking it down.

Oh.. but stay away from "Crystalline Fructose" which is pretty nasty shit too.
 
Hot White Trash said:
Cake is what

Flour
Butter
Sugar
Eggs

Ain't no way you're making that healthy.

But obviously overeating anything is going to make you fat. But for the average person who is making a turkey sandwhich with mayo they are not expecting that the processed turkey is full of sodium and turkey byproducts, that the white bread will basically convert to sugar and also has HFCS, and the mayo has HFCS, trans and saturated fat. That's the problem. Ordinary food, some of which is advertised as "low-fat" or even "healthy" is full of unnatural ingredients.
Click to expand...

spot on, think SUBWAY.
 
JasunStrikesBack said:
No.

HFCS is something that doesn't exist in nature. At all. Your body is incapable of breaking it down.

Oh.. but stay away from "Crystalline Fructose" which is pretty nasty shit too.
Click to expand...

Incapable of breaking it down? Actually, the liver can break it down. Where do you get your information?

I think there's a lot of good and bad information on this thread, which goes to show how much misinformation there is out there. I wish there was a solid source of the "facts" on HFCS, beyond that lengthy Bitter Truth Youtube video.
 
theblackajah said:
Incapable of breaking it down? Actually, the liver can break it down. Where do you get your information?
Click to expand...

I've read that in a lot of places, one I can remember off the top of my head was a book written by David Zinczenko. Whether your liver can break it down or not, it's been blamed for a high spike in insulin which can lead to obesity and diabetes.

anyone who tells you it's not bad for you or it's "fine in moderation" is full of it.

(and have you seen what "moderation" is, even in the commercials? The women in one are drinking it "in moderation" which is about 1/3 of a glass. NO child drinks that little.)
 
van-ee said:
loki is right....it don't matter much if its HFCS or refined sugar....

Peoples taste buds are so enhanced by salt and sugars of all kinds,as well as fast food,chinese and other restaurant chains serving food that is highly highly seasoned,that some people are forgetting what foods tastes like naturally.We need to get back to eating foods in their natural state and use minimal procedures preparing them.Save the highly seasoned and high sugar foods for a rare or (once in a while) treat,rather then daily consumption.

And staying active is key.
Click to expand...

the camera adds ten pounds, i'm getting rid of that too
 
If you shop at a higher-end store like Whole Foods, there are no products with HFCS or Trans Fats, Sucralose, crystalline Fructose or any of those other fucked up ingredients.

but it's not affordable for most. It's why a lot of people just resign themselves to being fat.
 
JasunStrikesBack said:
Ok, so we're clear on this... "High Fructose Corn Syrup" isn't corn, it isn't Fructose and it isn't healthy in any amount.

IT's a fucked up chemical that tastes sweet but your body can't break it down, causing your insulin to spike HUGE and it can lead to obesity, diabetes and liver failure.

It also blocks the message to your brain that you've had enough to eat so you stay hungry even after you've eaten. It's one of the main reasons that people are so fat in America.
Click to expand...

people should write whole words instead of HFCS as if everyone know that thing.
Thanks for the explanation with details.

Wondering why is it legal to produce that sort of fake food? :confused:
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top