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I can't recommend Linux to anyone

The only real issue or concern i have with the latest linux releases is that the older ones seemed to work better. knoppix 4.0 was the last one that worked flawlessly on each of my two desktops and my laptop. PCLinux used to work well on all of them also. but nothing since seems to run that well. of course that could all be my problems but... that is part of why i fell in love with knoppix. it's ease of use. it's not easy anymore. :(
 
The Linux community is very DIY. If a problem occurs the community usually fixes it. This is why people like Linux is for the customization of it. If there is a problem you just fix it and it's fine.
 
mike_n_herrin said:
The only real issue or concern i have with the latest linux releases is that the older ones seemed to work better. knoppix 4.0 was the last one that worked flawlessly on each of my two desktops and my laptop. PCLinux used to work well on all of them also. but nothing since seems to run that well. of course that could all be my problems but... that is part of why i fell in love with knoppix. it's ease of use. it's not easy anymore. :(
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Im abit ticked off that they dropped the proprietary driver for my ATI card on my older tower. Damn thing is only three years old too. Their opensource driver isn't as good, i always get diagonal tearing during playback. But Ubuntu's gotten so bloated and i only really use the tower to play and inventory movies, music and tv series, so i installed the much more minimalistic CrunchBang (#!) and everything plays smoothly now and the system runs on 90mb of ram.

Though my 6 month old netbook has Ubuntu with all the bling (compiz) installed :p Im kinda stuck with Ubuntu on the netbook since they havent come up with an opensource driver for broadcom wireless yet, and installing the proprietary driver on any other debian-based distro is a pain, and it breaks on every kernel update.

jcoop1 said:
The Linux community is very DIY. If a problem occurs the community usually fixes it. This is why people like Linux is for the customization of it. If there is a problem you just fix it and it's fine.
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Ive gotten used to that :p though i don't share my solutions since i usually don't get any helpful or constructive insight.
 
i think you make more money as a linux tech because its not as user friendly right?
 
Well it's not as great and stable as it's supporters would have you believe. But after six years of it ive understandably become a bit disillusioned. A lot of people distro-hop too. What's broken in one distro works in the other, and six months later the tables turn.
 
Hi everyone. :wave:

I'll start off my first post in this forum by suggesting that anyone who is planning to run a GNU/Linux distro on what is ostensibly Windows-only hardware would do well to stick with nVidia-based graphics, and to Google the machine's make, model, and revision number, plus the prospective distro(s) version, in order to flush out any potential 'gotchas' before doing a full install. (Using live CD/DVD install discs to confirm hardware compatibility is prudent as well.)

After using the above vetting process, and then dual-booting between Windows XP Pro SP2 & 3 and Ubuntu 8.04, 8.04.1, 9.04, and then 9.10 on the older PC hardware I use (an ASUS P4P800-E Deluxe mainboard, S478 P4 3.20 GHz, 3GB RAM, nVidia-based eVGA 6200 AGP 3.0 graphics etc) for about a year or so, Windows XP gradually fell by the wayside as my Ubuntu experience - and frustration with Windows' anti-malware rituals - grew.

When I recently bought an acer Aspire 5517-1536 (an inexpensive notebook to use in riskier environments), I did a month-long shootout between its included install of Windows 7 Home Premium and Ubuntu 10.04. Windows 7 lasted a month before I switched to running a 100% Ubuntu 10.10 setup on both of my machines.

For those who are the market for new hardware and who are also weary of Windows' malware issues, here are some links to sources of GNU/Linux-compatible hardware:

Hmm... I've just been informed that I'm not allowed to include URL links in my posts until after my post count reaches 25. From what I've seen of JustUsBoys thus far that shouldn't take long. ;)

I'll post functioning links later on. Meanwhile one can copy & paste their relevant portions:

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evanrick said:
i think you make more money as a linux tech because its not as user friendly right?
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No. It's because Linux is in such demand right now.

Suddenly, Linux is in every electronic device around. It runs your TV, your Tivo, your telephone, your router, and your printer. It runs your media player and your GPS device. It powers every super computer and almost every large web site on the internet.

There is a severe shortage of Linux programmers to support all of that interest. So, people with Linux skills command a higher salary.
 
^ We have a Linux LPAR running on our mainframe at work! What skills would you recommend for a Linux programmer (on any platform)? C/C++, Java ?

I wonder what the JUB servers run?
 
A grab bag of primarily Ubuntu (but also GNU/Linux)-related links:

Linux - Distro-Junkies Unite!
<http://anonym.to/?http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=677897>
 
JohannBessler said:
I've always believed that, Purplebic.

Linux is just too hard for the ordinary man.
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An ordinary man cannot
  • install / update the operating system
  • create things like bootable flash drives

totally regardless of the operating system use. The ordinary man can just start the computer, login, open a browser, download porn, open Word and maybe type a letter. So I don't get the whole point of making an operating system Administration more user friendly than it is now. A big negative example are the network connections in Windows Vista/7. An ordinary man still cannot configure a TCP/IP network. The expert now also cannot because in every new version of Windows they're hiding the ugly Network connection settings even better behind some pointless Wizzards.
Ubuntu is doing just fine with it: the settings are easy and simple, the administrative tools are clean and allow the advanced user/expert to find the settings easily. There is no point in making the interface more user friendly if the normal user simply doesn't have the knowledge and doesn't know what to do.

This might sound a bit arrogant but it is totally normal. I cannot fix my car or upgrade the engine or software of it. And that's totally fine because just to drive I don't have to know it and there are experts around to solve these problems.

Cheers,
Neph
 
I think the above post misses a few things. Most people are getting a lot better with computers and can do a hell of lot more than just the basics.

You'd have to be blind-ape retarded not to be able to configure your home network in Windows 7. It tells you EXACTLY WHAT TO DO and practically does it for you.

That said, there are disadvantages to Windows 7. Like other versions, it's definitely resource hungry. It's been very stable for me though.

I also dual boot into whichever Linux distribution catches my fancy at the time. It's great for mathematical computing, or programming in, and stuff like that. It's HORRIBLE for gaming. If you are a gamer, good luck. I've spent countless hours fixing driver issues, sound issues, dual-display issues (low FPS when running in dual display mode), and other incompatibility issues. I'm tired of it. I'm tired of always fixing broken stuff, or fixing something and breaking something else in the process. I still use Linux but I would never play games on it ever again.
 
MindBlast said:
It's HORRIBLE for gaming.
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No, it's horrible at running Windows games.

But Linux is remarkably better at running Windows programs than Windows is at running Linux programs. Which is to say, Windows cannot do that at all. Not even one tiny little Linux program. None. Nada. Zilch. Nothing.

If you want to run Windows programs, then you should run Windows.

If you choose to judge Linux by it's ability to run Windows programs, then it is only fair to judge Windows by its ability to run Linux programs. Which makes Windows the worst operating system on planet Earth.
 
Re GNU/Linux and gaming. Linux can do fancy graphics fairly well:

Industry of Change: Linux Storms Hollywood
Feb 28, 2002 By Michael J. Hammel
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/5472

Hollywood Loves Linux
Linux used to create blockbuster movies!
By Marius Nestor, Linux Editor
January 27th, 2007, 16:26 GMT
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Hollywood-Loves-Linux-45571.shtml

10 Blockbusters Made with the Help of Linux
Wed, 01/20/2010 - 03:38 — rg
Linux Advocacy Movie Trailers
http://www.linux-netbook.com/10-blockbusters-made-with-the-help-of-linux
 
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