Homophobic Local News...What NOT to buy HER for Valentine's Day.

[looseliam]

I remember four, five years ago when I was listening to this rock station in Buffalo (103.3) and one phoned these two guys in an evening show about why some guys are gay. They explained that homosexuality is caused either by a thinner build or a Jewish mother. Funnier is how my dad was listening at the same time and believed them.

Hopefully they got fired, but then it's Buffalo.

Ahhh, this explains it!! Somehow, I know it was my mother's fault! And now I can't wait to tell her!
one more thing she can feel guilty about

 

[blackbeltninja]

Look, I'll pitch in my 2 cents' worth and then get my asbestos jacket out of storage...

Having done the DVD rental store stint to cover some expenses at the time of the big BBM craze of 2005-2006, I can guarantee you that couples coming into the store to choose a move DO NOT tend to gravitate towards BBM.

In order of occurrence: sometimes (most often) only the guy is uncomfortable with it, sometimes the girl is, sometimes they're both uncomfortable and sometimes they're both fine with it, on the subject of the two guys falling in love with each other. On the rest of the movie - does it say "Valentine's Day" and inspire thoughts of romance? Given the fairly bleak ending, and subject matter - the guys ended up in unhappy marriages in the end, right, and then one is killed - it's not exactly the first thing which springs to mind when I think of roses and candlelight dinners and moonlight serenades.

I'd say the news guy was dead on the money saying that the average girl would not appreciate it as a Valentine's Day gift.

-d-

 

[Soilwork]

That may be the case, BBN, but the average guy doesn't know the story.

all he knows is that it's got a scene where one guy fucks another guy in a pup tent.

Look, to me this is the broken windows thing... it may be small, but if we allow gay men to be the brunt of every joke told by straight men on TV, we'll not really be able to complain when the news stations show ONLY drag queens and fat, topless lesbians on motorcycles on their gay parade coverage.

 

[Theyoungman]

I could personally care less.

 

[Joshua_me]

I could personally care less.

Then why did you open this thread, read it and then take the time to reply ?

 

[Soilwork]

And the whole gay men being apart of jokes, we're not the only group that is apart or the brunt of jokes. It's not like we're being singled out in jokes or anything.

True.

But can you see a bunch of straight guys laughing at the idea of buying The Colour Purple as a Valentines gift?

 

[mark1111]

The real question here is, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING WATCHING FOX NEWS?!!!

 

[doctorsun]

^That's what I thought, too. The Cleveland FOX news channel is like the National Enquirer of local news. It's a joke.

As for the comment...I don't think this is the time to be getting into deep discussions about the movie's meaning and how, at it's heart, it really ISN'T a Valentine's Day movie, making the comment harmless. Please. I guarantee that the person saying it wasn't thinking that deeply, so why should we? It was clearly nothing more than a comment on the fact that Brokeback Mountain is a gay movie. Therefore, I do find it offensive, albeit not very topical.

I'm also with Soilwork in believing that, if we allow stuff like this to just roll off our backs and just shrug our shoulders, saying "oh, well," it gives permission for it to happen in the future.

 

[Blueboy369]

The irony here is that most newsanchors are flaming queens!

 

[yuty]

You know, it's more of a Ignorant comment, that people are to believe that Heterosexual Women won't like this movie. When in fact, there's at least 5 people I know who are Female WHO LOVED that movie.... Where as I, a gay man did NOT enjoy it at all.

It. Was. A. Joke.

Really, people here need to have thicker skin.

Complaining about something that was clearly intended as a joke much less a non-offensive one is just tacky.

There's nothing offensive about it. You're just blowing it out of proportion and taking offense to something that wasn't meant to be offensive.

Really, it's no different from the NAACP complaining about every little thing someone says and interepts it as a racist comment.

 

[hermanding]

isn't this the network in the States that is kind of nazi and whatever else is worse?
ding

 

[trydegrau]

Everything can be found offensive by someone. I think the more we let things affect us, the more some people will do it. I'm going with apathy on this one

 

[blackbeltninja]

As for the comment...I don't think this is the time to be getting into deep discussions about the movie's meaning and how, at it's heart, it really ISN'T a Valentine's Day movie, making the comment harmless. Please. I guarantee that the person saying it wasn't thinking that deeply, so why should we?

You are kinda putting words in the guy's mouth here... fact is we have no real guarantees, apart from assuming we know his motive. And we all know that assumption is the mother of all fuck-ups.

It was clearly nothing more than a comment on the fact that Brokeback Mountain is a gay movie.

All the more reason to realise it's not the ideal hetero Valentine's Day gift, which is perhaps the only point he was making. Kinda like saying "if you want to convince your friends that sci-fi is a great genre, do not let them watch Battlefield Earth."

-d-

 

[Soilwork]

Kinda like saying "if you want to convince your friends that sci-fi is a great genre, do not let them watch Battlefield Earth."

-d-

Battlefield Earth didn't win a bunch of Golden Globes, Oscars, Screen actor's guild awards.... BBM, regardless of the fact that I didn't like it and think it's full of the kind of loser you find in the Bi and to a lesser extent coming out forum, was regarded as a great movie.

Most guys know is that it's a gay movie, so when the title comes up, they're making a gay joke.

I know that you as a closeted(?) bisexual man find entertainment in comedic gay-bashing and have demonstrated this before.

Doesn't change the fact that this was a gay joke and some of us are kinda sick of it.

 

[blackbeltninja]

All most guys know is that it's a gay movie, so when the title comes up, they're making a gay joke.

Is it really that hard to believe that all they're saying just might be 'don't buy a gay movie for your straight girlfriend?" I'm not sure the suggestion is all that outlandish, frankly.

I know that you as a closeted(?) bisexual man find entertainment in comedic gay-bashing and have demonstrated this before.

No - that's putting words in my mouth, and whether or not you agree with it I do say what I mean and mean what it is which I have said.

In response: I have a thick skin; I find entertainment in comedy in general. I have found things thoroughly amusing relating to all things and all people in all walks of life, all races, religions and creeds, all genders, all sexual preferences, all ages, all abilities. I also happen to believe that if you want to dish it out, you have to take it, which is probably why even if I found them distasteful, I wouldn't be rattled by either of these things which have generated discussion here and in both cases merely urged caution and played Devil's advocate.

Doesn't change the fact that this was a gay joke and some of us are kinda sick of it.

No - Doesn't change the fact that you guys think this was a gay joke and some of you are kinda sick of it. Ever stop and wonder if perhaps some things aren't about you?

-d-

 

[trydegrau]

the kind of loser you find in the Bi and to a lesser extent coming out forum

You would demand respect as a homosexual but you show none to bisexuals. Interesting.

 

[Soilwork]

You would demand respect as a homosexual but you show none to bisexuals. Interesting.

Oh, I respect Bisexuals. Just not the average guy you find in the bi forum these days.

go check it out some time.

 

[blackbeltninja]

If it wasn't the "ideal" hetero present because it's a gay movie (???) then why was it so funny? Where is the joke in there that made the anchors laugh so much?

I read an interview with Annie Proulx, who wrote the novella which became the movie, just before last year's Oscars.

She said something to the effect of it not being about gay cowboys - that's merely the form she chose to use - but about true love and what having and not having true love means to people. In fact, if I recall correctly, she wished people would forget about the gay cowboys for a bit and interpret the theme of the film as intended.

Still, a movie about true love which would be entirely the wrong thing on Valentine's Day - the irony of it is why I would find the comment amusing.

Oh, I respect Bisexuals. Just not the average guy you find in the bi forum these days.

go check it out some time.

It is interesting how many strictly gay guys seem to hang out in the bi forum - but of course that's not the "average guy" you're alluding to, is it?

-d-

 

[Soilwork]

It is interesting how many strictly gay guys seem to hang out in the bi forum - but of course that's not the "average guy" you're alluding to, is it?

-d-

No.

But the whole point of the Bi forum isn't to discuss bi issues, it's for posting porn featuring either straight sex or "Straight men" (whatever that means).

Gay men who find that hot can go there all they want. It's not a private club.

There will soon be a "no flame" forum to discuss bi issues, aparently, but I doubt it'll have much traffic. Seems that the only threads there that live long are the ones that disolved into name-calling, slander, vicious attacks and flame wars.

The only time I go in there is when I get a PM from someone asking me to comment on something or if the subject of Fratmen comes up.