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How many languages can you speak

hungrybrownbear said:
lol, I wasn't saying that English would drop out, I was just highlighting the increasing significance of Chinese in the future, to counteract OP's nativist, anti-cultural, idealogical homogenization of the English as the global standard. :)
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The English only crowd seem to be pretty defensive about not being able to speak anything else, regardless of their claims of "mental superiority" eh? LOL! I had a laugh at a few of the comments against Mandarin Chinese, the most widely spoken language on the face of the planet, with nearly 1.2 BILLION that speak the language. Do you think these deniers don't realize that websites in other countries actually come in something other than English? LOL! I'm not sure they do. Maybe they don't realize China is the 2nd largest economy in the world.

I won't hire a person in my office that can't speak Mandarin in fact. In Singapore it's crucial to be able to talk to our clients in their own, native, preferred language. In the office I run, we have the ability to service accounts in 18 languages in Asia, plus English as the default language. There's a reason we are killing our American competitors who don't have this depth and breadth in expertise. Being able to speak fluently in our client's languages makes our clients far more loyal, not to mention making us more adept to local customs when we develop ad campaigns.

Languages will continue to evolve and be created. For every extinction of an ancient tongue, a new takes its place. In Singapore we have what's called "Singlish" which is a mashup consisting of around 10 languages but mainly of English, Malay, Teochew, Cantonese, and Tamil. For the most part it's not used in official communication or ads, but certainly in popular culture and almost necessary to become a true local, and communicate with the various everyday people at the marketplace, restaurant kitchens, laborers, and the like. (Think "Kitchen Spanish")
 
MoltenRock III said:
The English only crowd seem to be pretty defensive about not being able to speak anything else, regardless of their claims of "mental superiority" eh? LOL! I had a laugh at a few of the comments against Mandarin Chinese, the most widely spoken language on the face of the planet, with nearly 1.2 BILLION that speak the language. Do you think these deniers don't realize that websites in other countries actually come in something other than English? LOL! I'm not sure they do. Maybe they don't realize China is the 2nd largest economy in the world.

I won't hire a person in my office that can't speak Mandarin in fact. In Singapore it's crucial to be able to talk to our clients in their own, native, preferred language. In the office I run, we have the ability to service accounts in 18 languages in Asia, plus English as the default language. There's a reason we are killing our American competitors who don't have this depth and breadth in expertise. Being able to speak fluently in our client's languages makes our clients far more loyal, not to mention making us more adept to local customs when we develop ad campaigns.

Languages will continue to evolve and be created. For every extinction of an ancient tongue, a new takes its place. In Singapore we have what's called "Singlish" which is a mashup consisting of around 10 languages but mainly of English, Malay, Teochew, Cantonese, and Tamil. For the most part it's not used in official communication or ads, but certainly in popular culture and almost necessary to become a true local, and communicate with the various everyday people at the marketplace, restaurant kitchens, laborers, and the like. (Think "Kitchen Spanish")
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Um I'm pretty sure I'm the biggest English only promoter here even though English is not my native tounge...I was born in the former Yugoslavia and also speak Croatian,Serbian,Bosnian(it's all the same shit) and I can hold a conversation in Spanish too.
I know a lot of Russian and Bulgarian too....it's so easy for me to learn because all Slavic languages are similar.
It's not like I wanted to learn these annoying languages....I just did as I grew up in ex Yugoslavia and also since Hispanics are everywhere I can't help it I learn fast....plus I used to watch Spanish soap operas with my grandma in the old country while my parents were at work.
I used to think learning Spanish is interesting but then when I started learning about medicine and science I thought fuck Spanish it doesn't do anything for my brain...it's just a waste of time.

I don't see how new languages are going to be created...we are going to have something faster than airplanes and cars in the future. This is not the middle ages anymore....humans are not going to be seperated and live isolated lives from each other.

Having many languages is so useless....a lot of my friends in Bosnia can't go on wikipedia and read about EVERYTHING because the internet in Bosnian does not even have 10% of what English does.
That is not fair...you are telling me what they need to do is find English translators to translate everything into Bosnian....yeah my ass you know how long that takes....it's so pointless...all the young people there learn English.

If English was the official language there, there would be no more Bosnian or Serbian or Croatian...that would kill nationalism and they would have better education and obviously that would speed up the spread of atheism...all that religious hate and bullshit would just die out.
 
MoltenRock III said:
I won't hire a person in my office that can't speak Mandarin in fact.
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:rolleyes:

It's this same bullshit thinking the reason so many Indians and Malays can't get employed in my country.

But whatever. I see nothing good coming out of Singapore's face full uninhibited rimming of China's arse.
 
Ram said:
:rolleyes:

It's this same bullshit thinking the reason so many Indians and Malays can't get employed in my country.

But whatever. I see nothing good coming out of Singapore's face full uninhibited rimming of China's arse.
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You mean other than an average income 15% higher than that of the average American. A 7% GDP growth rate this year after growing last year. Plus, a populace which has a 90% home ownership rate. So year I agree there's "nothing" to be gained. :rolleyes:
 
MoltenRock III said:
You mean other than an average income 15% higher than that of the average American. A 7% GDP growth rate this year after growing last year. Plus, a populace which has a 90% home ownership rate. So year I agree there's "nothing" to be gained. :rolleyes:
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I admit it was wrong for me to just simply blame China and its very beneficial growth. I guess my anger is mainly directed at people like you and our very own government making the rest of us feel like we are born in the wrong race.

Just because we don't speak Mandarin doesn't make us any less relevant. Not hiring people just because they don't speak a certain language is clearly discriminatory.
 
Fluent in Spanish and English. I'm currently studying French and understand a little bit of Portuguese (very little) because of Spanish. :P
 
Fluent in English! Haha. I can understand a lot of Spanish hearing it, after studying it for two years in high school and then two years in college and the prominence of the Spanish language in New Mexico. BUT I can't really converse in Spanish. >_<
 
Perfect English, Greek, German, very good Spanish and French, Russian, a bit Chinese and Japanese! I also speak Ancient Greek and Latin ("dead languages")
 
I completely forgot to mention that I have some reading knowledge of Haitian and Martinican Creole. For some reason this occurred to me as I was trying to fall asleep last night.
 
Sam Blum said:
The notion that Mandarin will be the dominant language in the next half century because of business is doubtful. Firstly, there are many arenas that languages operate in, and business is only one. Let's look to politics, sciences, philosophy, arts & culture, cuisine, literature, medicine & pharmacology. Just the other day, I had a discussion with a poli, a med. doctor and a retired pharmacist. The doc mentioned he was learning German (he's French and also has a Phd in English Lit.) and when asked why, he observed that German is the langue du jour for philosophy (for grammatical and other structural reasons). Then, two days later, another friend echoed this idea and said he's sending a nephew to Germany (from another Euro country) to improve his German before he begins at uni. to study Philosophy. If you want to discuss any Western ideas, I think it is incredibly important to be able to discuss and read in the relevant language fairly well, or miss out on vast amounts of information. Thoughts are to a large degree moulded by lingual experience and expressions, which have been moulded by cultural and topographical/geographical experiences. CHinese thoughts and Western thoughts, or for that matter any non-Chinese thoughts, are inherently different. Yes, more so than the differences between Euro languages because of grammar (or lack of) forcing a different stress into our expressions. And don't anybody start reading more into this than I imply or state: Anyone who speaks several languages understands the re-routing and para-phrasing that goes on in any cross-lingual interpretation.

Mandarin cannot replace English or any Euro language. Also, consider that if China wants to operate with the rest of the world in a money market, it will want to do so as quickly and readily as possible. The rest of the world will simply never invest time and resources for learning to write, or for that matter intone adequately to communicate fluently with the Chinese. The Chinese would be playing alone.
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I couldn't agree more.

German is very special indeed. When I pass from French to German, I come into a totally different mind set and I start thinking completely otherwise.

Many Western notions don't even exist in Chinese and conversely.
 
I am only fluent in English. But I know some French and Punjabi as well.

I think I am pretty good at reading and writing French but whenever I hear people speaking it or whenever I watch French TV shows or movies I can only pick out a few words. So I'm not that good at understanding French unless the person speaking French speaks really slowly for my benefit. My Parisian friend says my French is good, but I think she's just being nice lol.

I can understand Punjabi better. I may not know every single word said in the sentence but I usually understand most of it. But every now and then I sometimes don't understand what people are saying. I can only speak very basic Punjabi though, I think my ability to speak French is better. I can also read and write Punjabi but my reading-comprehension level isn't that high, so I usually don't understand a lot of what I'm reading. I think my vocabulary is higher for French than it is for Punjabi.
 
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