How much do you believe that Jerry Sandusky is guilty of charges?

[wonderwort]

Let's hear from the court of public opinion .

How much do you believe that Jerry Sandusky is guilty of what he's charged with?

I voted mostly.

How about you?

 

[Lukeee]

I have never heard of him and I have no idea what he is accused of.

 

[JayHawk]

I agree mostly... I would go very very much simply due to the depth of complaints but I still (probably romantically) believe that the system should be allowed to work and without a shadow of a doubt prove he was diddling the little ones.

 

[Críostóir]

JayHawk, it's "beyond reasonable doubt." Beyond the shadow of a doubt is an impossible standard...unless your jurors are all idiots, there'll always be one who maintains a little doubt (as I do as a matter of principle). But reasonable doubt is another matter.

 

[MoufOfKhaos]

Not watching this circus. Said all I needed to say about the case in the other thread about it(though I think I didn't even speak of the case much, just called another poster out on his absolutely vile bullshit - they can share a cell together for all I care).

 

[Stardreamer]

I have never heard of him and I have no idea what he is accused of.

Banging 10 year old boys in the shower

 

[JayHawk]

JayHawk, it's "beyond reasonable doubt." Beyond the shadow of a doubt is an impossible standard...unless your jurors are all idiots, there'll always be one who maintains a little doubt (as I do as a matter of principle). But reasonable doubt is another matter.

That is what i was looking for.... beyond a shadow of reasonable doubtful doubting ...

Sometimes the words dont form up quite right.....

Early Alzheimers

 

[bw92116]

I believe he is guilty of doing what he is accused of, but that the victims will probably milk this for every penny they can get.

 

[wonderwort]

I always noticed that alot gay men would cry foul at the police and media when

1) Gay men are arrested for cruising public toilets

2) Ex gay porn stars lose their non porn jobs.

But NOBODY sides with accused child molesters.

(Just an observation)

 

[MoufOfKhaos]

^And those relate how, exactly?great, i'm asking for an answer I won't get.

 

[wonderwort]

^And those relate how, exactly?great, i'm asking for an answer I won't get.

I dont know the nature of your question but we're talking about accused child molester.

I was just making an observation that general public would label men who cruise, ex gay porn stars and child molesters as "scumbags.

But we in gay community would label men who cruise or ex gay porn stars as ""victims'.

 

[MoufOfKhaos]

I dont know the nature of your question but we're talking about accused child molester.

I was just making an observation that general public would label men who cruise, ex gay porn stars and child molesters as "scumbags.

Because the general public don't see a difference between the three.
Because the "general" public are morons.

But we in gay community would label men who cruise or ex gay porn stars as ""victims'.

"We" have our own minds. A man that fucks in a public setting and gets caught is not a victim - a person that does something in the past and is being punished for it may very well be, but that has more to do with how prudish society really is. That's why some gay people label an ex (or hell, even current) gay(bi/straight) porn star that are fired from another job because of what they used to do as victims.

Which I still feel doesn't relate to a man accused of molesting several kids and the coverup that followed.

 

[JayHawk]

Yet society as a whole views the three actions as almost identical and thinks if you are gay you will eventually molest their children. Even folks who say they side with gay rights sometimes show that sort of ignorant thought.

The same is not always thought true but is often the case between adult women and minor boys. Yet the penalties rendered are ridiculous for the female perpetrators.

 

[maxpowr9]

Regardless of allegations, his lawyer alone should be disbarred for being a complete moron.

To quote his attorney...

"Some of these kids don't have basic hygiene skills," attorney Karl Rominger said. "Teaching a person to shower at the age of 12 or 14 sounds strange to some people, but people who work with troubled youth will tell you there are a lot of juvenile delinquents and people who are dependent who have to be taught basic life skills like how to put soap on their body."

 

[asu1117]

Quite honestly, I don't think this is an appropriate topic to make into a poll. That seems to make light of it, imo. I do think he is guilty.

 

[Críostóir]

That is what i was looking for.... beyond a shadow of reasonable doubtful doubting ...

Sometimes the words dont form up quite right.....

Early Alzheimers

LOL sorry about that! I entirely sympathize. I said "that's the last coffin that broke the camel's nails" the other day. (I did it on purpose, but only after I thought of it.)

I always noticed that alot gay men would cry foul at the police and media when

1) Gay men are arrested for cruising public toilets

"Crime" with no victim.

2) Ex gay porn stars lose their non porn jobs.

People being persecuted for producing a product that we've enjoyed, and that is legal to produce.

But NOBODY sides with accused child molesters.

Scumbags who victimize the MOST vulnerable, and rely on their positions of power (as in this case) to get away with it. The privileged making use of privilege to exploit the weakest.

And we should sympathize why?

Now, innocent until proven guilty and all that. I'm generally careful to say that. But the evidence against Sandusky is definitely pretty damning.

 

[mygaybuffet]

He is guiltier than Michael Pedophile and OJ Killer combined. Had he been a priest, he just might have gotten away with it!

 

[Nomenclature]

It was the way he answered when Bob Costas interviewed him. He was asked "Are you sexually attracted to children?". and it seemed like he gave this really long, drawn out answer . He was obviously stalling for time, and it seemed like he couldn't just say "No."

If you aren't attracted to children, and you know you're innocent, wouldn't you just quickly say "No!" ? I think most of us would.

 

[Asenath]

It is common, when an accused rapist cannot defend himself on the grounds of inconsistencies in a victim's testimony, to start making spurious claims about his accuser. This seems to be the Sandusky defense strategy. If I hadn't been convinced beforehand - I'd certainly think he was guilty after that.

 

[jdbadboy]

I believe he taught those boys good sportsmanship, team spirit, and proper hygiene.


And then he fucked them.