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Hillary's Bosnia Trip & Controversy [MERGED]

Re: Hillary's Incredible Deceit Exposed

There are posters that I do so wish would comment on this!
 
Re: Hillary's Incredible Deceit Exposed

A few random comments;


OK, I did some quick research. Here's what Her Royal Clintoness told her audience, at an appearance with Secretary of the Army Togo West: and if this doesn't put B.S. to the line, I don't know what will:

I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.

So..the plane carrying the First Lady and First Daughter of the US not only actually proceeded to land on an airstrip when there was sniper fire, but the Secret Service actually allowed them to deplane out in the open and run for the vehicles?

Oh, yeah, that's plausible.
And if the plane was so far into its landing pattern it had to land, wouldn't they have simply held everyone on the plane? Or had it take off again?

I think she's been caught in yet another whopper.


Aborted Landing

If the plane was in danger of coming under sniper fire upon landing, the pilot would have aborted the landing and performed a "touch and go." This is where the pilot applies full power and takes off again without bringing the plane to a full stop. This is a battle maneuver that the pilots practice time and time again. I actually witnessed this type of maneuver when I was stationed in Germany in the late 80's.

Only a Clinton would fabricate a story like that, expecting it to fly, when there is video available to contradict it. Not only of them walking casually across the tarmac, but the bunch of them, including the local dignitaries and the little girl, are obviously standing around outside (the "greeting on the tarmac?)

The only thing missing is her trademark surprised recognition and wave to someone in the crowd!! LOL

As soon as I read this POS I called my son (stationed in Ft Hood) if this were indeed true. He was there when she showed up in Bosnia, he said it did not happen, if it had happened they would have had a "frago" or in other words an escalation of force. They did not.

But to second what another poster wrote here, my son said they could not have missed her humongus butt. With a pea shooter.


Is this a prelude for her wanting a Medal of Honor for her herotic actions!

Besides she was in bed with Bill when that phone rang! it must qualitfy her for the Presidency right!

She will not stop at anything.....

the truth rests in the fact that ...
it took 12 years and her standing in a presidential race before this tidbit of information was brought forward. if it were true, she would have milked it for all it was worth years ago. nice try hill.

This would make a great campaign commercial. Audio of Hitlary describing her phony experience, over video of the actual! Maybe just on Comedy Central would be better. Are there any youtube people working on this?


Does anyone know where Bill was that day? Did he cover this up?


Will Obama's supporters in the MSM call Hillary out on this?

I t will be rather interesting to see if they actually do.

You would think they would recognize Obama's need for a diversion of some kind, given the unfortunate events of this weekend, not to mention today.


Too bad one of the "snipers" wasn't a better shot.....

Well, you know how it is when you're sitting around with your buds, tossing back a few cold ones, telling war stories. ..|

:lol:

But wait! :eek:

Isn't she running for POTUS?

:rotflmao:

Honestly, I can't wait for Senator Obama to tell us one of his war stories!

..|

Like the time when he ignored phone calls from his constituency about some slum lord in South Chicago!

Oooh! That's some tough shit! :bartshock

:lol:

/end sarcasm
 
Re: Hillary's Incredible Deceit Exposed

Hillary"s lie should " by all rights " eliminate her from this primary race. If she is somehow able to become the Democratic candidate, she will be far too vulnerable to GOP attacks on her honesty " and nobody wants a bold faced liar as a president. What is more, her lies are caught on film. Can"t you just imagine the 60 second GOP spot: footage of HRC receiving flowers from a little Bosnian girl juxtaposed with her recent speech at George Washington University stating that she had to run across the tarmac dodging sniper fire? This would sink her campaign overnight. She has rendered herself unelectable.
 
Re: Hillary's Incredible Deceit Exposed

She has rendered herself unelectable.

This sentence clearly explains why the American voter, still continues to vote for Hillary. Time will tell. For in the tallying of the vote, we will know whether Hillary is as unelectable, as some would have us believe.
 
I did not have a ceremony on that tarmac...
...because I was running for cover...

just as Bill never said sex with that woman.

Well today her campaign has admitted that she "misspoke" and that includes a "misspeak" in her book -

those of us of a certain age remember when Nixon was always saying that he "misspoke."

But then since bringing her child, Sinbad, and Sheryl Crow into combat zones is such an everyday event for Sen. Clinton, you can see how easy it is to misspeak when you have the active life of GI Hilliary. Then we have the confusion about how many times she has "misspoke" but what th hell... note how when questioned she "misspeaks" again

hubris, Mrs Clinton, hubris

if I screwed up the NY Times youtube links you can get them off the article as linked

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/...-trip-campaign-says/index.html?nl=pol&emc=pol

Clinton ‘Misspoke’ About Bosnia Trip, Campaign Says

By Katharine Q. Seelye

The Clinton campaign says Senator Hillary Clinton may have “misspoke” recently when she said she had to evade sniper fire when she was visiting Bosnia in 1996 as first lady.

She has been using the episode as an example of her foreign policy bona fides.

“I certainly do remember that trip to Bosnia,” she said last week. “There was a saying around the White House that if a place was too small, too poor, or too dangerous, the president couldn’t go, so send the First Lady.

“I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.”

But her account has been challenged, first by Sinbad, the comedian, who traveled with her, and then by news organizations, most notably the Washington Post, which awarded her four “Pinnochios” which it gives for major “whoppers.”

A number of videos have been posted to YouTube juxtaposing a CBS news report with Mrs. Clinton’s statements last week:



And here is another report from that trip:



Asked today to square her recent descriptions with these accounts, Howard Wolfson, her spokesman, referred to several contemporaneous news accounts that described the region as hostile. He then added: “It is possible in the most recent instance in which she discussed this that she misspoke in regard to the exit from the plane, but there is no question if you look at contemporaneous accounts that she was going to a potential combat zone, that she was on the front lines.”

Asked at a later point in the call to clarify his comment, Mr. Wolfson said that news accounts at the time made clear that the area in which she was landing was “a potential combat zone and was hazardous.”

He said that in her memoir, “Living History,” she wrote about sniper fire in the hills and “clearly meant to say that” when she brought it up last week. He said she had described the event many times the same way and that “in one instance she said it slightly differently.”

A third reporter then asked about it, prompting Mr. Howard to read the relevant passage from her book, in which she wrote: “Due to reports of snipers in the hills around the airstrip, we were forced to cut short an event on the tarmac with local children.” He repeated that this was the one time in which she misspoke.

But this formulation was at least the second time in recent weeks that she described the sniper fire. She mentioned it on Feb. 29 in Waco, Tex., when she was rolling out her “red phone” commercial, recalling the trip to Bosnia and saying that the welcoming ceremony “had to be moved inside because of sniper fire.”
 
Re: I did not have a ceremony on that tarmac...

We don't need another lying liar in the White House;

this is from Bill Clinton back in his own campaigning days…

"If one candidate is trying to scare you and the other one is trying to get you to think, if one candidate is appealing to your fears and the other one is appealing to your hopes, you better vote for the person who wants you to think and hope."
 
Re: Hillary's Incredible Deceit Exposed

That's not a greeting ceremony.
Ceremonially-speaking, that was a run to the cars.
Stopping to say hello to the little girl is not a greeting ceremony.
It's 'saying-hello to the brave little girl.'
There is only minor exaggeration if any.
 
Re: I did not have a ceremony on that tarmac...

^That is actually when Bill Clinton said that. It was in support of Kerry.
 
Re: I did not have a ceremony on that tarmac...

There is only apparent exaggeration. There isn't any lying.

A lot of slander in the air in 2008.
It's the politics of change as usual!!!! Hip-hip-hooray!!
 
Re: I did not have a ceremony on that tarmac...

^ I think that's a great statement actually. Would've been nice to hear repeated in '04, imo, even if Kerry was an incompetent buffoon.

ICO, you're too kind to Kerry.
 
Re: I did not have a ceremony on that tarmac...

Every time I hear, "Hillary Clinton, Sheryl Crow and Sinbad went to Bosnia ...." I laugh. It's a joke looking for a punchline and now Sen. Clinton has supplied it.
 
Re: I did not have a ceremony on that tarmac...

The difference between her description and the actual footage is so stark that she's either lying or delusional. I'll go with delusional; she's probably rehearsed the incident in her mind and embellished a bit each time until the version she imagines is the real one in her head.

We've had a half-dozen years of delusional administration -- do we really want more?
 
Re: I did not have a ceremony on that tarmac...

Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies.

Isnt that the same band as the campaign songs????
 
Re: I did not have a ceremony on that tarmac...

In that 2nd clip, Is she wearing a bullet proof vest under that coat? It would seem they would wear them back in them days like they do now.
It would also seem that bullets would be fired at all those soldiers, and none of them were ducking. Sounds like McCains tour of Baghdad to me.
 
Lying Bitch!

I don't generally like to refer to women as bitches, but that particular appelation seems to fit Mrs. Clinton rather appropriately. She can't even tell the truth about her trip to Bosnia in 1996. Here she is caught in a bald faced lie. I really have no use for this lying bitch, anymore!..|

 
Hillary Bosnia trip/lie EXPOSED by CBS (Video)

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Hillary you might be able to fool your supporters and change your positions on things without being called out on it, but you can't full the Republicans and Independents and sensible Democracts that see right through you.

A guy who actually went to Bosnia at the trip said "the scariest part [about the trip] was figuring out what to eat next."
 
Re: I did not have a ceremony on that tarmac...

Yet Hillary will still be defended to the death by those who question the ferocity of support of some Obama supporters....pot hasn't obviously met kettle yet,if ever they will.The snottiness and arrogance and intellectually dishonest pretzel twists of illogic that some of the Hillary-ettes in defense of a woman using her marital connection to a popular former president above all to get a running headstart to the presidency(The self-centered sense of entitlement is more calculated and far more nauseating than the much more politically improbable Obama story).

Hillary brandished her foreign policy credentials by outright lying.If she was Christopher Dodd,Joe Biden,John Kerry....she would be facing outright ridicule and disbelief regarding her chutzpah.

I would vote for her over John McCain as the lesser of two evils because I think John McCain has regressed tremendously in terms of his character in moving to come closer to the right who wish to keep a stranglehold on Republican politics....so much for his vaunted maverick idol status of old.He is more likely to get America involved in another war of dubious merit,after we have spent hundreds of billions on wars that seem to have no end and we hasve so many problems at home to look to solve...Hillary knows she would face a party rebellion if she moved toward a war with Iran with no real justification or long term understanding of possible outcomes.I do not hate Hillary Clinton,though in no way do I feel there is reason to trust her...she has been too disingenuous or too manipulative and controlling of what goes on around her for me not to feel anything but unease around the prospect of a Hillary presidency,like her reckless disregard for the truth in an effort to shine up her credentials.

I wish that her most ardent supporters would take off their rose-garden colored glasses and just be honest about Hillary's clearly less than admirable traits.She may make a good president,and I will vote for her if she is the Democratic nominee...but I don't think just because her last name by marriage is Clinton,she gets to prtray herself as something she clearly is not.
 
Re: I did not have a ceremony on that tarmac...

I wish that her most ardent supporters would take off their rose-garden colored glasses and just be honest about Hillary's clearly less than admirable traits.She may make a good president,and I will vote for her if she is the Democratic nominee...but I don't think just because her last name by marriage is Clinton,she gets to prtray herself as something she clearly is not.

Well, that depends on what the meaning of "is" is. :p
 
Re: I did not have a ceremony on that tarmac...

I wish that her most ardent supporters would take off their rose-garden colored glasses and just be honest about Hillary's clearly less than admirable traits.She may make a good president,and I will vote for her if she is the Democratic nominee...but I don't think just because her last name by marriage is Clinton,she gets to prtray herself as something she clearly is not.

I think that process has now begun. And this latest stunt with her claims of dodging bullets in Bosnia didn't help her case, whatsoever.

Now, today, she says she "misspoke" about it. :rolleyes:

The only problem was that she stated that she dodged bullets on this trip several times, and even wrote about it.

http://www.comcast.net/news/articles/general/2008/03/24/Clinton.Bosnia/


Clinton 'Misspoke' About '96 Bosnia Trip


Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign said she "misspoke" last week when saying she had landed under sniper fire during a trip to Bosnia as first lady in March 1996. She later characterized the episode as a "misstatement" and a "minor blip."

The Obama campaign suggested the statement was a deliberate exaggeration by Clinton, who often cites the goodwill trip with her daughter and several celebrities as an example of her foreign policy experience.

During a speech last Monday on Iraq, she said of the Bosnia trip: "I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base."

According to an Associated Press story at the time, Clinton was placed under no extraordinary risks on the trip. And one of her companions, comedian Sinbad, told The Washington Post he has no recollection either of the threat or reality of gunfire.

When asked Monday about the New York senator's remarks about the trip, Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson pointed to Clinton's written account of it in her book, "Living History," in which she described a shortened welcoming ceremony at Tuzla Air Base, Bosnia-Herzegovina.

"Due to reports of snipers in the hills around the airstrip, we were forced to cut short an event on the tarmac with local children, though we did have time to meet them and their teachers and to learn how hard they had worked during the war to continue classes in any safe spot they could find," Clinton wrote.

"That is what she wrote in her book," Wolfson said. "That is what she has said many, many times and on one occasion she misspoke."

Asked about the issue during a meeting with the Philadelphia Daily News' editorial board on Monday, Clinton said she "misspoke."

"I went to 80 countries, you know. I gave contemporaneous accounts, I wrote about a lot of this in my book. You know, I think that, a minor blip, you know, if I said something that, you know, I say a lot of things — millions of words a day — so if I misspoke, that was just a misstatement," she said.
 
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