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HUNTING (Why Kill Wild Animals?)

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finally a common sense look at hunting:.....|...

I am an Environmentalist, and I Hunt: Why?

I have actively volunteered and supported efforts to help restore wolves in the West; protect our remaining roadless lands on National Forests; ensure our designated wilderness areas are being managed as they should; to have more lands designated as wilderness, and to restore grizzlies to the Selway Bitterroot Wilderness. I am a former employee of the U.S. Forest Service, have worked for several nonprofit wildlife conservation organizations, and recently worked on Global Warming issues for the National Wildlife Federation. I am also a member of Wilderness Watch, the Wilderness Society, Audubon, The Nature Conservancy and other such groups.

And I hunt. I kill and eat wild elk and wild deer.

Does this seem contradictory? It's not if you consider our Nation's environmental heritage, and see that most of our environmental heroes---including Theodore Roosevelt (who created the national forests and wildlife refuges), Aldo Leopold (author of the environmental classic, "A Sand County Almanac) and Olaus J. Murie (founder of The Wilderness Society)---were all hunters.

I can understand people's disdain for hunting. As Edward Abbey (himself a hunter) once wrote, "Hunting is one of the hardest things even to think about. Such a storm of conflicting emotion!" I can't speak for all hunters, but will try and explain why I choose to hunt.

I love elk and deer. They are a magnificent, mysterious and powerful animals. I spend all the time I can in elk and deer country, year-round, hiking, backpacking, backcountry skiing and snowshoeing, observing and admiring elk and deer. And yet, each year during bowseason I head into elk and deer country with the intent to kill one. Why? Partly because I can think of no more ecologically-sound way to live. I cherish wild elk and deer meat; it's healthy, and it's derived from healthy, native grasses and forbs in the wilds.

I hunt to experience and celebrate a fundamental connection with nature, because we must all kill to eat, and eating elk and deer nourished on native grasses and forbs has as low an impact on the environment as any of the alternatives. Even eating soybeans and soy-based products supports an agricultural industry that displaces and destroys wildlife habitat to grow a non-native plant, requiring irrigation, pesticides, herbicides, fossil fuels, trucks, roads and industry to be shipped around the country. Not to mention the thousands of deer and other wildlife killed to protect valuable agricultural crops. Most people are not aware of the impacts of their lifestyles and actions, or they choose to live in denial. The fact is, we all have impacts on the environment and wildlife. We all contribute to the killing of wildlife and animals to live.

Everything we do has consequences. Whether we choose to eat vegetables or meat, store-bought food or homegrown, cattle or venison, we all contribute to the death of animals so we can eat. I choose to eat the wild meat of elk, mule deer and antelope. And the money I spend in pursuit of these wild animals, through license fees and excise taxes on hunting equipment, helps protect the wild places that sustain them and sustain me. It's the most efficient, environmentally sound and sustainable way I know to live. And the countless days and hours I spend pursuing elk and deer through the rugged mountains in the wilderness areas where I hunt have provided me with a keen understanding and awareness of these incredible animals and their habitat, which has fueled a passion for the protection of wild elk, deer and other wildlife, and the wild places they roam.

North America's system of wildlife management, of which regulated hunting is an integral part, is a tremendous achievement. The value of wild elk and deer to hunters supports the protection and enhancement of wildlife habitat for an array and abundance of wildlife, including large predators and threatened and endangered species, and supports ecologically-based research and management. It's a sustainable system that gives many hunters a stake in wildlife, and fuels public understanding and concern for conservation.

I am growing increasingly upset over the ongoing loss of crucial wildlife habitat from human subdivision and development. Throughout the West, homes are rapidly replacing critical elk and deer winter range, calving and fawning habitat and migratory corridors. Not only elk and deer suffer, but all wildlife that depend on that habitat, including everything from ducks and trout to grizzlies and pine martens. My love for wild elk and deer provokes a strong desire to protect their habitat; That desire is fueled, in part, by my passion for hunting and the meat that sustains me.

So, in a nutshell, this is how and why I can cherish wildlife and hunting. I can think of no better lifestyle than roaming wildlands as a participant of nature, taking responsibility for the deaths I cause, and securing my own sustenance. In his essay, "A Hunter's Heart," Colorado naturalist and writer David Petersen summarizes it nicely:

"Why do I hunt? It's a lot to think about, and I think about it a lot. I hunt to acknowledge my evolutionary roots, millennia deep, as a predatory omnivore. To participate actively in the bedrock workings of nature. For the atavistic challenge of doing it well with an absolute minimum of technological assistance. To learn the lessons, about nature and myself, that only hunting can teach. To accept personal responsibilities for at least some of the deaths that nourish my life. For the glimpse it offers into a wildness we can hardly imagine. Because it provides the closet thing I've known to a spiritual experience. I hunt because it enriches my life and because I can't help myself . . . because I was born with a hunter's heart."

Some people suggest instead of a gun (or, in my case, a bow), that we hunters "shoot" elk and deer with a camera. I have taken, and occasionally still take, photographs of elk. But it is not the same as hunting. And it is certainly not a "natural" or "sustainable" relationship with animals. Photos do not provide me with winter food for my freezer.

This is not to say that hunting and hunters are not without flaw. Certainly, there are a lot (and far too many) unethical hunters pursuing animals, who care little about the wildlife and good wildlife stewardship. Hunters need to do a better job at fostering a better sense of stewardship, responsibility and ethics among hunters; encouraging the highest standards of ethical conduct among all who hunt, and foster a deeper respect for the land and the wildlife it supports. In some ways, I often feel like an anti-hunter who hunts, disgusted and appalled at the behavior and attitudes of most hunters.

Edward Abbey is right on: It is a lot to think about, a storm of conflicting emotions indeed, but perhaps every body, particularly anti-hunters, should think a bit more deeply about where their food comes from, and what the consequences are.

We all kill to eat.
 
First of all, welcome to CE&P. A couple of housekeeping issues, if I may. I don't know if you wrote this wonderful piece or not. If you didn't, that's fine. In the future, if you want to cite an outside source cut an paste a few lines so that we have an idea of the subject matter. A link to the full story is the best way to avoid copyright issues. A few lines as to what your opinion is or why you think the story is worthwhile is also something we like to see.

You don't have to sell me on hunting. It's a wonderful opportunity to enjoy the outdoors and commune with nature. Elk, deer and buffalo make for some fine table fare, too!
 
Several years ago I was taking a group of college students on a field trip. We were going through a wooded area where there were some deer standing in a clearing. One of the young men sitting in the back of the bus exclaimed:

"Man oh man, look at those deer! Damn, I wish I had my gun!!".

Killing for fun was something I could never understand. Doing so for meat and / or survival is one thing, but for fun and sport is another. Must have something to do with too much testosterone or how men are hardwired.

Hunting I understand, but not the kind where they put some animals in a pen and shoot them when they can't get away. That's not sport; that's killing. It's barbaric.
 
Other than hunting as pure sport, I have no issue with hunting. The entire food chain is based on critters and animals eating OTHER LIVING (OR KILLED) ORGANISMS. Humans hunting deer (for example) for meat, is no different than the owl which hunts field mice, or the crocodile which hunts the wildebeest crossing the Congo.

The difference is that humans are not born with effective natural weapons to allow successful hunting; that is where the traps, the rifles, the bows-and-arrows, come into play. The lion doesn't need the assistance of any external weaponry. (And, not having opposable digits, they might not be able to use a weapon very well even if they needed one, lol.)

I don't hunt myself, mainly because I'm simply too busy with other stuff, and I can't imagine sitting still for hours, or even days, waiting for that deer to come by. There are other kinds of hunting that would be a lot more rewarding, I think - deer hunting seems to me to be the very WORST as far as the amount of absolute patience needed, and the ability to endure long stretches of complete boredom and tedium. Many deer hunters I've known througout my lifetime will go somewhere for a week of vacation...and return with NOTHING.

I've also always found it interesting that I've known any number of people who will say something like "HUNTING? No, FORGET IT, I could not possibly *EVER* hunt. Shooting a deer or squirrels? No. Can't do it!!" - but they will readily go FISHING. Hey, fishing is "hunting" as well - just using a different medium (water).

Maybe it's because deer are so much "cuter" than fish, so people feel bad about hunting THOSE kind of animals?
 
I have wanted to go hunting for a long time. I don’t know if I will ever get too now, but I do live in a good place for it.
 
Very interesting to read, but I still maintain that one must have some kind of a mean streak to be able to kill an animal. To say things like

"I hunt to acknowledge my evolutionary roots, millennia deep, as a predatory omnivore. To participate actively in the bedrock workings of nature. For the atavistic challenge of doing it well with an absolute minimum of technological assistance. To learn the lessons, about nature and myself, that only hunting can teach."

seems like someone trying to turn killing an animal into something profound and mystical. People hunt because they want to hunt.
 
When I was a kid, my parents did not buy me guns (cap pistols or bb guns). The closest thing to a gun I had was one that shot ping-pong balls and of course, the usual squirt guns.

Son of our next-door neighbor (a moron) shot a nighthawk with his .22 rifle. He seemed thrilled, but the dripping blood really grossed me out.

Currently, there is an overabundance of deer near my place. I think they should be shot... with veterinary birth-control (please don't tell the Pope).

However, I do not pass judgment on hunters. Hunting is their right and privilege. Just count me out. ..|
 
Very interesting to read, but I still maintain that one must have some kind of a mean streak to be able to kill an animal. To say things like

"I hunt to acknowledge my evolutionary roots, millennia deep, as a predatory omnivore. To participate actively in the bedrock workings of nature. For the atavistic challenge of doing it well with an absolute minimum of technological assistance. To learn the lessons, about nature and myself, that only hunting can teach."

seems like someone trying to turn killing an animal into something profound and mystical. People hunt because they want to hunt.

Do you eat meat?

If you do, you should stop. You plainly don't have the inner strength to do it yourself, and if you wouldn't do it yourself, you have no business eating any.


And if you've never killed an animal, you have no standing at all to comment on whether doing so is profound or mystical.
 
I have no problem with hunting that serves an actual purpose. However, sport hunting and the idea that anybody finds killing another creature "enjoyable" thoroughly disgusts me. In fact, these people scare me. When children throw rocks at stray cats with the intent of killing them, we tend to think there is something psychologically wrong with that child, but give a man a gun and let him shoot deer for sport and gleefully tack the antlers up on his wall...
 
I have no problem with hunting that serves an actual purpose. However, sport hunting and the idea that anybody finds killing another creature "enjoyable" thoroughly disgusts me. In fact, these people scare me. When children throw rocks at stray cats with the intent of killing them, we tend to think there is something psychologically wrong with that child, but give a man a gun and let him shoot deer for sport and gleefully tack the antlers up on his wall...

Why do you think hunting deer for sport serves no purpose?
 
Hmmm cause they are tasty?

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Why do you think hunting deer for sport serves no purpose?

Hunt because that's how you get food, or hunt because there is a known population issue (that was most likely caused by humans in the first place and is therefore their responsibility to correct). I don't think it's right to kill animals for recreation. The idea that there are people out there who find pleasure in watching the life drain out of another living creature disturbs me. Obviously there are others who feel differently.
 
Hunt because that's how you get food, or hunt because there is a known population issue (that was most likely caused by humans in the first place). I don't think it's right to kill animals for recreation. The idea that there are people out there who find pleasure in watching the life drain out of another living creature disturbs me. Obviously there are others who feel differently.

Okay, it disturbs you -- but why do you say that hunting for sport serves no purpose?
 
Okay, it disturbs you -- but why do you say that hunting for sport serves no purpose?

Because I see no value in killing another creature for "fun". I don't believe anything deserves to die simply because somebody wants to have fun. I suppose you could be a sport hunter taking part in one of those population control hunts (doesn't stop me from being disturbed by you taking pleasure in it, however), but if you just go out into the woods and shoot deer because you want to mount their antlers on your wall, I won't voice support for that.
 
Do you eat meat?

If you do, you should stop. You plainly don't have the inner strength to do it yourself, and if you wouldn't do it yourself, you have no business eating any.


And if you've never killed an animal, you have no standing at all to comment on whether doing so is profound or mystical.

It doesn't matter if you eat meat or Soy burgers you kill off species to eat food. You may not have the gut to do it yourself or a person may have a clean conscience because of ignorance but make no mistake. If you eat then an animal is misplaced or killed to allow you to eat.

Always amazed me that some vegetarians would eat eggs. I figured death was just a matter of timing for some.


I wonder when I retire if I could live off the land for about a year. No stores. Just what I can plant and what I can catch and kill? And no i am not asking if it is possible... i just wonder if I could.
 
Because I see no value in killing another creature for "fun". I don't believe anything deserves to die simply because somebody wants to have fun. I suppose you could be a sport hunter taking part in one of those population control hunts (doesn't stop me from being disturbed by you taking pleasure in it, however), but if you just go out into the woods and shoot deer because you want to mount their antlers on your wall, I won't voice support for that.

Ah -- you misunderstand hunting, then: it's not possible to hunt just to put antlers on your wall -- that's illegal. You have to bring back the meat for use, you have to bring back the hide for use.

BTW, I've met plenty of sport hunters, and I've never met anyone who kills for fun.
 
It doesn't matter if you eat meat or Soy burgers you kill off species to eat food. You may not have the gut to do it yourself or a person may have a clean conscience because of ignorance but make no mistake. If you eat then an animal is misplaced or killed to allow you to eat.

The animal is going to die anyway. At least the ones hunters take got a have a real life.
 
Agreed.

Although i would like to see hunting evolve into a sprt where they have even odds.

I wonder how many fifty year olds would be out there with a buck knife against a mountain lion.
 
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