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Glafna
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http://wga.org/subpage_member.aspx?id=2529
A list of all of the Writers Guild of America members who support the strike. There are quite a few, from some pretty popular shows.
A list of all of the Writers Guild of America members who support the strike. There are quite a few, from some pretty popular shows.
sonny10305
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Strike update: Will Jay and Dave return to late night?
With the writers strike now headed into its third week, talk show host Ellen DeGeneres may soon have some company in crossing the picket lines. There’s talk that late night hosts including NBC’s Jay Leno and CBS’s David Letterman could be back on the air as soon as two weeks, while some showrunners have decided to return to their programs to do non-writing duties such as editing. The late-night shows have been the first visibly hurt by the strike, going into reruns immediately after it started. That has resulted in tough times for the shows’ non-writing crews. NBC said it would begin laying off “Tonight Show” staffers, though it agreed to delay those for at least two weeks, and Letterman will be paying “Late Show” and “Late Late Show” employees himself through the end of December. While the hosts don’t want to break ranks with the writers, they also recognize they are an important revenue source for their networks and have high-priced contracts to fulfill. There’s widespread speculation that if one host comes back sans writing staff, as Johnny Carson and Letterman did during the 1988 strike, others will follow. Meanwhile, some showrunners, most notably “Lost’s” Carlton Cuse, have decided to return to work after rancorous debate. The Writers Guild of America has not specifically forbade writers to do non-writing work on their shows, though hardliners are against it. The showrunners, like the late-night hosts, have split loyalties, wanting to help the guild but also worrying about the quality and legacy of their shows.
Strike update: Will Jay and Dave return to late night?
With the writers strike now headed into its third week, talk show host Ellen DeGeneres may soon have some company in crossing the picket lines. There’s talk that late night hosts including NBC’s Jay Leno and CBS’s David Letterman could be back on the air as soon as two weeks, while some showrunners have decided to return to their programs to do non-writing duties such as editing. The late-night shows have been the first visibly hurt by the strike, going into reruns immediately after it started. That has resulted in tough times for the shows’ non-writing crews. NBC said it would begin laying off “Tonight Show” staffers, though it agreed to delay those for at least two weeks, and Letterman will be paying “Late Show” and “Late Late Show” employees himself through the end of December. While the hosts don’t want to break ranks with the writers, they also recognize they are an important revenue source for their networks and have high-priced contracts to fulfill. There’s widespread speculation that if one host comes back sans writing staff, as Johnny Carson and Letterman did during the 1988 strike, others will follow. Meanwhile, some showrunners, most notably “Lost’s” Carlton Cuse, have decided to return to work after rancorous debate. The Writers Guild of America has not specifically forbade writers to do non-writing work on their shows, though hardliners are against it. The showrunners, like the late-night hosts, have split loyalties, wanting to help the guild but also worrying about the quality and legacy of their shows.
Spiff
Reality goggles required
Whether or not writers are entitled to more money, I really don't care either way. But by striking the real people that are losing out are the viewers. Without viewers, there are no ratings. Without ratings, there are no shows. Something like this will make a loyal viewer into an angry disloyal viewer who may not want to tune back in when the strike is over. The regular television season is too short even without strikes. The viewers (the customers) do their part by suffering through endless commercials. Speaking of which, when the strike is over the real fallout of this will lead to even more advertising time and less show time. So either way, the viewers (the customers) get screwed.
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Actually, the viewers won't be affected if the strike is short enough; most shows have enough scripts too go to the first week of December (except for the late night shows, obviously, but it's unlikely that any host will break ranks because, unlike Carson, most of them were writers originally, and don't want to tick one of them off, especially to prevent issues later on).
It's also unlikely that more reality shows will join the roster; although a few are doing well, most are barely breaking even. Worse, the ones that are making it are becoming more expensive to produce.
And the commercials aren't even a factor...The networks could increase their length regardless of what happens with the strike, even though it's unlikely that they're going to increase the length of the commercial break. After all, one of the reasons that they are losing to cable is too many commercials, so they've hit the limit (about 6 minutes/30 minutes) in that regard (any more commercials and no one will want to watch the show regardless of how good it is...).
Good thing that they're going back to the table on the 26th, eh?
RG
It's also unlikely that more reality shows will join the roster; although a few are doing well, most are barely breaking even. Worse, the ones that are making it are becoming more expensive to produce.
And the commercials aren't even a factor...The networks could increase their length regardless of what happens with the strike, even though it's unlikely that they're going to increase the length of the commercial break. After all, one of the reasons that they are losing to cable is too many commercials, so they've hit the limit (about 6 minutes/30 minutes) in that regard (any more commercials and no one will want to watch the show regardless of how good it is...).
Good thing that they're going back to the table on the 26th, eh?
RG
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I have a feeling the way shows are sponsored is going to drastically change in the near future. With more and more people using DVR and TiVo, companies are going to start to wonder why they're paying so much money for ads that no one is watching. We are going to start seeing more and more blatant product placement. Will this lead to less commercials? I doubt it, but we'll see.
sonny10305
Mets Lets Go 2015
I wondered about that as well. In addition, I imagine the technology is there to prevent fast forwarding through the commercials, I wonder if or when that will happen. I would rather see more product placement than lose the ability to fast forward.
sonny10305
Mets Lets Go 2015
It may have just gotten worse.
This in today.
Over recent days, with the writers and studios back in talks and neither side releasing statements to the press, there was a rising optimism that the nearly four-week writers' strike could be over in just days.
That optimism was dashed late last night when the 12,000-member Writers Guild of America released a statement all but rejecting the latest offer from the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers. Strikers are set to resume walking the picket lines on Monday.
What the AMPTP was choosing to call a New Economic Partnership the WGA was quick to dismiss as a "massive rollback" that offered nothing in addition to what the studios had put on the table in their last offer regarding compensation for DVD sales and new media.
"The companies presented in essence their Nov. 4 package with not an iota of movement on any of the issues that matter to writers," reads a statement posted by WGA presidents Patric M. Verrone of the West Coast chapter and Michael Winship of the East Coast chapter.
This is not a good sign at all.
By all accounts, the two sides sat about a table for much of this week without breaking through their months-long stalemate, contrary to reports that a deal was imminent. The worry is that if a deal isn't reached soon, talks will break off and will not resume until the new year.
The two sides are to resume talks Tuesday, with the WGA taking the weekend to review the AMPTP proposal, put forth late yesterday, in detail. And at that time, the group representing the film and TV studios and networks is expected to come back with another set of proposals, what's being billed as the second part of its New Economic Partnership and reportedly also having to do with new media rights.
As it stands now, the sides are still way far apart.
In its latest offer the AMPTP proposes paying writers a total of $130 million in fees for new media content, including shows streamed over the internet. But as the WGA break those numbers down, it would come out to around $250 in compensation for streaming a one-hour show over the course of a year, as compared to more than $20,000 in fees for a rerun on network TV.
The studios are not budging on a WGA demand for jurisdiction over original web content.
The writers' latest package, presented on Wednesday, would cost the studios and networks $151 million over three years, for what the WGA says would amount to a 3 percent raise over what writers are making this year.
"The AMPTP's intractability is dispiriting news but it must also be motivating. Any movement on the part of these multinational conglomerates has been the result of the collective action of our membership," reads the WGA statement.
"We must fight on, returning to the lines on Monday in force to make it clear that we will not back down, that we will not accept a bad deal, and that we are all in this together."
The AMPTP’s statement ends with this somewhat less rousing comment: "We continue to believe that there is common ground to be found between the two sides, and that our proposal for a New Economic Partnership offers the best chance to find it."
This in today.
Over recent days, with the writers and studios back in talks and neither side releasing statements to the press, there was a rising optimism that the nearly four-week writers' strike could be over in just days.
That optimism was dashed late last night when the 12,000-member Writers Guild of America released a statement all but rejecting the latest offer from the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers. Strikers are set to resume walking the picket lines on Monday.
What the AMPTP was choosing to call a New Economic Partnership the WGA was quick to dismiss as a "massive rollback" that offered nothing in addition to what the studios had put on the table in their last offer regarding compensation for DVD sales and new media.
"The companies presented in essence their Nov. 4 package with not an iota of movement on any of the issues that matter to writers," reads a statement posted by WGA presidents Patric M. Verrone of the West Coast chapter and Michael Winship of the East Coast chapter.
This is not a good sign at all.
By all accounts, the two sides sat about a table for much of this week without breaking through their months-long stalemate, contrary to reports that a deal was imminent. The worry is that if a deal isn't reached soon, talks will break off and will not resume until the new year.
The two sides are to resume talks Tuesday, with the WGA taking the weekend to review the AMPTP proposal, put forth late yesterday, in detail. And at that time, the group representing the film and TV studios and networks is expected to come back with another set of proposals, what's being billed as the second part of its New Economic Partnership and reportedly also having to do with new media rights.
As it stands now, the sides are still way far apart.
In its latest offer the AMPTP proposes paying writers a total of $130 million in fees for new media content, including shows streamed over the internet. But as the WGA break those numbers down, it would come out to around $250 in compensation for streaming a one-hour show over the course of a year, as compared to more than $20,000 in fees for a rerun on network TV.
The studios are not budging on a WGA demand for jurisdiction over original web content.
The writers' latest package, presented on Wednesday, would cost the studios and networks $151 million over three years, for what the WGA says would amount to a 3 percent raise over what writers are making this year.
"The AMPTP's intractability is dispiriting news but it must also be motivating. Any movement on the part of these multinational conglomerates has been the result of the collective action of our membership," reads the WGA statement.
"We must fight on, returning to the lines on Monday in force to make it clear that we will not back down, that we will not accept a bad deal, and that we are all in this together."
The AMPTP’s statement ends with this somewhat less rousing comment: "We continue to believe that there is common ground to be found between the two sides, and that our proposal for a New Economic Partnership offers the best chance to find it."
sonny10305
Mets Lets Go 2015
Well. it's a start...and about time too.
Carson Daly already did it, and now the rest of the late-night talk show crowd may return to the air with or without a resolution to the writers’ strike. The hosts of NBC’s “Tonight Show with Jay Leno” and “Late Night with Conan O’Brien,” CBS’s “Late Show with David Letterman” and “Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson” and ABC’s “Jimmy Kimmel Live” are quietly in talks to return to the air at the same time, likely sometime in January, according to a report this morning in Variety. None of the hosts wants to be the first to return and rile up the Writers Guild of America, but many are concerned about their staffs. Presenting a united front would make it harder for the WGA to attack. Production of the late-night shows halted immediately after the strike began, and some networks laid off production workers, although many are still being paid out of the pockets of their respective hosts. Daly, who hosts “Last Call” on NBC, has been the target of WGA criticism since he returned to the air this week, with the union even planting striking writers in his audience to disrupt the show earlier this week.
Carson Daly already did it, and now the rest of the late-night talk show crowd may return to the air with or without a resolution to the writers’ strike. The hosts of NBC’s “Tonight Show with Jay Leno” and “Late Night with Conan O’Brien,” CBS’s “Late Show with David Letterman” and “Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson” and ABC’s “Jimmy Kimmel Live” are quietly in talks to return to the air at the same time, likely sometime in January, according to a report this morning in Variety. None of the hosts wants to be the first to return and rile up the Writers Guild of America, but many are concerned about their staffs. Presenting a united front would make it harder for the WGA to attack. Production of the late-night shows halted immediately after the strike began, and some networks laid off production workers, although many are still being paid out of the pockets of their respective hosts. Daly, who hosts “Last Call” on NBC, has been the target of WGA criticism since he returned to the air this week, with the union even planting striking writers in his audience to disrupt the show earlier this week.
sonny10305
Mets Lets Go 2015
Read this today:
Letterman's Worldwide Pants produces "Late Show with David Letterman" and also the "Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson," two of the late night shows most hurt by the strike. The WGA will meet with Letterman and has vowed to open negotiations with other production companies as well.
A Letterman deal could break loose a flood of similar deals. Letterman going back would open the way for Jay Leno and Conan O'Brien.
As it is, just this morning NBC announced that "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno" and "Late Night with Conan O'Brien" will return to the air on Jan. 2 without writers.
Letterman's Worldwide Pants produces "Late Show with David Letterman" and also the "Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson," two of the late night shows most hurt by the strike. The WGA will meet with Letterman and has vowed to open negotiations with other production companies as well.
A Letterman deal could break loose a flood of similar deals. Letterman going back would open the way for Jay Leno and Conan O'Brien.
As it is, just this morning NBC announced that "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno" and "Late Night with Conan O'Brien" will return to the air on Jan. 2 without writers.
