How masculine are you, on a scale from 0-10?

[diamondstar]

As masculine as Ash Crimson from KOF. Despite my non intimidating appearance, I will beat a bitch down.

 

[MoltenRock III]

Don't take it too seriously, darling.



Wouldn't you like to know?

What I find laughable my love, is the idea of how many str8 "manly men" do you think sits around with his buddies drinking a beer and rating his own or his buddies "masculinity"? By what culture are we supposed to rate another's "masculinity" or "femininity"? American? Canadian / English? Asian? European?

The sad thing is, so many Jubbers have such issues with their own sexuality and are desperate to conform to societal pressure of what "manliness" is; they refuse to live as themselves or shun what they despise (ie... Fats, femmes, etc).

It wouldn't be a big thing, or serious thing, if this wasn't a constant, multiple-thread starter every week, here at JUB. On average there's a new one every day, if not more, questioning JUB/gay men's masculinity.

It's self-destructive, wrong, and patently false to constantly force yourself into such a constrained construct of artificiality.

 

[JayHawk]

What I find laughable my love, is the idea of how many str8 "manly men" do you think sits around with his buddies drinking a beer and rating his own or his buddies "masculinity"? By what culture are we supposed to rate another's "masculinity" or "femininity"? American? Canadian / English? Asian? European?

The sad thing is, so many Jubbers have such issues with their own sexuality and are desperate to conform to societal pressure of what "manliness" is; they refuse to live as themselves or shun what they despise (ie... Fats, femmes, etc).

It wouldn't be a big thing, or serious thing, if this wasn't a constant, multiple-thread starter every week, here at JUB. On average there's a new one every day, if not more, questioning JUB/gay men's masculinity.

It's self-destructive, wrong, and patently false to constantly force yourself into such a constrained construct of artificiality.

Just for continuity sake are you now shifting to the stance that being fat is ok? Because you have posted some rather anti cellulite post in the past.

The JUB miracle to me is that it allows a open honest community of Gay men who have issues to deal with them.

Many folks do not have the luxury of multiculturalism to contrast life against. They get whats is put on their plate everyday. JUB allows people to question or learn... in sometimes fun and sometimes dramatic ways.

SO why would that be an issue?

Lack of confidence and questioning self are certainly NOT GLBT issues alone. The rest of humanity deals with the same things but most of us are obliged to hide or not discuss our sexuality. Therefore a ready outlet such as JUB for frolicking or realistic feedback is necessary.

 

[SilverWolf]

A five? You just mentioned waxing your legs the other day. I don't even do that! At the very least, you are a four.

Oh hush!

Besides I was kidding when I said I get my legs waxed. I haven't done so...yet!
But I'm so masculine that when I do get my legs waxed, I won't scream or cry in pain. (Of course it helps that I've barely got hair down there to begin with )

 

[BINOWGAYLATER]

k - that makes moltenrock at least an 8 >>>man with a braiin !! OMG now all the 4,5,6's are gonna say I said they don't have a brain......NOT. ...........

i know gays have their insecurities -(who doesn't) - but maybe that why when then excel at something - they really excel... it's a different kind of drive, i think.. to prove something.

I often wonder if straight men think I'm straight - it doesn't seem that gay's think I'm gay - maybe its the wedding ring that throws them off. IDK
I can't talk sports with guys, I can't open the hood of the car and fix anything.. I can cook, play the piano, grow exotic plants, and small children are generally afraid of me. when i get excited my voice goes up like 3 octives, and customer service reps on the phone are always saying yes ma'm to me !! so who the hell knows --

I used to get coffee from the most effeminate guy at a bakery -- and every time I saw him he got more and more "gay" - (to me) -- then I run into him in walmart with his wife and 2 boys -- i know - it doesn't mean anything - but I'm really glad I didn't put any money down. better not to judge !!

maybe a better question would have been "How good a person are you?"

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

me win

10 ans half

suck dat harry potta!

ha

 

[himeros]

I'm 5 or 6 esp coz I'm rather slim.

I'm very into men with 8-10. But 6-7 is also ok.

 

[AlmondMilk]

I'd say 3. Why? I'm not sure. I know I wouldn't be 6-10. But I'm kind of very laid back around people...usually....so that probably raises masculinity to about 5ish.

 

[matty20]

Thanks everyone for your responses. I say 8 for myself because, whilst I am masculine, and no one can tell that I am gay, I am not super-masculine, eg, I am not that into working-out, don't have big muscles, although I am broad, and am not into sports all that much. Apart from that, however, I am masculine. I don't really have any feminine traits at all, eg, am not into fashion, make-up and shows like Gossip Girl.

I go for men about 2, because I don't like 0-1s for being too girly, and wearing female clothes. I could tolerate higher, but my ideal is a 2, because I like being the "man" in a relationship. Yes, he is still a man as well, but I like being the traditional male part of the relationship. I like the contrast between my hairy body and his smooth body, and how caring and domestic (ie, can wash and cook every night, neither of which I like doing) they are. I also love the contrast of smooth, feminine body with a hard, throbbing dick down below.

 

[JayHawk]

WHoa tiger you have a shit ton of "not-necessarily-true" stereotypes assembled there.

I get what you like and that is fine. Some boys like that submissive role and are natural caretakers.

My ex was what I like to call a bossy bottom. He was certainly fem but wasn't about care taking in no way what so ever... (which is part of why his first name is EX)

That aside I would be careful attributing certain behaviors with certain levels of masculinity or perceived masculinity.

Nothing like getting topped by a big nelly bottom....lol

 

[Lube]

Thanks everyone for your responses. I say 8 for myself because, whilst I am masculine, and no one can tell that I am gay, I am not super-masculine, eg, I am not that into working-out, don't have big muscles, although I am broad, and am not into sports all that much. Apart from that, however, I am masculine. I don't really have any feminine traits at all, eg, am not into fashion, make-up and shows like Gossip Girl.

I go for men about 2, because I don't like 0-1s for being too girly, and wearing female clothes. I could tolerate higher, but my ideal is a 2, because I like being the "man" in a relationship. Yes, he is still a man as well, but I like being the traditional male part of the relationship. I like the contrast between my hairy body and his smooth body, and how caring and domestic (ie, can wash and cook every night, neither of which I like doing) they are. I also love the contrast of smooth, feminine body with a hard, throbbing dick down below.

So how do my boyfriend and I fit into your neat little world?

We both work out, have hairy bodies, and beards. I like to cook and garden and listen to dance music; he likes to clean, collects china, and loves broadway music.

Who's the "man" in this relationship?

You need to open your mind and have a lot to learn.

 

[JayHawk]

I am the man in your relationship now come here to daddy


....................Both of you

 

[Lube]

I am the man in your relationship now come here to daddy


....................Both of you

Ha ha! Nice.

 

[matty20]

WHoa tiger you have a shit ton of "not-necessarily-true" stereotypes assembled there.

I get what you like and that is fine. Some boys like that submissive role and are natural caretakers.

My ex was what I like to call a bossy bottom. He was certainly fem but wasn't about care taking in no way what so ever... (which is part of why his first name is EX)

That aside I would be careful attributing certain behaviors with certain levels of masculinity or perceived masculinity.

Nothing like getting topped by a big nelly bottom....lol

I knew that I would get some flack for that.

I am not stereotyping though. I am saying that I want a feminine man who WILL take care of domestic duties and is caring, and also with a smooth body. Though I didn't mention in the post, one who will take cock up the ass.

 

[matty20]

So how do my boyfriend and I fit into your neat little world?

We both work out, have hairy bodies, and beards. I like to cook and garden and listen to dance music; he likes to clean, collects china, and loves broadway music.

Who's the "man" in this relationship?

You need to open your mind and have a lot to learn.

But that's the thing, it is about what works for the individual couple. As I said, also, we are all men, but I want the more traditional male role.

 

[JayHawk]

I knew that I would get some flack for that.

I am not stereotyping though. I am saying that I want a feminine man who WILL take care of domestic duties and is caring, and also with a smooth body. Though I didn't mention in the post, one who will take cock up the ass.

It just seems as if you are assigning that trait to the effeminate.

Most drag queens I have ever known are str8 up tops.... which has always been an odd thing to me. But life is not black and white.... hell it is rarely gray.

 

[Lube]

But that's the thing, it is about what works for the individual couple. As I said, also, we are all men, but I want the more traditional male role.

You're just boxing yourself in to straight thinking.

Hell, even straight people don't think that way, what with many women being primary breadwinners nowadays.

The traditional male role went out of style in the 1960's.

 

[purina]

even my shocks have to be masculine and match in style and colour with my underwear

Muy macho! Please don't tell me if it's a typo.

I'll say a 10 to hide the insecurity that I really feel like a 3.

Oh, did I say that out loud?

I'd give you 7 for the beard alone. 10+ for the comment.

So, personality/physicality:
Me - 5/8, so 6½
"My man" - 5/10, so 7½

 

[matty20]

It just seems as if you are assigning that trait to the effeminate.

Most drag queens I have ever known are str8 up tops.... which has always been an odd thing to me. But life is not black and white.... hell it is rarely gray.

Not at all. I am just saying that I want a man with those attributes.

As for drag queens, I am not surprised, because as you said, life is not black and white, and also because Butch-femme relationships are not very prevalent, so there is a good chance that their partner is feminine as well.

 

[matty20]

You're just boxing yourself in to straight thinking.

Hell, even straight people don't think that way, what with many women being primary breadwinners nowadays.

The traditional male role went out of style in the 1960's.

I know, but by and large, men are still the primary breadwinners. And I am just saying that that is what I want.