How Much Hotter Is Your State?

[BostonPirate]

jack... lol

the cement creates a regional difference in the overnight temps. Cement hangs onto the heat, so it keeps the evenings in the city warmer.

we are talking about a completely different process and just by what you have said, I KNOW you have never seen the film I posted a link to.

and buddy?

when you have to intellectually choose between the scientific facts or political dogma? when you are so threatened by someone's idea that you cannot even tolerate hearing it?

its time to reconsider the way you make decisions.

 

[MoltenRock III]

...and no, you don't have me in a trap for agreeing with man-made global warming. The whole theory is combustible engines, coal, etc.

Cities were smaller 50 years ago. Less everything that trapped heat. In all theories you have to have a control group. There is no control group in the emotional global warming religion.

So I'm guessing one of your solutions to curbing global warming would be to cut down on the population therefore, less concrete, steel, asphalt. That's already been tried by Stalin, Mao, and a few other people.

So you admit that man made warming is a real phenomenon from building roads, buildings, etc... but you cannot see how other sources of man made things might play a part?

More importantly, would you be in favor of having incentives or help to build living roofs where temperatures plunge by 20 degrees or more? Also, would you be in favor of porous road surfaces that allow rainwater to filter thru the surface without it all just running off, as well as other programs / incentives to reduce "urban heat island" effects?

 

[Kulindahr]

I'm confused. So are you saying that man made, increased asphalt and concrete coverage, is responsible for the higher temperatures?

It skews readings in urban areas; even a town of 10k is big enough for the effect to be important. But it can be adjusted for, and we have plenty of stations in the countryside.

Heat is absorbed by all the steel and asphalt and released slowly overnight, so nighttime highs are elevated; daytime temperatures can be affected as well, especially after a long heat spell.

But it's not a big factor in climate -- the heat generated by all the machines in a city is more significant, I think.

 

[Kulindahr]

BTW, here on the Oregon coast we're still waiting to get some summer.

 

[Jack Springer]

So you admit that man made warming is a real phenomenon from building roads, buildings, etc... but you cannot see how other sources of man made things might play a part?

More importantly, would you be in favor of having incentives or help to build living roofs where temperatures plunge by 20 degrees or more? Also, would you be in favor of porous road surfaces that allow rainwater to filter thru the surface without it all just running off, as well as other programs / incentives to reduce "urban heat island" effects?

Porous road surfaces in an area that is constantly freezing and thawing during the winter?

We would have no road left where I live.

 

[mbamike]

We hit 100° F yesterday and broke a record last week. Right now it is 91° F. Hazy, hot, and humid summers are the norm for this part of the country. We have rain in the form of thunderstorms in the afternoon and evenings.

 

[TheFireGod]

Never got above 94F yet in my area of west coast Florida as far as I know. But the humidity is obviously very uncomfortable here.

For the past few days, and continuing for a few more, the winds have shifted from the west; so it's either cloudy or raining because of the 90F Gulf temperature.

Basically it's a warmer, flatter, more tropical looking, no front license plates on cars version of the Pacific Northwest.

 

[palemale]

New York City has been hot this summer and last. We had two 100 degree days. I think we had one or two 100 degree days last year. We used to get one 100 degree day every 10 or so years. It's only 80 degrees here right now at around 2:30 p.m, but it looks like it's going to rain.

The winters have definitely been warmer in the last decade or so. However, we've had much more severe snowstorms.

I looked at the National Weather Service records for our weather station, which is in Central Park. Since weather records have been kept, of the top ten biggest snowstorms, five have occurred in the last ten years, six in the last 15 and three in the last year. We have had 8 storms of 19" or greater. Again, 5 of the 8 have been in the last 10 years, 6 of the 8 in the last 15 years, and 3 of the 8 fell in the span of one year in the past two winters, from Feb 2010 to Jan 2011. Two of the top ten (and top 8) occurred one month apart. http://www.erh.noaa.gov/okx/climate/records/footplussnow.html

Because it is warmer, there is more water evaporation, and therefore heavier snowstorms in the winter.

Our annual rainfall has been above average for quiet a few years now.

 

[chance1]

^ just got back to NYC Saturday - roamed Manhattan (so good to be back) and it was gross - 90's and humid

despite that it was awesome

was in San Diego for 3 weeks prior - 75 every day - ridiculously good weather

despite that I would not trade NY for San Diego

but I've noticed since my time back that even the evenings are warmer - muggier - uncomfortable - sort of a drag

 

[TX-Beau]

Today's been downright cool, it's only gotten up to 101.

Honestly, going into August with this kind of heat is pretty depressing, it's only going to get hotter.

 

[palemale]

^ just got back to NYC Saturday - roamed Manhattan (so good to be back) and it was gross - 90's and humid

despite that it was awesome

was in San Diego for 3 weeks prior - 75 every day - ridiculously good weather

despite that I would not trade NY for San Diego

but I've noticed since my time back that even the evenings are warmer - muggier - uncomfortable - sort of a drag

You're too sensitive, Chance. I've been sleeping with the windows open and the air conditioning off, despite the street noise. But then, I grew up without air conditioning.

 

[Ganymede4]

I thank Gods that tomorrow and next week will be in the 80s in Virginia

 

[Kulindahr]

I thank Gods that tomorrow and next week will be in the 80s in Virginia

I wish we could have some 80s. This has been the coldest, wettest summer I remember.

 

[thermodynamics]

For Minnesota, that map shows exactly what's happened, and it's even more exaggerated this summer.

The highs of recent years are only a little higher than historical norms. The lows, however, are up by several degrees. Dewpoints have increased dramatically. Moorhead, MN broke the all-time state record dewpoint with 88 degF. The added heat capacity of more humid air, along with more urban heat island, is to blame.

 

[construct]

This is the worst summer since at least 1980. Right now it's 8:30 PM, and it's 99˚. We have had triple digit highs for more than a month, and the current forecast shows the same for the next six days.

Around here, if it sprinkles on the neighbor's yard for five minutes, people say that it's rained!

 

[JayHawk]

You're too sensitive, Chance. I've been sleeping with the windows open and the air conditioning off, despite the street noise. But then, I grew up without air conditioning.

Being acclimated is the best way to beat the heat. However Chance was just experiencing Nirvana-lag. It is like jet lag but only experienced when you depart the nirvana of San Diego weather to any part of the country that has the term 'MUGGY' in their summer vocabulary.......

I wish we could have some 80s. This has been the coldest, wettest summer I remember.

Dont say cold and wet so close together like that you make me think of my ex.

This is the worst summer since at least 1980. Right now it's 8:30 PM, and it's 99˚. We have had triple digit highs for more than a month, and the current forecast shows the same for the next six days.

Around here, if it sprinkles on the neighbor's yard for five minutes, people say that it's rained!

The thing that kills me is these folks in KC water the lawn in the middle of a rain storm, in the middle of the 108 degree days, and in the middle of the night. I have never been to more watered place and that includes San Diego which is fake and watered in as it gets.

Must be a 'by the river' mindset.

 

[JB3]

I wish we could have some 80s. This has been the coldest, wettest summer I remember.

You can take some of the midwest's. Hottest summer I can remember, and I didn't have AC in my car.

What's been a killer hasn't been the heat though, its been the humidity. When its 95 degrees out with low humidity, that's fine. But when its 95 degrees out and 90% humidity? That's AWFUL.

 

[MoltenRock III]

You can take some of the midwest's. Hottest summer I can remember, and I didn't have AC in my car.

What's been a killer hasn't been the heat though, its been the humidity. When its 95 degrees out with low humidity, that's fine. But when its 95 degrees out and 90% humidity? That's AWFUL.

You weren't hot. That was just manufactured by the gubermint, ya know.


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[TheOscar]

Seems to have gone up by .02 over here in my state. Ugh, I hate the heat. I can't wait until the winter. WOO!

 

[palemale]

New York City has had some pretty nice weather the last week. I haven't had the air conditioner on since about last Saturday.