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Hillary's Bosnia Trip & Controversy [MERGED]

Re: Hillary's Incredible Deceit Exposed

Which layers of self-deception are your favorites?
:D ;) :mad: :grrr: :gogirl: (!) :wave: :rolleyes: :eek: :cool: :-)
 
Re: Hillary's Incredible Deceit Exposed

You shouldn't complain if innocent people are executed.
 
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Clinton may have exaggerated on the campaign trail, however she did visit a dangerous area where there had been sniper activity in the hills surrounding the airport. This is an old story, Mrs. Clinton wrote about it her book and the campaign remark may just be an over dramatization. Big Deal!

Sinbad is an Obama supporter and this is just another effort by the Obama campaign to change the subject from Rev Wright.
 
Re: Hillary's Incredible Deceit Exposed

Kulindahr said:
She she she was being shot at.
All the evidence says she wasn't.



In normal human affairs, this is called "lying".
If it isn't lying, then it's delusional ideation.
Either way, we have a presidential candidate who isn't connected to the truth.
Q.E.D.
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I think if we were all being honest with ourselves...this can be said of BOTH candidates...both have outright lied and have had delusional stories.
 
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ICO7 said:
You shouldn't assume that she's always honest and right. This instance has nothing to do with criminal proceedings either.
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Oh...I just thought you thought that it did...silly me!
 
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Kurn said:
Use your imagination, Kuli. The comments still could fit the scraps of facts presented.

It's still a lie to call her a liar.
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No, it isn't.
She said one thing, the truth is another.

Maybe if I was on drugs and believed people could slip from one parallel universe to another..... #-o
 
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iman said:
Clinton may have exaggerated on the campaign trail, however she did visit a dangerous area where there had been sniper activity in the hills surrounding the airport. This is an old story, Mrs. Clinton wrote about it her book and the campaign remark may just be an over dramatization. Big Deal!

Sinbad is an Obama supporter and this is just another effort by the Obama campaign to change the subject from Rev Wright.
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You know, Iman, if this had been Obama with such blatant proof of LYING with the same exact facts put forth, you would have probably had a brain anyurism frantically typing some shit calling for the end of Obama's campaign.
 
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ryankeith said:
I think if we were all being honest with ourselves...this can be said of BOTH candidates...both have outright lied and have had delusional stories.
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You know, my ex tried to pull that bullshit logic on me when he got caught cheating. Saying we had both done things wrong and I pushed him to do it. This is about one person, Hillary, caught in a fucking bold faced lie. The MSM better be all over this next week.
 
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Kulindahr said:
No, it isn't.
She said one thing, the truth is another.

Maybe if I was on drugs and believed people could slip from one parallel universe to another..... #-o
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Intentional prevarication? Can't affirmatively be asserted.
Tuzla airport sniping...sniping all over B-H was a problem back then. I remember the news. The important fact is that she looks as statesman-like as she does when at any moment a high-powered rifle might speak up.
I don't think there is anything here to refute what is largely a matter of emotional perception. If you weren't there you don't know what you were talking about. And if you were there and saw Hillary so unafraid, you might forget the snipers. 'If she is, I guess I should.'
There is a great admixture of dishonorableness in people's attitudes towards this fellow American and we need to stop it. The crapaganda against this woman is just anti-American crapaganda.
Kuli, we the people are becoming Tom, Dick and Give-me-a-Blowjob. Cynicism, cynicism. It's not you, guy, as much as the swamp gas we live in.
 
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We're talking about an incident that's on film.
Hillary's out there with a bunch of other people, and she hugs a little girl. If there had been any sniper fire, that would have been cancelled; the welcome would have been put somewhere secure.
 
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I don't even know why people try to EXPOSE Hillary anymore you are not going to find any new Hillary haters and you are not going to change those who do like her. It is a waste of your energy and time.

As for Obama and lieing the reason people would call for the end of his campaign is because he runs on the image that he is is Perfect and so much better and above evryone else. He has had the perfect although short political carreer. With that type of image if he had lied then his entire image and message would not mean shit. Hillary does not run on that she admits mistakes and trys to fix them in many ways. With all of Obamas talk about being "The guy to get it right the first time" I see him beign very simialar Bush in the way that niether of them know how to admitt a mistake and go about fixing it. Instead they would rather cling to there decesion no matter how wrong it was until they died but I digress.

As for Obama and lieing he says That he went to the same Church for 20 years and had this guy as a clsoe friend and is not his prime religious adviser and he had no idea even if he didn't know about the Sermons in particular that this guy said these things. I have a hard time believing that and that makes me question his credebility. I don't even care about the association with this man but I do care abotu him saing that he did not know. That sounds like a lie to me and if it isn't he need to do much more research itno people that he says has had taht much influence into his life.
 
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ICO7 said:
I swear, of all the people here with tortured logic, you've long since moved past waterboarding and embracing devices for a Spanish Inquisition approach.
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I assure you, my logic is not tortured. I left the bed of torture long ago.
It has to do with adopting a view of life and politics that is nature-centered.
I see that in Mr. Obama.
He needs to wait. More experience is essential.
 
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Kulindahr said:
We're talking about an incident that's on film.
Hillary's out there with a bunch of other people, and she hugs a little girl. If there had been any sniper fire, that would have been cancelled; the welcome would have been put somewhere secure.
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If the security personnel explain to her after deplaning that sniper fire was estimated to be at minimal risk at that moment, it would account for the insouciance in the film. The others in the airport party, the Bosnians, being used to the situation, would also clue her in to the relative safety of the moment by their behavior.
 
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Soramaro said:
As for Obama and lieing the reason people would call for the end of his campaign is because he runs on the image that he is is Perfect and so much better and above evryone else. He has had the perfect although short political career. With that type of image if he had lied then his entire image and message would not mean shit. Hillary does not run on that. She admits mistakes and trys to fix them in many ways. With all of Obamas talk about being "The guy to get it right the first time" I see him beign very simialar Bush in the way that niether of them know how to admitt a mistake and go about fixing it. Instead they would rather cling to there decesion no matter how wrong it was until they died but I digress.
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You have got to be kidding me.
 
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Midnight77 said:
You have got to be kidding me.
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Not really I mean yeah there are times when she is about as stubborn as anyone else ( the vote for Iraq). However even though she won't call that a mistake she is trying to fix the situation. She admitted that she messed up the first time she worked for Universal healthcare and I see her as much more likely to do exactly what I said before. Fix her mistakes.
Obama has put himselft in thposition where he is going to be the candidate to get it right THE FIRST TIME EVERY TIME and that is just a stupid position to put yourself in. Even I know that everybody does not get it right the first time and I don't expect them to. It is what they do after they mess up that I pay attention to. I am not making this up he gives the speeches where he says this stuff and I wonder how he is going to say these thing during his campaign and then not sick to his "I will get it right the first time" idea. If he does not that would make him a liar and we all know how much he does not want to be a liar.

A man who thinks he gets everything right the first time is a very dangerous many in any position of authority especially as President. Just look at George W. Bush.
 
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My God!! We just went thru 7 years with a pathological liar as a president and y'all want another one?
 
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White Eagle said:
My God!! We just went thru 7 years with a pathological liar as a president and y'all want another one?
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NO, NO, NO.
I wouldn't want old war monger McCain or lying Hillary.... but, if she pulls it off
and becomes the Dem nominee, then I'd have to hold my nose and support her... the lesser
of the two evils.
 
Re: Hillary's Incredible Deceit Exposed

Hillary Clinton lied about Tuzla. She lied about it to make people believe in her qualifications to handle national crises. If she sells her Tuzla greeting as a harrowing encounter with death, what other delusions would she try to sell us as President?
 
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