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Hillary Clinton for President

Among Democrat potential candidates, who would you vote for in 2008?


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Allright guys, it's time to mobilize forces for Hillary to run for President of the United States. I would like to know intelligent opinions and thoughts on the subject. Much has been said about how polarizing she is, but people do change, and I wonder if this aspect of her political persona still holds water, especially in our community. Personally, I would vote for her in a split second, because as you know, you get two for the price of one!
 
i believe she would do a great job and would personally run out and vote for her myself. she is a great candidate. while the clinton administration was in office she was very involved and never sat back when mistakes were being made. ergo she has white house experience, also, for the most part she leans to the domestic, so health and poverty would be prime issues she would be addressing instead of needless wars in the middle east. i believe the us should use its power to help others but not at the expense of its own people being neglected, remember hurricane katrina. anderson cried and said these people looked like they were living in a third world country, while it was appreciated when other nations helped it was not necessary,

i firmly belive that this nation is still one of the most powerful in the world and that the response to a catastrophe like that could have been handled alot better under an administration that truly concentrated on homeland security. that entails anything that can har our homes not just foriegners. this i believe would be a stron suite under a hillary administration
 
I would never vote for Hillary--she has been quite hawkish on the Iraq War.:p
 
I would vote for Nancy Pelosi though!..|
 
45% of the public says they'll never vote for her...you can't start with those kinds of negatives and win. she's way too polarizing. the great thing about being a democrat is you're probably a little more open minded than those in the Gay Ol' Party and you wanna break new ground but a presidential election isn't the fucking place for an experiment you know will fail. we can't commit suicide for the sake of being politically correct and giving the nomination to a woman (unfortunately, the same applies to barak obama) or we'll be out of power for the forseeable future. the thing to also keep in mind...if hilary is anywhere on the ticket, we'll lose by such a massive margin that the tidal wave will give congress back to the fucking republicans. i will not be voting for her.
 
Howard Dean already proved his character, Ralph Nader is way too old, and Nancy Pelosi has yet to prove herself as a leader.
 
I like Hillary but her vote to authorize the war was a big error. She could have said her vote was a mistake, knowing now about the faulty intelligence and lies but she has stuck by her vote.

I agree with james about her negatives. Independent voters, especially men, will not vote for her in the numbers she needs. I think if the Dems eventually nominate her for President, they are going down to defeat in 2008.

I think that Obama is less polarizing than Clinton and his lack of experience is his big draw-back. We'll just have to wait and see with him.

I'm sorry Feingold got out. He was my guy.

Edwards might be the guy but on some left leaning blogs there's rumors of a Gore return. Wouldn't that be fun!
 
I'd have to agree with BoSox & James on this issue. Unfortunately the majority of the voting public is not ready for a female president nor a person of color. That said, I do think that Hillary will get the Democratic party's nomination in '08 ( I think she should ask Obama to be her running mate). I will vote for her if she is the candidate but I will no doubt be voting for the losing ticket.
 
Hey, even Barbara Bush says America is ready for a female President!

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I like Gore also, but I don't feel the groundswell. Kerry & Edwards voted for the war too, presumably for the same reasons as Hillary. I'm not at all sure what the independents will do and they probably don't either, they're all morons.

The image that most people have of Hillary is the one the Republicans gave her, that can be changed. A good Vice candidate and old Bill and an ability to run a competent campaign (unlike the last two candidates) give her a leg up on the election. Being a woman may well be more of an asset than a liability. The NASCAR dads aren't going to vote for a Dem any way.

Brownback and the Massachusetts Mormon are running to the right of McCain and his war stance doesn't play with normal people (moderates), that doesn't give him much wiggle room. Who else they got?
 
I like Gore too. Although the idea of Hillary (and Bill) back in the white house would cause many Conservatives to spontanously combust, which is definately a tempting proposition............

And what the fuck exactly is NASCAR? Is it something fat, lazy people pretend is a sport so they can feel part of because they drive?
I don't get it.
 
Romney is dead in the water

I think Gore is as well... just too much bagagge

the Dem ticket will be Clinton and obama or Obama and Clinton.

I think they will each cover the other's weaknesses

i cant envision any other real options for a national audience
 
Romney is dead in the water

I think Gore is as well... just too much bagagge

the Dem ticket will be Clinton and obama or Obama and Clinton.

I think they will each cover the other's weaknesses

i cant envision any other real options for a national audience


I think you had better envision another option.:D She has too many negatives and he has absolutely no experience.
 
Looking West, the pick-up on the Colorado governorship and a few choice House seats means a Great Coalition is forming -- the West and the Northeast are aligning to form a new Democratic majority, a majority that does not need to win in GOP strongholds, one that is sufficient in electoral votes to elect a Democratic president in this next election without spending a dime contesting in Florida, Tennessee, Texas, or the rest of the South.

I disagree

We have to compete in all 50 states, and I think Dean's 50 state strategy is the biggest reason that Dems are in control in the Senate. Had we not fielded candidates in Montana or Virginia we would not have the Senate.

To categorically write off the South in the next presidential election, is tantamount to basically not being well enough informed about the South. There are states we can flip.

Florida remains a political mystery. Just how will the political winds blow at the time? The fact that Jeb Bush was wildly popular does not mean that the new GOP Gov. will be likewise. Jeb Bush took Florida through 4 hurricanes and did his constituents well. I just don't think the new Gov. will be as fortunate.

Louisiana and Arkansas have had and continue to have a thriving Democratic party within those states. Both could be flipped for the right candidate.

North Carolina is perhaps the most evolving state in the South. As more and more liberals move into the "Golden Triangle," we're already seeing it become more and more democratic in Raleigh. Just imagine a few Fairfax County, Virginia's smack dab in the middle of North Carolina and you can see what I mean.

Georgia, while teaming with a richness of GOP politicians right now, could be flipped by easily capturing Atlanta. This wouldn't be an easy move, but then again Georgia shouldn't be written off.

Oklahoma, home to Wesley Clark, could be flipped for the right candidate, and, indeed, Kentucky and Virginia could as well.

What some outsiders may not pick up on, but people like myself, Maltese, and others who actually live here, is that the South is really not all that solid, nor are we all that united.

People living in my birth state of Mississippi often consider North Carolina and Virginia to be "up north." We were loathe to even include Tennessee at times, thus the euphemism "mid-south" was termed. And really, no one outside, perhaps, Tennessee, considers Kentucky as a Southern State - Kentucky wasn't even part of the old Confederacy.

There were people who were dead set against sending money for a Democratic challenger in Montana. And they were wrong.

We can't afford to not compete in every state.

As for my pick for president, it remains the same. Bill Richardson of New Mexico. And while I have given considerable thought to just whom should be the 2nd person on the ticket, for the moment I am leaning toward Wesley Clark. I have given serious consideration to Janet Napolitano of New Mexico, and she would force McCain to campaign at home, but I'm just not quite there in signing off on her yet. The Western Strategy is a winning strategy in my book, though.

O'Bama is still too new and would just be a repeat of John Edwards candidacy. And I'm afraid Al Gore's train has come and gone. Decent and wonderful man, but he should have run in the last election.

We have to look to the state houses, even more, for Presidential candidates. Being in the Senate carries too much baggage.
 
he's never recovered from the republican smear machine that went into overdrive as they awaited the supreme court to hand the election to Bush

edit... that was an answer to alfie, not snaps...
 
he's never recovered from the republican smear machine that went into overdrive as they awaited the supreme court to hand the election to Bush

Very accurate assessment.

Plus, Gore should have run in the last cycle.

We have to look beyond the Gore, Clinton and even Bush families for the future of our party.
 
Very accurate assessment.

Plus, Gore should have run in the last cycle.

We have to look beyond the Gore, Clinton and even Bush families for the future of our party.

its hard to see who that can be, but the next two years will be very important to both parties

Boxer is grinding salt into the GOP wound today with accusations that Bush didnt get the message, and honestly he is talking like he didnt get it.

that will hurt everyone with an R behind his name
 
the general is right...i think we'll lose that virginia seat in six years but there are still a ton of moderate republican senators in the north east...there are 2 above me in maine...and while i like and respect both of them, they'll go down. the north is as democratic as the south is republican. we don't need the south, especially considering, like the general said, the west and mountain states have become very competitive.

i think everyone looks at a map of the united states and they panic because they see these very large states that dominate that map and those states are red. well, nobody lives in those large states...everyone is packed into the north, east and west. except for fucking texas. but hopefully, the mexicans will be taking that back soon.
 
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