How do you Britons feel about ?

[bw92116]

Hell, I lost respect for Meryl way back at Death Becomes Her, but she's still a great actress. I'm sure I'll eat up every bit of the film whenever I get around to watching it.

 

[kallipolis]

Hell, I lost respect for Meryl way back at Death Becomes Her, but she's still a great actress. I'm sure I'll eat up every bit of the film whenever I get around to watching it.

Whereas I am always sent into seventh heaven when viewing "Death becomes her."

 

[quasar]

I'd already lost any respect for Streep after that Mama Mia abortion, can't see the film being that big of a success, anywhere apart from England and possibly America,
As for Thatcher herself, well the last time there was a Thatcher Thread all my posts got removed, and my name probably given over to Scotland Yard,

And yet surprisingly, on it's opening weekend, the largest box office take outside of London was in Glasgow and Edinburgh.

 

[rareboy]

^
So, I suppose that means you'll be including yourself amongst those millions to whom I alluded in my last paragraph.

I think it's a pity that this teary soap opera will, in time, be accepted as the reality. People prefer to believe the gaudy version over the truth, they remember Shakespeare's Richard III instead of the real one; they believe John Wayne and Erroll Flynn single-handedly won World War II and that Conan Doyle's 'Sherlock Holmes' is a flabby, gun-toting Russian-Jewish Irishman.

 

[pat grimshaw]

How come those Hollywood wolves don't plunder the history and heroes of Canada to make pap for the masses?

 

[rareboy]

Too boring.

Same as why they don't bother with Australia.

 

[levenshulme31]

Meryl Streep playing Thatcher makes a change from English actors playing American villains.

As for her recoprd, she took school milk away in the early seventies, decimated british industry to satisfy her dogmatic opposition to trade unions, cosied up to murderous dictators like Pinochet (because he helped out in the Falkands War, a war which could probably have been avoided, but nothing helps a re-election campaign like a few months of whipped up jingoistic fervour, she started the privatisation of Britain's coal, gas, electricity, airports, railways - so they are now largely foreign-owned and fleecing the British consumers. She allowed the North Sea Oil and gas wealth to be pissed away into city profits instead of it being invested for everyone's future (like Norway did), she opposed sanctions against the Apartheid regime in South Africa.

As for the gays, she introduced the despicable Clause 28 which made it illegal for local authorities in Britain to 'promote' homosexuality (which essentially made it a crime for any teacher, council official to say anything positive about homosexuality).

She also introduced the Poll Tax which led to rioting in the streets, allowed Reagan to plant American nuclear weapons on British bases, and generally oversaw the introduction of the 'Fuck you, I'm alright' mentallity which is so pervasive and damaging in the country.

A minority of idealogues worship her (kind of like how Bush and Reagan are worshipped by certain sections of America).

I'm with Frankie on this one.

 

[kallipolis]

Meryl Streep playing Thatcher makes a change from English actors playing American villains.

As for her recoprd, she took school milk away in the early seventies, decimated british industry to satisfy her dogmatic opposition to trade unions, cosied up to murderous dictators like Pinochet (because he helped out in the Falkands War, a war which could probably have been avoided, but nothing helps a re-election campaign like a few months of whipped up jingoistic fervour, she started the privatisation of Britain's coal, gas, electricity, airports, railways - so they are now largely foreign-owned and fleecing the British consumers. She allowed the North Sea Oil and gas wealth to be pissed away into city profits instead of it being invested for everyone's future (like Norway did), she opposed sanctions against the Apartheid regime in South Africa.

As for the gays, she introduced the despicable Clause 28 which made it illegal for local authorities in Britain to 'promote' homosexuality (which essentially made it a crime for any teacher, council official to say anything positive about homosexuality).

She also introduced the Poll Tax which led to rioting in the streets, allowed Reagan to plant American nuclear weapons on British bases, and generally oversaw the introduction of the 'Fuck you, I'm alright' mentallity which is so pervasive and damaging in the country.

A minority of idealogues worship her (kind of like how Bush and Reagan are worshipped by certain sections of America).

I'm with Frankie on this one.

That Argentina invaded the Falkland Islands with an army of some 11,000 soldiers to subdue, and imprison some 2000 unarmed British sheep farmers, and a mighty British defence force of some 90 lightly armed Royal Marines does suggest that even Thatcher could not have prevented this surprise invasion.

Victory for the British was sweet for it also resulted in the collapse of the vicious military dictatorship then governing Argentina. A fascist junta that had murdered some 30,000 innocent unarmed Argentinians for daring to voice democratic opinions in public. The methodology employed by the junta's killing teams simply involved throwing their victims out of aircraft over open sea to ensure their bodies were never discovered.

I repeat that you continue to ignore the fact that Margaret Thatcher led the Conservative Party to victory at three consecutive general elections, leading me to believe that the British people do not share your interpretation of history.

 

[rareboy]

Margaret Thatcher was a first class cunt.

She makes all the rest of them look second class.

 

[unloadonme]

Margaret Thatcher was a first class cunt.

She makes all the rest of them look second class.

That must be the most cretinously ill-informed post of the year to date.

 

[rareboy]

I guess it is easy enough to take offense if you don't see it as one of her strengths.

 

[palbert]

How come those Hollywood wolves don't plunder the history and heroes of Canada to make pap for the masses?

Didn't Hollywood immortalize the history of Canada with Jeanette MacDonald and Nelson Eddy. Oh how the Maple Leaf must recall "Indian Love Call." And the Royal Cacadian Mounted Police recall "Rose Marie."

And, Pat, remember much of Canada's WWII involvement was Australian: Errol Flynn.

Plunder. Pap. You perpetrate a disservice.

 

[levenshulme31]

I repeat that you continue to ignore the fact that Margaret Thatcher led the Conservative Party to victory at three consecutive general elections, leading me to believe that the British people do not share your interpretation of history.

She and the Conservative party won the elections but they never won a majority of the vote.

1979 they got 43.9%, 1983 it was 42.4% and 42.2% in 1987.

Of course, this is usually the way with elections, particulalry when there are multiple parties to vote for, but I still say the majority were against her.

 

[pat grimshaw]

Too boring.…Same as why they don't bother with Australia.

Unfortunately Streep has already done a movie about that simple Australian woman who claimed a dingo stole her baby. Streep's accent was ludicrous.

Margaret Thatcher was a first class cunt. …She makes all the rest of them look second class.

…it as one of her strengths.

We can tell you aspire to move up to the first class yourself. But this 'Diva worship' / 'Personality Cult adoration of Streep and Thatcher is yet another aspect that repels me about this American sentimental hogwash of a fiction movie.

 

[kallipolis]

She and the Conservative party won the elections but they never won a majority of the vote.

1979 they got 43.9%, 1983 it was 42.4% and 42.2% in 1987.

Of course, this is usually the way with elections, particulalry when there are multiple parties to vote for, but I still say the majority were against her.

The Conservative Party won three consecutive elections under Thatcher, followed by a fourth under John Major following Thatcher's resignation.

Unless you can offer us proof that the balance of the vote at those three consecutive general elections was specifically focused against Thatcher, rather than in favour of the voters' preferred party, and it's manifesto your opinion remains a mere guess based upon your clearly enunciated prejudices against Thatcher.

You are very well aware that under the Westminster system of government the party winning the most parliamentary seats assumes power.

 

[pat grimshaw]

Well, today Streep apologises to Britain 'for trampling all over your history".

 

[rareboy]

Unfortunately Streep has already done a movie about that simple Australian woman who claimed a dingo stole her baby. Streep's accent was ludicrous.




We can tell you aspire to move up to the first class yourself. But this 'Diva worship' / 'Personality Cult adoration of Streep and Thatcher is yet another aspect that repels me about this American sentimental hogwash of a fiction movie.

Isn't it time this gets moved to the Entertainment forum?

It is only peripherally about Thatcher...your big axe to grind is with the actress in a movie...hardly a worthy topic for CE&P.

 

[Telstra]

What so i wasn't born during her reign, so i don't get to have an opinion, does the same go for Hitler and the Nazi ?

Yet again another sychophantic right winger, you do know she hated gay people don't you.
And i hardly think the Scottish jibe works considering great parts of the UK, hated her guts,



Where's my shovel.

the video is zero funny.
Are the laughing fake or real?

 

[rareboy]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...ep-adds-fuel-Margaret-Thatcher-portrayal.html

Cor Blimey.

The Daily Mail is shocked and appalled.

 

[palemale]

Unfortunately Streep has already done a movie about that simple Australian woman who claimed a dingo stole her baby. Streep's accent was ludicrous.

I'm sure "Iron Lady," would have been a better movie if, upon learning of Argentina's invasion of the Falkland/Malvinas Islands, Meryl Streep as Margaret Thatcher had started screaming, "dingo ate the baby!"