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Friend, if you've only been blocked once you're doing great. I wish I could say that experiencing shame and rejection made you kinder, but it seems to make people want to pass that on, and on a lot of these dating apps men are pretty terrible to each other. All the news laws and supposed new acceptance does not get rid of internalized self hatred or teach men how to respond to each other and their desire properly. I try not to stay on any of the apps for more than an hour at a time. I mean, after an hour turn off your notifications and everything and just walk away for a while. There is so much anger, self rejection and cruelty, not to mention craziness, it can make your head spin.
 
Yeah I've learned guy are just mean on these apps. One guy messaged me first we were have a good talk then in the middle of me typing he blocked me. Most of the time I just get ignored. Even by guys when we have a lot in common.
 
I hate to say this, but its common. I think its fear. I don't think it has anything to do with you. These guys are just getting on the app too, not sure of who they are an I think they freak out and feeling like, "Fuck, I really am gay?" or I really am about to hook up! They just aren't quite ready for it.
 
Yeah I've learned guy are just mean on these apps. One guy messaged me first we were have a good talk then in the middle of me typing he blocked me. Most of the time I just get ignored. Even by guys when we have a lot in common.

Go to the hangouts instead. It might seem to take long to get there, but I assure you, you will waste much more time with apps. I know I have.

This thing that happened to you is rather common. Please stop before you regret it, or pare your app-use down to an acceptable level or you will be sorry you wasted all that time.
 
I would ordinarily agree that going to in-person locations is probably good. You're more likely to have meaningful connections even if you don't find a hook-up.
But I'm concerned for your physical safety. If you end up in a bad spot you have a lot less agency to escape the situation. Especially considering how exhausted you'd probably be. Even setting hookups aside I'd be concerned.
 
The only thing I know about hookup sites is what I read at JUB, but am I correct in assuming that since it's guys looking to hookup for sex that the standard is based on attractiveness and physical appearance? If so, it would seem to me that rejection should be expected for lots of different reasons like race, cock size, height/weight, etc. Hookup sites seem like a pretty superficial world.
 
Sorry I for got I add some info in I live in a small town in Alabama. The nearest gay hangouts are like and hour and a half away but with no car or public transportation I can't go. But so far the people on the apps are just rude. I see a guy I like and I say "hi, hows your day going?" Then they block me and the ones that do talk are not willing to come over.

Unless you have a reputation that precedes you, and people have heard that you're snippy, bitchy, or mean, there's nothing you need adjust in yourself.
As long as you're being civil - and polite - in the conversation (although it sounds like they're reacting pretty fast) and someone blocks you, then they either have 1) Bad manners or 2) No Class. Don't internalize it, unless you've said of done something that's gotten around. Sometimes, one bad experience with someone on one of those apps (wouldn't know: never use them), can cause people to spread rumors about you that are completely unfounded.
I remember back in the '70s, people said I had "attitude." That was because I was a very well-built guy. The reality was simply that I had manners and was raised not to impose myself on others (which, being Black, was a wise thing for one's parents to have taught you growing up in the '50s, unless they wanted to see you swinging from the branch of a tree (lynched). When a guy I was dating brought me home, his roommate wandered into the room, sat down and started talking to me. After about an hour, he said, "you're a nice guy." When I asked why he said that, he said that I looked like I was always out "on the prowl." I told him I wore tight shirts because I perspired heavily and shirts that were loose in the armpits caused perspiration to run down my torso and it was uncomfortable. And then I asked him to tell other guys I was NEVER on the prowl: I was the "marrying kind," not the sex kind.
There may be rumors about you. Ask a friend to to on the app, and ask someone to look at your profile and say, "hey, have you ever talked to this guy. I was kinda interested in him, but I wondered if anyone knows anything about him." If there are rumors, people will tell your friend, "I heard that_________________" and you'll know that people who don't even know you are talking about you. Trust me. Having lived in Gay Mecca (San Francisco), the things I heard about myself (my White friends would tell me what White guys were saying about me) just had me shaking my head. None of it remotely resembled who I am inside (maybe being a Black activist in the gay community put people off, but hey, if they weren't racist, I wouldn't have needed to insist on the bars having Black bartenders, or stores having Black salesmen, etc). My point is, stories get spread and ...this:
 

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Actually I can host. My problem is no one is interested in me there are at least 1-10 guys that are only 5miles away but they either block me or say I'm to far. Just makes me feel I'm to ugly

Here is my profile can you think of anything I should add or take away? View attachment 1299381

I'm sure you're not ugly - but bear in mind, there's a cornucopia of preferences and desires out there. Some people like young guys, some are after old; some like blond guys, some lust after brunettes; some like 'em chubby, others want super skinny. And some will go with anyone and everyone.

The reality is that in your neck of the woods, there are probably not many fish in the sea - so the chances of hooking up with guys who you find attractive and who are attractive to you are lessened. Try to remember this and not take it personally. One thing I can absolutely, 100% promise you is that there are people out there who would find you hot and want to jump your bones. You just haven't met them yet.

Another thing to remember is that on these apps, a lot of people's manners just go out the window, unfortunately. Because of the 'disconnect' (i.e. on an app you're little more than a username and they know nothing of the real person behind it) people behave in ways they wouldn't dream of behaving in real life. This includes automatically and completely shunning you if they're not attracted to you - or even if they are but can't or won't meet up for some reason. There are also some game players on these apps who never meet anyone - they're just checking things out and living their gay life vicariously through apps without any real intention of hooking up. For example, I know a guy in a long-term relationship who's on the apps. He never meets people, he's just on there to check guys out and to perve on them.

I hope things improve for you. I think time will deliver what you're looking for but considering where you live, it could be a long time. There are more options and permutations of guys in big cities and therefore the odds of hook-ups are much greater. I'm not saying you should move but it's perhaps something to consider if the current situation doesn't improve and you find yourself getting increasingly frustrated.
 
By the way, if you want to persist with the apps, it might be an idea to try different apps and sites. They're all slightly different and attract different types of people. Squirt.org is extremely focused on sex and hook-ups, if that's what you're looking for. I've never used it but I believe GROWLr is focused more on bears and bigger or chunky guys. Scruff has a reputation for being friendlier than Grindr and is focused more towards hairy, masculine guys. Etc. There are a lot of options apart from Grindr. To be honest, I think Grindr is kinda on the way out, at least here in Australia. I found a recent "Washington Post" article which indicates that might be the case in the US too:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...t-favor/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f5eb8fc5d720
 
In my experience, Grindr had a lot of bots and faceless profiles. It was almost unusable for me. Scruff always worked a lot better, though you can still run into creeps and jerks.
 
What the fuck is wrong with people. A guy liked me on the Surge app. So I liked him back. He then sent me a message saying "I'm not in to fat ugly guys like you so leave me alone asshole"
 
Croft85 said:
What the fuck is wrong with people. A guy liked me on the Surge app. So I liked him back. He then sent me a message saying "I'm not in to fat ugly guys like you so leave me alone asshole"
Wow..
What a rude fucker, absolutely no need to be like that.
And dumbass too considering he liked you first :roll:
 
In my experience, Grindr had a lot of bots and faceless profiles. It was almost unusable for me. Scruff always worked a lot better, though you can still run into creeps and jerks.

I’ve had the most success with Grindr simply because there are more people on it.
 
What the fuck is wrong with people. A guy liked me on the Surge app. So I liked him back. He then sent me a message saying "I'm not in to fat ugly guys like you so leave me alone asshole"

I’m not saying he was right since I don’t know you but if you do come across as fat or ugly to a lot of guys, that might be why your success rate is low. As others have mentioned these hookup apps are very superficial and are generally about physical attraction for the most part.
 
If he didn't like me then why did he like me first? I got a notification saying he liked my pic so I liked him back then he sent me a message insulting me.
 
So what is it was guys putting conflicting info on their profiles? I'm talking if this one guy his profile says he's from Helena. But when talking he says he's from thorsby those two cities are 2 hours apart
 
You could ask them directly. If there's a common reason then you could put in your profile something addressing that you need to know about the discrepancy in locations early on.

One reason could be that they DID live there and never updated their profile.

On OkCupid I know of at least one instance of a guy just trying to explore different people by changing their location; though it was something they stated upfront in their profile and I don't think the distance was quite so great.
 
Hey, so I read the screenshot of your profile, but in simple terms, it's gotta sell YOU.

I am sure that you're not just an "average" guy (that you say you are), in that you have several redeeming qualities about you, whether it be mental, or physical! You MUST know what they are! You kinda have to set yourself apart from the rest of the lot, even if it comes out through maybe one sentence of humor, or sarcasm.

What are your likes? What are YOU like? It doesn't have to be descriptive, but it's gotta come out in your writing somehow.

Good luck!
I wish I was in Alabama! I love the south, and I'd want to meet you in person!
 
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