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I found this whole "Hillary Clinton, Sheryl Crow and Sinbad go to Bosnia" story very funny. And not all that damaging. I am amazed (but I guess I shouldn't be) how serious it has become.
At first it was a joke, but with these new comments, Sen. Clinton is only making it worse. "For the first time in 12 or so years, I misspoke." Give me a break! She didn't mispeak, she lied. And the hell it was the first time in 12 years. She told this story alone on numerous occasions. Now the race is on to find the other instances in the past 12 years when Sen. Clinton "misspoke."
At first it was a joke, but with these new comments, Sen. Clinton is only making it worse. "For the first time in 12 or so years, I misspoke." Give me a break! She didn't mispeak, she lied. And the hell it was the first time in 12 years. She told this story alone on numerous occasions. Now the race is on to find the other instances in the past 12 years when Sen. Clinton "misspoke."
mikeb6452
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Yeah, going as far as saying "I remember...."......I want a President that WILL remember actual details...and don't you think being told to wear a bullet proof vest and run for your car with your teen daughter with you would actually frighten you to really remember it??..
I don't buy it.....and unfortunately I was a Clinton supporter...but now, I'm leaning towards McCain....as an Independent voter.
I hope the democrats don't completely destroy themselves and their party......I really do wish it would end right now....Just put all three on a ticket and let everyone vote and top votegetter is our President...wouldn't that just solve it all and shut everyone up???
I don't buy it.....and unfortunately I was a Clinton supporter...but now, I'm leaning towards McCain....as an Independent voter.
I hope the democrats don't completely destroy themselves and their party......I really do wish it would end right now....Just put all three on a ticket and let everyone vote and top votegetter is our President...wouldn't that just solve it all and shut everyone up???
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I am a human being like everybody else.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/03/25/politics/fromtheroad/entry3966875.shtml
Vanman, this is what she actually said, "Occasionally, I am a human being like everybody else.” (my emphasis)
I'll leave it to posters more creative than I to imagine what she is most of the time.
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I'll wait for the results of the DNA test.
I do hope the Democrats completely destroy their party -- and the Republicans do, too. It's long past time for new blood, for people with principles.
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Clinton under fire
US elections 2008: Hillary's claim that she braved snipers in Bosnia has been exposed as fraudulent, and the media backlash has begun
Dan Kennedy
The Guardian, March 25, 2008 7:00 PM
The last few weeks have been kind to Hillary Clinton - but that's starting to change. Clinton has been caught telling a lie so flagrant, so self-serving and so unnecessary that it takes your breath away. The media are on to her, and they're beginning to unload.
Here's how it unfolded. On March 17, at a speech at George Washington University, Clinton spoke about a terrifying mission to Tuzla, Bosnia that she had undertaken on behalf of her husband, the then-president, in March 1996.
"I remember landing under sniper fire," she said. "There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base." Wow. Now there's a woman you want answering that red phone at 3am.
Except that it never happened. I could quote the comedian Sinbad, who was along for the ride, but let's cut to the chase. There's video from CBS News. It shows Hillary and Chelsea Clinton calmly walking off the plane. They were greeted by various dignitaries, including an eight-year-old Bosnian girl, whom Hillary smilingly embraces. No sniper fire. No heads-down sprint through a hail of bullets. Just the sort of good-will tour a first lady and her daughter might undertake provided there was no danger of anyone's getting hurt.
To make matters worse, Clinton's lie was being exposed just as the tide was starting to shift toward Barack Obama again.
Make no mistake: Obama's candidacy has been permanently diminished now that we know more about his longstanding relationship with his ranting former pastor, the Reverend Jeremiah Wright. But Obama's thoughtful speech on race last week was well received, thus limiting the damage.
Over the weekend, Obama was endorsed by longtime Clinton retainer Bill Richardson, the governor of New Mexico and a representative of two vital constituencies: Latinos and superdelegates. Richardson even had the temerity to suggest that Clinton should get out of the race. That, in turn, led Clinton consigliere James Carville to call Richardson's endorsement an "act of betrayal" worthy of Judas, a remark that caused millions to rack their brains over whether they may have missed any Jesus-like qualities in Hillary Clinton over the years. Of course, it's possible that by the time this ends she'll claim to have walked on water.
Ever since Clinton's victories in Texas and Ohio on March 4, the media had been going easier on her. There's no question they had been relentlessly negative, especially in comparison to Obama. A now-famous Saturday Night Live skit may have goaded them into toughening up their coverage of Obama. Or maybe it was just overdue.
Clinton's Bosnia lie has reminded the media that the Clintons are utterly shameless and will say anything. The Washington Post, declaring that her sniper claim was "simply not credible", bestowed upon her its coveted "Four Pinnochios", a designation reserved for "whoppers". The pro-Obama Jed Report put together a brutal mash-up of Clinton's March 17 remarks and the CBS News footage that had been viewed more than 133,000 times as of Monday evening. It's going to be rough for Clinton this week and perhaps beyond.
Moreover, there's a sense that the media may have overcorrected in their coverage of Obama this month. Just the other day, Fox News host Chris Wallace took a few of his colleagues to task for "somewhat distorting" Obama's characterisation of his grandmother as "a typical white person". When the folks at GOP-TV start fighting among themselves over such things, one can only imagine what the conversation is like in the newsrooms of the so-called liberal media.
By Monday evening, Clinton was saying that she "misspoke" on Bosnia, which, of course, she hadn't. The only credible explanation for her incredible remarks is that she lied and got caught. Frankly, if she really believes she and her then-teenage daughter had come under sniper fire that day in Tuzla - well, on second thought, keep the red phone away from that woman, please.
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/dan_kennedy/2008/03/clinton_under_fire.html
US elections 2008: Hillary's claim that she braved snipers in Bosnia has been exposed as fraudulent, and the media backlash has begun
Dan Kennedy
The Guardian, March 25, 2008 7:00 PM
The last few weeks have been kind to Hillary Clinton - but that's starting to change. Clinton has been caught telling a lie so flagrant, so self-serving and so unnecessary that it takes your breath away. The media are on to her, and they're beginning to unload.
Here's how it unfolded. On March 17, at a speech at George Washington University, Clinton spoke about a terrifying mission to Tuzla, Bosnia that she had undertaken on behalf of her husband, the then-president, in March 1996.
"I remember landing under sniper fire," she said. "There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base." Wow. Now there's a woman you want answering that red phone at 3am.
Except that it never happened. I could quote the comedian Sinbad, who was along for the ride, but let's cut to the chase. There's video from CBS News. It shows Hillary and Chelsea Clinton calmly walking off the plane. They were greeted by various dignitaries, including an eight-year-old Bosnian girl, whom Hillary smilingly embraces. No sniper fire. No heads-down sprint through a hail of bullets. Just the sort of good-will tour a first lady and her daughter might undertake provided there was no danger of anyone's getting hurt.
To make matters worse, Clinton's lie was being exposed just as the tide was starting to shift toward Barack Obama again.
Make no mistake: Obama's candidacy has been permanently diminished now that we know more about his longstanding relationship with his ranting former pastor, the Reverend Jeremiah Wright. But Obama's thoughtful speech on race last week was well received, thus limiting the damage.
Over the weekend, Obama was endorsed by longtime Clinton retainer Bill Richardson, the governor of New Mexico and a representative of two vital constituencies: Latinos and superdelegates. Richardson even had the temerity to suggest that Clinton should get out of the race. That, in turn, led Clinton consigliere James Carville to call Richardson's endorsement an "act of betrayal" worthy of Judas, a remark that caused millions to rack their brains over whether they may have missed any Jesus-like qualities in Hillary Clinton over the years. Of course, it's possible that by the time this ends she'll claim to have walked on water.
Ever since Clinton's victories in Texas and Ohio on March 4, the media had been going easier on her. There's no question they had been relentlessly negative, especially in comparison to Obama. A now-famous Saturday Night Live skit may have goaded them into toughening up their coverage of Obama. Or maybe it was just overdue.
Clinton's Bosnia lie has reminded the media that the Clintons are utterly shameless and will say anything. The Washington Post, declaring that her sniper claim was "simply not credible", bestowed upon her its coveted "Four Pinnochios", a designation reserved for "whoppers". The pro-Obama Jed Report put together a brutal mash-up of Clinton's March 17 remarks and the CBS News footage that had been viewed more than 133,000 times as of Monday evening. It's going to be rough for Clinton this week and perhaps beyond.
Moreover, there's a sense that the media may have overcorrected in their coverage of Obama this month. Just the other day, Fox News host Chris Wallace took a few of his colleagues to task for "somewhat distorting" Obama's characterisation of his grandmother as "a typical white person". When the folks at GOP-TV start fighting among themselves over such things, one can only imagine what the conversation is like in the newsrooms of the so-called liberal media.
By Monday evening, Clinton was saying that she "misspoke" on Bosnia, which, of course, she hadn't. The only credible explanation for her incredible remarks is that she lied and got caught. Frankly, if she really believes she and her then-teenage daughter had come under sniper fire that day in Tuzla - well, on second thought, keep the red phone away from that woman, please.
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/dan_kennedy/2008/03/clinton_under_fire.html
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^ As people say, "Fuck yeah!"
He missed the possibility that she's gone delusional -- but that would still be someone I wouldn't want answering that 3 a.m. phone.
He missed the possibility that she's gone delusional -- but that would still be someone I wouldn't want answering that 3 a.m. phone.
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Thanks SixPack, that answers my question from above. When she's not "occasionally a human being" she's Jesus!
White Eagle
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I swear I thought at first that this was trivial. Now it looks like it could be her undoing. If it doesn't finish her off in the primary, it'll do her in against McCain. How's her "experience" in Bosnia with Sheryl Crow and Sinbad going to look next to a man who spent seven years in a Vietnamese prison cell?
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Now she wants reporters to "Lighten up."
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=ap5lq52KkZRk
Also, and this is more curiosity, Do people, even politicians, really speak "millions of words a day," as Sen. Clinton claims in the above article?
I found one study that found average men and women speak about 16,000 per day.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=3348076&page=1
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=ap5lq52KkZRk
Also, and this is more curiosity, Do people, even politicians, really speak "millions of words a day," as Sen. Clinton claims in the above article?
I found one study that found average men and women speak about 16,000 per day.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=3348076&page=1
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Very good point. I can sense the 527 ads being edited right now just in case she gets the nomination.
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Self-destructing. She misspeaks once every 12 years. A pulitzer to the reporter or blog that puts the lie to that lie. The second part goes without comment.
If this is the best this tough tested ready person can do, she is the weakest candidate possible and unfit for the presidency.
I am a human being like everybody else.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/03/25/politics/fromtheroad/entry3966875.shtml
she is a human. funny title. i didn't read the link but let me guess, u are her supporter correct ??
construct
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If I'm not mistaken, vanman has self-identified as a Republican.
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this is beginning to look and sound like a group of homosexual Republicans who are ready to put McCain in the White House for a least four more years of the past seven years.
maybe you should be watching Frontline - Part 2 on Bush's War tonight.
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TierraSimms
The Notorious C.U.N.T.
This is coming from another woman, she is a lying succubus bitch with a god-like superiority complex.
TierraSimms
The Notorious C.U.N.T.
There she goes again playing mind games. You get caught in a cockamamy lie and respond to people to "lighten up". All I can say is WOW, WOW, WOW.
