Hip Hop And Takeing The Homphobia Out!!!

[hatemeorloveme]

how could we be able to get a bond with the hip hop kulture today im sick of hereing kill you faggot and stuff like that we need to have them visualize our lifes and let them notice that we are beings too and that we are going through problems just as they are and they need to step it up to the situation because its not fair! we should be treated respectfully. "aint" that what they rap about i mean come on ur makeing money off of us we adore your music but go out of the line on some song you did for some radio station or producer whos getting you on the beat to talk shit about our gay bi and lesbian communtiy and even the cabinent wont accpet gay marriage on all states. we need to step up harder than over the years. i dont want to sound read but its pathetic we need for everyone to love each other and i dont give a shit if it was adam and eve or obama and hillery clinton who begun it i want justice for our people and we should get it. just like nancy grace. hell i have just started becomeing bi and comein out slow to public before my friend but dont be trying to school me on something. i want positive answers comeing out of all you on this topic. and not just hip hop practicly everything on this earth should respect us just as we do them, itss wornng... (((

i mean i listen to a bunch of my favorite rapper tonight or early morning how ever you wanna call it but ya im listein to the mixtapes bumpin my head to the beat as i do and shit i here trash talk on us. hell ill fight everyone of them rapper and get em straight if that what i gotta do. i dont care if there joe boxer ass type person ima give them a beat down.

so who agrees.

 

[sabot3ur]

The whole "hip hop is so homophobic" tagline is overexaggerated. It may have a cold attitude towards gay people in general, but most rappers aren't Eminem and spend little to no time bothering to tear gays down. Hip hop largely shies away from the subject matter of homosexuality in general.

then how come I hear "no homo" and "faggot ass motherfucker" in every other song?

it doesn't really bother me though, because hip hop is filled with lots of silly customs and people... the chains and the clothes, popping pills, doing coke, spending money on completely pointless shit, not being able to pronounce words properly... popular rap music is like a caricature of "real" hip hop and usually has nothing important to say.

I only listen to three six mafia for the lulz.

 

[hatemeorloveme]

....who can read what you wrote?

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lol i was little drunk when writeing this last night. forgve

 

[marshbrochill]

couple examples to the contrary:
google 'Earsnot,' he's a New York graffiti artist. he's openly gay.
Eminem? perfomining with Elton John?
i was just reading Kanye West's wikipedia page, and there's an article about how he has a gay cousin or something and started being more open to it all now...

 

[davy]

The whole "hip hop is so homophobic" tagline is overexaggerated. It may have a cold attitude towards gay people in general, but most rappers aren't Eminem and spend little to no time bothering to tear gays down. Hip hop largely shies away from the subject matter of homosexuality in general.

if you haven't already, i think you're going to find that everyone here's already made up his mind about rap or hip hop

 

[MrBarbrey]

how could we be able to get a bond with the hip hop kulture today im sick of hereing kill you faggot and stuff like that we need to have them visualize our lifes and let them notice that we are beings too and that we are going through problems just as they are and they need to step it up to the situation because its not fair! we should be treated respectfully. "aint" that what they rap about i mean come on ur makeing money off of us we adore your music but go out of the line on some song you did for some radio station or producer whos getting you on the beat to talk shit about our gay bi and lesbian communtiy and even the cabinent wont accpet gay marriage on all states. we need to step up harder than over the years. i dont want to sound read but its pathetic we need for everyone to love each other and i dont give a shit if it was adam and eve or obama and hillery clinton who begun it i want justice for our people and we should get it. just like nancy grace. hell i have just started becomeing bi and comein out slow to public before my friend but dont be trying to school me on something. i want positive answers comeing out of all you on this topic. and not just hip hop practicly everything on this earth should respect us just as we do them, itss wornng... (((

i mean i listen to a bunch of my favorite rapper tonight or early morning how ever you wanna call it but ya im listein to the mixtapes bumpin my head to the beat as i do and shit i here trash talk on us. hell ill fight everyone of them rapper and get em straight if that what i gotta do. i dont care if there joe boxer ass type person ima give them a beat down.

so who agrees.

you forgot to add no homo




but on a real note bro if somebody says alot of homphobic stuff chances are they just havent came out yet so you may never know your fav homphobic might just be gay

 

[sabot3ur]

like lil wayne!

no doubt in my mind, hahaha.

 

[MrBarbrey]

Him and baby both are

 

[corvuspirit]

I for one will celebrate the day hiphop & rap dies and men can go back to wearing short shorts, be proud of uncovering their bodies, and music can again be about musicians and not poser poetry...I cannot think of one redeemable thing that this cultural shift has done for our country or the world at large.

 

[corvuspirit]

'pop music' has always been a thorn in anyone's side who enjoys a talented musician...it precedes rap music by decades.

'on the radio' is the only access anyone unfamiliar with the genre has aside from spending a lot of money on hit & miss.

my head is not up my ass JY...guys my age do remember when the fashion, music, and culture went to this gangster urban trend - the mid 80's. ever since there is little reason to tune into any media that would be deemed main stream - it has all been dummied down, dragged down by the hip hop dollar

 

[corvuspirit]

for the societal wide ugliness of fashion, language, etc...pop music doesn't have that much clout.

i would suggest you try to communicate without the need to be part of that ugliness...it doesn't take much imagination to be hateful. i am only expressing the opinion of a 43 year old man who has lived through this era and laments it ever arriving.

 

[AllAmericanTwink]

Well, There are gay rappers out there. Deadlee did a song with Pastor Troy. Though PT doesn't like admitting it, he thinks deadlee has very good sense of rhythym.
I am gay and I have mixtapes out. I am a part of a group called Young & Conceited and they have absolutely no idea I'm gay. But none of my lyrics talk about haivng sex with a girl or no homo or none of that. I am working on a song right now that will be on our upcoming mixtape "Reality is more". I will giv e a preview of it if you want.

The hair on the queen so long and sleek/
Body quit amazing with a good phisique//
But when the lights go on and the music starts/
5 inch stillettoes is stiff on Mizz Stephana's arch//
The crowd throws money on the ground in front/
It's the 5 minute fame that starts and ends all at once//
But when it's over and Stephana heads right backstage/
The makeup and eyelashes come off to reveal true age//
The show glimpses of the good life Stephana belives in/
But when it's all said and done Stephana is really Steven//


I haven't completed it yet. This is just a really rough copy, but they just thought it was a great twist. The rest of Young & Conceited are really narrow minded and I guess homophobic. With NO idea of what a drag queen is or anything. Y'all probably got it right at first, but it'll be definitely something different out there.

 

[MrBarbrey]

for the societal wide ugliness of fashion, language, etc...pop music doesn't have that much clout.

i would suggest you try to communicate without the need to be part of that ugliness...it doesn't take much imagination to be hateful. i am only expressing the opinion of a 43 year old man who has lived through this era and laments it ever arriving.

you know i think they might be another reason

 

[sabot3ur]

as for *good* hip hop and not talentless pop music, try Sage Francis, Aesop Rock, Dead Prez, MF Doom, Madvillain etc etc.

I dare you to call them untalented!

 

[spiderhead]

Really? Do people still listen to Hip Hop? Hmmmm..........

 

[fireside]

May have been done, may not have, but:

Hip-Hop and Rap are two separate things.

I know this might alarm some of you who would like to group the two under one umbrella, but unfortunately such isn't the case. You can't put your Gym Class Heroes with your Lil Waynes, your Blackaliciouses with your Young Jeezys. You just can't group the two; one sect strives for the almighty dollar by promoting an image that has, regrettably, become popular amongst young urbanites; the other strives to just get a message out. There are crossroads where the two intersect, don't get me wrong. It's just that to stay true to hip-hop is to stay true to the expansion of mind and community with relevance to self, rather than to promote self above any and all other.

That being said, it's not like death metal's all about homos either, but that doesn't stop me from listening to it. The problem starts when people read their bibles and misinterpret what they've read, or when preachers misinterpret it and teach that to the masses (large reason I'm atheist; it happens in so many religions including and outside Christianity). Homophobia will not go away as long as religion is as tied to the American existence as it is. We'll make dents here and there, but as the public gets noticeably stupider we'll start to see ourselves lose a lot of the ground we've gained.

 

[headstart]

Is it even about the music/genre or the actual artist? Seems like too many of you are confusing music with the artists personal views. I can take the same "homophobic" rap track and play the instrumental and it will still be just as urban and hip hop as ever. The music aint the prob, its some of the people singing over it.

 

[G-Lexington]

Just keeping supporting those that do it right.



Lex

 

[954dude]

Any form of discrimination in art is inexcusable. I've heard hurtful things in rap songs about homosexuality, sexism, weight, race, etc. None of it has any merit.

On a more personal note, as a Jamaican, I'm disappointed in dancehall and what it's become today. No more great lyrical content and now it's become overtly homophobic. I'm a proud Jamaican bisexual who will never support dancehall artist with these disgusting lyrics.

 

[Terrance]

Rap USED to be about respect - in the 70's and 80's. Now it's(the MAINSTREAM) about which girl can swallow a coke bottle while shaking her ass at 20mph and then giving the whole "team" head while they smoke and drink Petron and pop pills and drive expensive flashy cars and buy jewelry that costs more than your house and wear white tees that look like dresses and wear sneakers that look like my cousin got all his neon crayons out and went to town on them...

I just have to say, you are my hero for saying that <3

I could not have said it better. xD