how can anybody defend a man that does this to a woman?

[blackbeltninja]

Say this guy was a skinny guy, over 18, doing the same thing and saying the same stuff as the girl in the video. Little to zero fights in the past, etc. Would you still claim that the driver used excessive force because their differences in physiology?

An aside: having watched the vid, the uppercut didn't seem "excessive" - I mean, from a combat perspective, I've seen people hit much harder - I think it was just an extremely well-placed strike which took her (and most of us) by surprise and probably looks much worse than it was, like when you see a boxer land a shot in just the right place to knock his opponent out WITHOUT using massive amounts of power.

The choking was another story, though.

-d-

 

[mikey3000]

If she is as dangerous as she sounds, it's better to do your best to remove yourself and others from the situation (if that requires restraining her or using some force, so be it) and to call the police-- let them deal with her, it's safer for everyone involved. Knocking her unconscious as a means to prevent further attacks is risky and can lead you to more trouble.

Anyway, that is unfortunate to hear, your sister seems like she needs serious help. It's sad to see people lashing out so violently, usually they hurt others because they're hurting in someway themselves and don't have the emotional maturity to express themselves so they resort this sort of behavior.



Yes, I would. I've already said as much previously in this thread. Still, a skinny 18yr old male can do more damage than the skinny woman in the video so I'd take that into account if we're doing a direct comparison.

And if it were a a large, strong woman attacking a very small/frail man, I'd feel the same. Or if it were a woman of any size trying to assault a man with a weapon/object of some sort thereby putting a man's life in immediate danger, I'd feel that an uppercut (and maybe more) was warranted.

Like I said, it's not specifically about gender but it is a factor in this incident because it involves a physically imposing man going all out on a small women that he could have very easily restrained in order to protect himself. On average, men are physically stronger than women (who generally have about 40-60% of a man's upper body strength and 70% of a man's lower body strength), so it's pertinent to the discussion. It's something we have to consider.



Going by the story, his life wasn't in danger, she grabbed his neck for a second to hold him in place so she could quickly spit on him, then she let go and stepped aside. I'm not trying to excuse her behavior but the uppercut was more life threatening than whatever she did to him. His reaction was not impulsive, either, because at least that would have been more understandable if he reflexively just hit her right when she grabbed at him. Instead, he paused (entirely unharmed, btw), then calming sauntered on over to her.

Actually physiologically, inch for inch and pound for pound, the female body is stronger than the male, but that is besides the point.
If that woman attacking the bus driver had a communicable disease such as HIV, is that not considered "more" life threatening than a punch in the mouth? In Canada it is and people have been successfully prosecuted for doing just that.

(I love that gif)

 

[pat grimshaw]

……she grabbed his neck for a second to hold him in place so she could quickly spit on him…

ThatGirl, I suggest you hire yourself out as a laywer or a politician when you get tired of Just Us Boys.

 

[Harke the Boeotarch]

I can't tell you how relieved I am it was they who got in this embarrassing situation and not I, for a change.

 

[mikey3000]

I can't tell you how relieved I am it was they who got in this embarrassing situation and not I, for a change.

I hear ya bro. The last time I saw a chick fight was on a public bus. This crazy senior lady slapped my sister and my sister went all apeshit on her. LOL! It was all over before the bus driver was able to pull over, but none the less, it was pretty intense (and embarassing).

 

[blackbeltninja]

Going by the story, his life wasn't in danger, she grabbed his neck for a second to hold him in place so she could quickly spit on him, then she let go and stepped aside.

Gosh, I clearly wasn't paying as much attention as I thought I was - I was under the impression that he tried to choke her after the hit.

-d-

 

[-Kane-]

That ignorant beast got what the fuck she deserved. And the majority of people in online communities agrees with that opinion.
If a woman lays her hands on me, the bitch will get knocked out...Nuff said.

 

[Alistair]

She's on Facebook bragging about how well she took the punch, and how it didn't even hurt. Shows how smart she is, seeing how she's hired a lawyer to sue him and the transit company.

Disclaimer: this is information from a local Cleveland radio station. I haven't seen the FB page or heard of a pending lawsuit

 

[mikey3000]

Nice. She'll end up a millionaire, have a book deal and maybe even a talk show.

 

[USEDCAR]

I don't blame that bus driver she should of kept her mouth shut and her hands to her self. You don't know someone and if your going to provoke them i don't blame them. I hit a girl before in High School she hit me first and i hit her back i can't see my self sitting there getting beat up by a women and im suppose to sit there and look stupid.

 

[lolalola70]

if you watch her follow up interview she says if she finds herself in such a situation again she will remove herself from it and not escalate it.
so i would say he literally knocked some sense in to her

 

[dangerguy]

Didn't watch the video, so I guess I can't really give my 2 cents on who's more at fault, but after losing my aunt/2nd mom to domestic violence this year, I have a hard time understanding any justification for a man putting his hands on a woman.

I see this as an 'issue' of sorts, in perception of these situations. Domestic violence is completely inexcusable and it's horrible that a relative of yours had to suffer it in such a way, but I do think that the fact a lot of people equate any violence against a woman to domestic violence is wrong. I'm not specifically talking about this video, but in other general situations, a man has every right to defend himself if being physically attacked, whether the agressor is male or female, or if a man has to use physical force to perhaps protect someone from an agressor (again, be they male or female).

I just feel like a lot has changed in the world. There are some mean, nasty and violent individuals out there, and not all of them are men. One of my friends from high school was once beaten up by a gang of girls and he allowed it to happen. Why? Because they were girls. In my eyes, that is utter nonsense.

 

[pat grimshaw]

... domestic violence....

A man, older than me, said 'domestic violence didn't exist 30 years ago'.

I said 'What?'

He said 'Well. That word didn't exist. There were nagging husbands and nagging wives.'

I said 'Oh, OK'.

He said 'There was much less of it happening. You didn't hear about it much. The police wouldn't think to spend so much of their day patrolling for domestic violence.