I dont Understand flaming queers

[rareboy]

I don't understand queers who don't understand flaming queers.

So I guess that just about evens it all out.

 

[allthelittlefishies]

It's who we are. I don't make any attempt to act feminine, it just happens. And you know what? I'm comfortable with that. You don't have to be attracted to me, but I'm not going to start acting like something I'm not just because you don't "get it".

 

[Crackberry]

I also don't get feminine guys i wonder are they really faking or not. Same with Butch lesbians i dont understand why girls want a woman who looks and acts like a man. And some of them look so creepy! I seen some guys who are so feminine and have long hair that they can easily fool people into thinking they are a woman. i minis well date a chick with short hair thats into wearing a strap on.

It's not for you to understand. But these people's nature of personality is just as natural as you being gay.

Comments like "Why would you want to act like a woman when you're a man" make no sense. Just as it makes no sense to say "Why would you want to be with a man, when you're a man."

 

[KaraBulut]

Four month old post....

 

[darkdreamerx]

I've had 1 semi-relationship with a man and now a full relationship. My first "semi-relationship" was with a guy I met through friends, he is a pretty feminine guy, but that didn't turn me off him at all. My current guy is very masculine, or at least what I consider to be masculine. That being said, one has all female friends (the feminine one) and one has all male friends (the masculine ones). It seems like something social to me. I've had all male friends my entire life besides GFs, and I consider myself to be masculine MOST of the time (i do have my moments of femininity!) and either way it doesn't really change who the person is inside.

 

[Fucker29]

Uncalled for? For fuck's sake...you do realize, my lil' hypocrite, that society says the same about you, right? So how about recognizing and admitting your hypocrisy and try to be a bit more accepting...since, IDK, it's what we're fighting for...so, be the change you wish to see.

Why the shock and almost desdain towards "flaming queers"? Do they remind you too much of your gayness, of how much you loooove taking it up in the ass? Maybe you need to fully accept yourself first, eh?

You are who you are. Live and let live. You don't have to particularly like them but don't look down on them.

 

[Fucker29]

I also don't get feminine guys i wonder are they really faking or not. Same with Butch lesbians i dont understand why girls want a woman who looks and acts like a man. And some of them look so creepy! I seen some guys who are so feminine and have long hair that they can easily fool people into thinking they are a woman. i minis well date a chick with short hair thats into wearing a strap on.

Yeah, because us gays don't take it up in the ass as it was a vagina, wich it isn't. Isn't that trying to pass by as woman as well, in a way?


Grow up.

 

[Luka]

im answering the original post btw:

Personally I am not attracted to feminine guys, I am a guy who like men, if i wanted a woman i would get a real one.

 

[thongboi]

I'm attracted to men of all types be it queen or masculine but I do like the queeny boys. And I find the line of thinking about "I am a guy who likes men and if I wanted a woman, I'd go get a real one" to be vapid. A guy may be feminine but he's still a man with a wonderful penis

 

[LoveIsNow]

When I think of feminine men, I think of two types of guys:

First, there's the kind who are bitchy, whiney, and usually sluts.

Then, there are the absolutely wonderful kind that are almost the only guys I like: the ones who like to cook and sing along with The King and I and read books, and cuddle, and get really happy when Marlene or Judy or Bette comes on the screen.

The first type are utterly repulsive to me, but so are excessively and annoyingly straight-acting guys who are slutty. I'm generally repulsed by promiscuity. If you want me, you want me - not me, then him, then him, him, and him, then me when your drunk, then him...

The second sort are the most rewarding people you shall ever find, and they are gloriously effeminate.

 

[KaraBulut]

Four month old thread.. and getting older by the moment...

 

[MystikWizard]

Add me to the list of those who, apparently does not "get" flaming queers, either. If there are any flamers reading this, can you answer a question on the honor system? What drives someone to want to act like the opposite sex? I'm genuinely intrigued.

 

[snoopydog]

People are who and what they are. Period. I want to be accepted, so I accept.

I like all kinds. Brad pitt is hot, but I once saw a movie in which John Candy played a security guard, and his character was briefly in drag, and I thought that John Candy was so nice in drag. So, yeah, if someone in drag pushes the right buttons, I'm on it.

All I'm saying, I guess, is that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

 

[Fucker29]

Add me to the list of those who, apparently does not "get" flaming queers, either. If there are any flamers reading this, can you answer a question on the honor system? What drives someone to want to act like the opposite sex? I'm genuinely intrigued.

Oh! So playing with cock isn't acting like the opposite sex? Sounds like YOU can answer your own question...if you actually try using your brain other than to spill out your inanities. Think further and deeper.

 

[Fucker29]

Hey Lewis,

Mate, please be very careful about falling into being as judgmental as those we fight against every day to be seen as being just normal guys like everyone else.

Our community like every community has sub groups, who have sub groups who have sub groups.

Theres us... all of us in the gay,bi,les community.
Then as a sub group theres us gays.
Then as a sub group theres twinks, bears, daddies, fems etc
Then as a sub group theres twinks that like daddies, twinks that like bears etc

You get the picture.

This group of people you dont understand are as legitimate and real as any of the others. Their make up (biological), their needs and emotions, are as relevant to them as ours is to us. They are simply people who are who they are. They crave the same attention, love and understanding that rest of us do.

And there are plenty of other guys out there who love them just the way they are... and that doesnt make them wrong either.

Being fem is just another kink in the geneitc mix thats makes us all. A variation on the kink that makes you you.

Dont be too quick to judge mate, lest you fall into the same trap that those who still hate us do, and thats not who you are I'm sure.

No mate, its not about being defensive... its about being accepting.

I highlighted the word act because I think this is maybe where you are going a little astray.

Yeah sure... some of these guys exaggerate or act. But so does a str8 guy trying to impress his jock mates by drinking a six pack in 5 minutes. Or a young guy street racing in his car to impress his mates.

But a lot of guys are just genuinely fem. And for them its as normal as having blond hair. Or blue eyes. They no more act than you do... its not something that they are conscious of... or can change.

Let me give you an example.

A young guy goes to school, like every other kid. But he's not like every other kid... he's gay... and hes fem. And everyday his life is made miserable by kids who knows he gay because no matter what he does he just cant hide it. And they bully and bash him so that each day becomes a night mare...

Lewis, that kid grows up to be one of the guys you are criticizing. Why would anyone put themselves through that?

Mate he no more chooses that path than you or I do in being gay.

No, its not about being defensive. Its about asking you to think beyond what you "see". Think beyond the superficial and ask yourself about the stories that make them who they are... and the people that they are.

For sure dismiss the attention seekers... they're every where. But the genuine guys are real people... people who are loved and cherished by partners as diverse as they are. Partners who like footy and cars... and are builders and boxers... and who love fem guys.

Dont judge em... you are way better than that Lewis.

*sigh*

That's it! I'm in love.

 

[MystikWizard]

Oh! So playing with cock isn't acting like the opposite sex? Sounds like YOU can answer your own question...if you actually try using your brain other than to spill out your inanities. Think further and deeper.

No, it really isn't. Because even though I like guys, I don't feel the need to talk like a woman, walk like a woman, and simply act like a woman.

So again, if you could please further elaborate if you consider yourself to be a fem-guy, that would be great.

 

[EwanSF]

ok i know there is a such thing of a guy being feminine or being very feminine but flaming queers are realy uncalled for.

I mean if you are into guys why would you think other guys want someone who embodies a female? you want a guy because they are a guy which means you would wanta preety normal acting guy

the only reason a guy would get with them is cause they feel like they are still going with a female and can in some way satisfy society by being with them

In my experience, people that think like that, do so because they still aren't fully comfortable with thier sexualities, and think that emphasising masculinity will somehow make them more accepted by thier peers or society in general.

Bit sad so it is.

 

[Fucker29]

No, it really isn't. Because even though I like guys, I don't feel the need to talk like a woman, walk like a woman, and simply act like a woman.

So again, if you could please further elaborate if you consider yourself to be a fem-guy, that would be great.

Yes, it is acting as the opposite sex.

Action = the doing of something; an act; a thing done; a deed; behavior.

Sucking cock, taking it up in the ass and simply enjoying cock isn't something women do? Well, sweetness, you do too, therefore, you're acting like the opposite sex...weither you care to admit it or not.

I'm not a "fem-guy" but, unlike you and the OP, I respect and accept differences. The world is big and diverse. Just because you don't feel the need to act like a woman, doesn't mean that others don't. Well, taking that egocentric "the world revolves around me" perspective to it's natural logical extent, than everyone in the world should enjoy cock...there should only be straight women and homosexuals...the hell with heterosexual and bisexual men, and lesbian or bisexual women...they're different from me, they're a threat to my well-being (sp)...why should I accept them?

 

[KingofFaeries]

First off there's really no point in limiting men to masculine i.e. hard manual labor, big muscles, hair everywhere, sweaty all the time, can drink a keg and fuck all night. And then putting women as the opposite of all that.

Men real men can be kind and caring, spaghetti armed, no hair anywhere, can barely hold down a single beer, and still be considered a man. Just like there are women who could fit the definition I put up as a man in the first paragraph.

For everyone who got defensive at his question. Shh. =P He did at least try to ask it nicely, he just wasn't very succesful. Lewis some gays do choose to act decidedly more fem than others, some simply cuz they're attention whores, and some like me like the idea of being free to express ones self without someone limiting my choice in clothes or hair styles.

That being said there are those in our community and in the straight community that are fem by nature with a dash of nurture that can't help how they act. Don't jump on me cuz I said act. I use it like action rather than acting leave me alone (beat away the imaginary word harpies =P) Basically, some men are attracted to this decidedly fem behaviour because they aren't seeing them as a man acting like a woman they are seeing a man.

the only reason a guy would get with them is cause they feel like they are still going with a female and can in some way satisfy society by being with them

While I'm sure there are some who date queens for that purpose. In most cases people date queens because they see beyond the flash and pomp that most flaming queens put up as a defensive mechanism to the man inside. I've known many a queen in my day, and some of them put the show on for everyone but in the bedroom there is no confusion as to whether they are a Man or a man trying to be a girl.

All that you really need to understand is that people act differently. You are masculine because of this and that. Your lovers are masculine because you chose a masculine lover and they are that way because of this and that. That is a classic view of gay culture. However the flaming queen down the road is that way cuz of the same things that made you masculine they just reacted in a different way because of different genes and different life experiences.

Flaming Queen = Uber drunk str8 frat boy
Gay masculine = Straight masculine
Gay fem = Straight fem

We're all the same if you really sit down and analyze people's behavior patterns. The only difference is how we react to situations. Just because you or I do something one way doesn't make it 'right'.

 

[kingkhan]

For me personally I hate loud people who bring attention to themselves regardless of gender or sexual orientation. But, as someone who also, is attracted to women I don't mind if a guy is kind of effeminate, I am not even into overly masculine guys like muscular or tall or big guys but, that's just me.