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Hollywood and their bad ideas

Raven03

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First Underdog now this:

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Sad but true.](*,) Dont know what Jason Lee was thinking attaching himself to this.
 
Oh God! They changed the chipmonks into gangstas! Dear Lord will the insanity ever end?

mikey
 
Because we're robots, and we'll fork over $10 to go see it.

Hollywood's ideas may look stupid as hell, bu t the studios are still in business.

Lex
 
I don't mind ideas that show at least some intelligence, or have something fun about them, and I know that even the best ideas can die at the box office. However, ideas like this (take an old character, make it current) seem to have a greater chance of dying horribly, and it seems that only the die-hard fans buy the tickets and DVD's.

It's fine with ideas that you don't take too seriously (like Scooby Doo), but for something like Alvin and The Chipmunks, which people liked for its earnesty (or attempt thereof), updating it usually kills it...

RG
 
>>>It's fine with ideas that you don't take too seriously (like Scooby Doo), but for something like Alvin and The Chipmunks, which people liked for its earnesty (or attempt thereof), updating it usually kills it...

I'm sorry, are you actually saying that the Chipmunks were taken more seriously than Scooby Doo?

Yes, I love good ideas. But one cardinal rule of movie making is "if they liked it once, they'll like it again". Thus, every successful movie gets a sequel (Norbit 2!), every older successful movie gets a remake, and absolutely everything from our youth is plundered for a movie. Even such almost-forgotten items as "Car 54 Where Are You?" got the movie treatment, in the hopes that enough people liked it that it'd make money. That particular one didn't, as it turns out. That's a rarity.

Yes, originality would be great. But Hollywood doesn't reward originality. It rewards profit. Playing it safe is playing it smart. Which is why there was a Voltron preview before the Transformers movie. :)

Lex
 
Maybe that can go on a double bill with the ALF movie. "Ha! He'll KILL you!" :D

Lex
 
G-Lexington said:
>>>It's fine with ideas that you don't take too seriously (like Scooby Doo), but for something like Alvin and The Chipmunks, which people liked for its earnesty (or attempt thereof), updating it usually kills it...

I'm sorry, are you actually saying that the Chipmunks were taken more seriously than Scooby Doo?
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Note: Goofy vs. Earnest. Not Serious vs. Not-so-serious. Chipmunks had the feel of an Andy Hardy movie, that feeling that it was supposed to be good, wholesome, and fun, as opposed to Scooby, which was just plain goofy (how many drug jokes did you make about the show?).

And I definitely feel for the producers. I just have to look at the webcomics. and how many ideas out there that are just re-hashes of some manga or satire of something else...and when everyone goes for a satire without understanding what makes the source material work, it gets stupid quick...

RG
 
>>>Note: Goofy vs. Earnest. Not Serious vs. Not-so-serious. Chipmunks had the feel of an Andy Hardy movie, that feeling that it was supposed to be good, wholesome, and fun, as opposed to Scooby, which was just plain goofy (how many drug jokes did you make about the show?).

I don't know about all that. I don't want to spend too much brain power defending the Scooby Doo show, but it was certainly meant as a straight-up kids mystery show, not as some sly "look-what-we're-getting-away-with-here" sort of thing. Yes, there were a lot more knowing jokes about Scooby Doo than about the Chipmunks, but then again, Scooby Doo was (in my circle anyway) a LOT more popular. And I HAVE actually heard "knowing jokes" about the Chipmunks as well, mostly dealing with what kind of man Mr Seville is for pushing three sentient animals into a recording deal but not even bothering to buy them pants.

But you're right about the entire genre. Someone thinks "Hey, people liked this as a kid. Maybe they'll like it as a movie." Fine. But it's like the thought ends there. They don't seem interested in what was we, who liked this stuff in our youth, might actually want to SEE in said movie. The idea is that if you build it, they will come. And sadly, it appears to be the case.

...Am I the only one who thinks the logo for the Chipmunks film looks PRECISELY like every logo for every Eddie Murphy film in the last twenty years?

Lex
 
Hollywood totally ruined Garfield. I read the comic strip every day, literally. I love Garfield as if he were my own pet. What we got on the big screen was NOT Garfield.

Looks like they'll be doing the same thing to Alvin and the Chipmunks
 
G-Lexington said:
Because we're robots, and we'll fork over $10 to go see it.

Hollywood's ideas may look stupid as hell, bu t the studios are still in business.

Lex
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Don't blame me. They haven't gotten a dime from me in years. ;)
But you know, I read some reactions to movies, even on this board, and so many people seem to be completely satisfied with mediocrity.
 
>>>But you know, I read some reactions to movies, even on this board, and so many people seem to be completely satisfied with mediocrity.

Precisely so. I have a friend who is probably the smartest guy I know. Not just learned, but really quick-witted and a great thinker. He and I discuss everything from science to popular culture. Recently, we were discussing the current crop of films, and I suggested Ratatouille to him. He said, "I'm just waiting for Transformers to come out."

This floored me, since it was so out of character. I asked if he was aware of all the problems of the film - boring first 45 minutes, "hipping" up the characters, pee jokes. He responded, "Doesn't matter. Giant robots. Hitting each other. I'm there."

As I said, they're still in business for a reason. :)

Lex
 
G-Lexington said:
Maybe that can go on a double bill with the ALF movie. "Ha! He'll KILL you!" :D

Lex
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Alf?

Oh, fuck no, please!

Then I'd rather they make a movie with Alf and Garfield together. At least one of the franchises would get killed off.
 
My bf was like, "who's underdog?" They should have done cgi not use a real dog. Movie people are clueless to what the public wants!
 
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