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How would you classify this person?

Christopher123 said:
I have. She never answers. She only complains about her weight in front of overweight women. But with her friends she thinks she's perfect. So we assume she's just trying to make the heavy girls jealous.
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Well in that case tell her to strike a pose and shut the fuck up. In the friendliest way possible, of course.
 
Chris, it doesn't sound like a transgender issue to me but rather a body image issue. She really needs some therapy to explore these feeliings of hers to figure out where they came from and why they are there.

As long as she feels that way about her body, it is sure to spill over and affect her self-esteem and leave her feeling very unhappy.
 
Marvels said:
Well in that case tell her to strike a pose and shut the fuck up. In the friendliest way possible, of course.
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lol, many people have told her to do that, in so many words.

Riverrick said:
Chris, it doesn't sound like a transgender issue to me but rather a body image issue. She really needs some therapy to explore these feeliings of hers to figure out where they came from and why they are there.

As long as she feels that way about her body, it is sure to spill over and affect her self-esteem and leave her feeling very unhappy.
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I think you're right. But the girl literally wishes she was a man.

I mean, how do you respond to something like that? :?
 
Really, the only option is to listen to her. I doubt that there are many people that she feels comfortable enough to talk to about this. And there is nothing that you can say to make a person feel better about that problem.

I will say that with the sorry state of FTM surgery, lack of desire of it does not signify lack of GID.

Hell, my main reason that I am not interested in surgery may be that I value the feelings of my family over myself but even if they were not an issue, transition seems way too experimental now. Especially since they still can't guarentee normal urination or sex functions. Not to mention the fact that you have to live two years as the opposite sex, before surgery, in this world...

Yes the feelings that we have are irrational but that does not make us all irrational people. Some of us view it as too much trouble and money just for the right to have strangers view us in the same light that we have always viewed ourselves. We simply learn to cope.
 
Chris: Ship her off to Thailand and surprise her with a sex-change operation. I'm actually planning to drug Evs over here and do the very same thing! Humanely of course.

That or you can always wait for the M2F Reality show that would eventually come up should producers have really no idea left what to stick in their timeslot.
 
Evsann said:
Really, the only option is to listen to her. I doubt that there are many people that she feels comfortable enough to talk to about this. And there is nothing that you can say to make a person feel better about that problem.
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This does seem like the best approach.

BTW, interesting post Evsann.
 
Evsann said:
Not to mention the fact that you have to live two years as the opposite sex, before surgery, in this world...
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Are you serious? :confused:

I didn't know that.

Evsann said:
Yes the feelings that we have are irrational but that does not make us all irrational people. Some of us view it as too much trouble and money just for the right to have strangers view us in the same light that we have always viewed ourselves. We simply learn to cope.
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Irrational to some, maybe, but not to all. I mean, who decides it's irrational, ya know? People that don't agree with you. People that do agree or that can at least try and understand where you're coming from don't think it's irrational. They're YOUR feelings. And I appreciate your comments and insight on this subject (*8*)
 
So, she wants to be a guy but is also attracted to guys sexually. Is this sort of thing very common? I thought transgendered people were generally attracted to their same sex (before any sex change)?
 
Riverrick said:
So, she wants to be a guy but is also attracted to guys sexually. Is this sort of thing very common? I thought transgendered people were generally attracted to their same sex (before any sex change)?
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That's why it confused me. She said she wants to live as a gay male. But then said she wouldn't have the courage to go through with an actual sex change.

I mean, there's a LOT involved there. Not just the money and the surgery itself, but what you tell you family and friends and that sort of thing.
 
Actually most transexuals are attracted to the opposite sex before transisiton. This is kind of what makes it so screwed up. It led to a lot of static between the transgendered and lesbian feminist(sp?) communities in the 80's and 90's.

On average though, you don't hear too much about FTM's.


Edit: Just read marvel's post again... Just as long as I don't have to leave a kidney or two there to get it.
 
I do have to say that while I have never been attracted to men, there was a very embarrassing incident in the shower room back in highschool after football practice. I had never been undressed around other guys before and the thought of being looked on by them kind of aroused me. Word got out and I never found peace in that school again. Ever.


At first I wondered what could have caused the feeling. I also felt it when ever I was changing in public pool locker rooms as a kid. I can never tell if my interest in being seen or even desired by men had anything to do with my identity issues or if they stood on their own. I really need to find a therapist.

Happy Thanksgiving by the way.
 
Evsann said:
At first I wondered what could have caused the feeling. I also felt it when ever I was changing in public pool locker rooms as a kid. I can never tell if my interest in being seen or even desired by men had anything to do with my identity issues or if they stood on their own. I really need to find a therapist.
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That might be a good idea. I mean, it certainly wouldn't hurt to talk to someone to see if you can get your feelings sorted out. My friend said she might do the same.

Happy Thanksgiving to you too (*8*)
 
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