I have not found anyone I want to vote FOR

[Homoaffectional]

Wow, that worries me... of course you could always write in Joe Lieberman if you wish.

 

[1st love ron]

That's the essence of politics -- you hold your nose and vote for the least offensive person. I like Kusinich but I'll be damned if I am going to throw away my vote on him only to see a Republican snatch victory. So, HRC is my gal, but my support for her is lukewarm at best..

 

[JayHawk]

It is not only you. The list of applicants is substandard to say the least.

 

[cityboy-stl]

My first choice is John Edwards. He's the only one talking about actually doing something about the vast fascist corporate power that controls the country. He would be a real president of the people.

Second would be Joe Biden. I like his foreign policy and is pretty good on doing what is right for "other" 94% of country. He would make a great president.

An Edwards/Biden ticket would be unbeatable IMO.

Democrats better wake up. Either Clinton or Obama makes the election vulnerable to the republicans. All recent polls and research show that Edwards beats all the republican candidates hands down.

We absolutely must not have another republican president. JMO

 

[1st love ron]

1st love ron, what do you mean about throwing your vote away for Kucinich? Isn't your "gal" whoever gets the Democratic nomination?

It means I'm on the HRC bandwagon. I don't want the Dem's to look fractured and lacking a strong (or popular) candidate, so the more support she gets the better she looks like a leader that can beat a Republican.

As for Kucinch, he won't win, so I'm not backing a loser even though I like him better than any of the others. It's wasted energy.

It's romantic to be an idealist, but it's better to be a realist when fighting a battle.

 

[iman]

Candidates are not running just to please you, this is a democracy and they have to get support from 50%+ of the voters. Choose the candidate and party that best advances your agenda and vote for them.

 

[smelter]

Candidates are not running just to please you, this is a democracy and they have to get support from 50%+ of the voters. Choose the candidate and party that best advances your agenda and vote for them.

Is it too late to draft General Alfie? Non-militarily speaking, of course.

 

[construct]

I guess I'm in the minority. I like almost all of the Democratic candidates, and I could vote enthusiastically for almost any of them. For me, the problem is not finding one to vote for. My problem is deciding I want to vote against any of them. (Okay, I want to vote against Sen. Gravel.)

 

[smelter]

What's wrong with Gravel?

Thats what everybody asks when they hear him talk!

 

[construct]

What's wrong with Gravel?

I don't like his tax policy, and I don't like the idea of drilling for oil in northern Alaska.

 

[beekman001]

That's the essence of politics -- you hold your nose and vote for the least offensive person. I like Kusinich but I'll be damned if I am going to throw away my vote on him only to see a Republican snatch victory. So, HRC is my gal, but my support for her is lukewarm at best..

Thats exactly the kind of cynicism that has gotten this country into the situation we're in today. I say if you like what Kusinich stands for more than anyone else that's running, vote for him. To paraphrase my grandmother: If everyone else voted this country off a bridge would you?

 

[iman]

Is it too late to draft General Alfie? Non-militarily speaking, of course.

He's got my vote. I do wish he would get back here, all these goofy libertarians and Limbaugh fans are running wild.

 

[MystikWizard]

My first choice is John Edwards. He's the only one talking about actually doing something about the vast fascist corporate power that controls the country. He would be a real president of the people.

Second would be Joe Biden. I like his foreign policy and is pretty good on doing what is right for "other" 94% of country. He would make a great president.

An Edwards/Biden ticket would be unbeatable IMO.

Democrats better wake up. Either Clinton or Obama makes the election vulnerable to the republicans. All recent polls and research show that Edwards beats all the republican candidates hands down.

We absolutely must not have another republican president. JMO

Unless it is Ron Paul, who will send an eviction notice to all the NeoCons in power.


It's a shame that the Dems were asleep at the wheel and didn't rile up support for Kucinich, like so many did for his counterpart on the GOP side ... Paul. Because finally, we could have had 2 totally honest choices for the White House on both sides.

Of the media-billed candidates on the Democratic side, I keep going back and forth between Barack and John Edwards.

If the country really wants change ... it is disturbing to me to hear that Barack has numerous Clinton advisers advising him on Foreign Policy. Maybe it's just me, but I've simply have had it with the Bush-Clinton Dynasty. I think it's time for a new direction and it's time to keep both of these families away from the White House and keep both of these families away from power.

I would probably have to go with Edwards amongst the "Media-Billed" Front Runners on the Democratic side.

Although I personally would vote, in my heart, for Kucinich.

 

[SuperNovaSolarFlare]

I like Gravel, all the other candidates just don't cut it for me. Kucinich is alright, and if I were to ever vote for a republican, then Paul would get my vote.

None of the republicans are worthvoting for, except maybe Paul...Clinton has been a senator for my state for the past 8 years, and has contributed nothing to it...Edwards is a pretty boy, if he is willing to spend $400 on a haircut, then imagine what he will do to the national debt...Obama is all talk, and he's too green, he dosen't have the experience that Gravel does.

If that dosent convince you, then look at his policy on gay marriage, he says that only the full access to the institution of marriage will do.

 

[Homoaffectional]

Question for 1st Love Ron, ditto for beekman, nice try for Midnight77

That's the essence of politics -- you hold your nose and vote for the least offensive person. I like Kusinich but I'll be damned if I am going to throw away my vote on him only to see a Republican snatch victory. So, HRC is my gal, but my support for her is lukewarm at best..

That happening depends on which state one lives in (something I think most people don't understand, for some strange reason). Which state is it for you?

Thats exactly the kind of cynicism that has gotten this country into the situation we're in today.

Exactly! Thank you for the first refreshing bit of sanity, not just on this board, but anywhere!!

I think it's time for a new direction and it's time to keep both of these families away from the White House and keep both of these families away from power.

I agree with both points, but it's too bad you weren't able to do anything in time to keep the one family away from power for the past 7 years and counting, and can only raise your voice when it's time to keep away the other. I would like to keep Hillary Clinton away from power, but I wanted to keep George Bush away from power just a bit more (even a lot more). A day late and a dollar short, is you...</p>

I like Gravel, all the other candidates just don't cut it for me. </p>None of the republicans are worth voting for...Clinton has been a senator for my state for the past 8 years, and has contributed nothing to it...Edwards is a pretty boy, if he is willing to spend $400 on a haircut, then imagine what he will do to the national debt...Obama is all talk, and he's too green, he dosen't have the experience that Gravel does.


If that doe*sn'*t convince you, then look at his policy on gay marriage, he says that only the full access to the institution of marriage will do.

Since you're such a Gravel fan, I hope you would call him up and convince him to move back to Alaska and run for US Senate one of these days... if Begich runs against Ted Stevens, then he can run against Ms. Nepotism Lisa Murkowski. It would be best if he proved he could actually get elected again in a state he was elected in at least once back in the day before taking a stab at convincing the country he could win a majority of the country's electoral votes. I think he would make a wonderful voice in the US Senate... those wimps certainly could use more like him. I wish that Kucinich would do the same in Ohio.

 

[Homoaffectional]

You folks better listen to this guy. He's talking sense and he's right. Unless you want to be looking at another Republican's ugly mug for the next 4 years.

Like it or not, politics is a game of strategy. You can't make up your own rules and expect to win.

Yes, you need to actually know the rules and not be stupid about it. Therefore, it depends on what state you're in.

If you're in a state a Democrat running for pres will win anyway by a wide margin like California or Massachusetts or NYS or Washington state (or Washington DC, while we're at it) or Rhode Island or Hawaii, you can go ahead and write in Kucinich or Gravel or a third party candidate or whomever. If you're in a battleground state like Ohio, Florida, Nevada, New Mexico, Iowa or Virginia, you need to vote for whomever the Democratic nominee is, even if it's (*shudder*) Hillary (crossing my fingers that it isn't). Not sure how many times I will have to repeat it and explain that the rules are different depending on what state you live in. But I'll keep it up untill people get it.

If you live in a state that's battleground or leans red and you can't bring yourself to cast a vote for Hillary, here's a compromise that can be offered -- there used to be a website called votepair.org. It was used for people who wanted to give a vote for Nader or a Libertarian douchebag or whatever... since they lived in states in which the Dems needed every vote they could get, they could use the websites to contact someone in a bluer state, and ask them to vote for Nader or the Libertarian douchebat or whatever, and they would vote for the Dem in their battleground/red-leaning state... so the Naderite type candidate would get at least one vote "on their behalf" where people could afford to cast a vote for them. And, if that's not enough for you, I refer you back to what Random dude and the guy he was quoting were originally saying.

 

[Homoaffectional]

My first choice is Kucinich, as it was in 2004. He is exactly right on all the issues. But the commercial media have completely ignored him

Since you live in California, you can without any worries vote for him not only in the primary, but write him in for the general election, but I doubt most people will address the fact that it does indeed depend on what state you live in when considering whether or not to go with a nominee that you really don't care for.

(But you should vote for the Democratic candidates for Congress, especially depending on where exactly in San Diego you live in, and even more so if your Rep. is an incumbent Rethuglican.)

 

[construct]

If you live in a state that's battleground or leans red and you can't bring yourself to cast a vote for Hillary, here's a compromise that can be offered -- there used to be a website called votepair.org. It was used for people who wanted to give a vote for Nader or a Libertarian douchebag or whatever... since they lived in states in which the Dems needed every vote they could get, they could use the websites to contact someone in a bluer state, and ask them to vote for Nader or the Libertarian douchebat or whatever, and they would vote for the Dem in their battleground/red-leaning state... so the Naderite type candidate would get at least one vote "on their behalf" where people could afford to cast a vote for them.

That's exactly what I did in 2000. I shipped my Gore vote to Florida and voted for Nader in Texas by trading with a Florida voter I met through a vote pairing site. We were both pleased with our relationship.

 

[Kulindahr]

My primary is on Feb 5th so the smoke will clear some by then, maybe I wonder if many JUBers feel the way I do? I can list many candidates I could vote against but cant decide on which one I would vote for enthusiastically

I believe it's a sad state we are in or is it just me?

If that's you in your avatar, you're definitely not in a sad state!

In fact, if that's you, I'll vote for you if you promise to go shirtless whenever possible!

 

[Kulindahr]

That's the essence of politics -- you hold your nose and vote for the least offensive person.

Thats exactly the kind of cynicism that has gotten this country into the situation we're in today. I say if you like what Kusinich stands for more than anyone else that's running, vote for him. To paraphrase my grandmother: If everyone else voted this country off a bridge would you?

I have been saying this for so long...
But the "don't throw away your vote" crowd, with cheerleader General Alfie, would have us keep going deeper and deeper into evil.
The sad part of it is that there's no way to say, "I don't like any of you!" on a ballot.

Exactly! Thank you for the first refreshing bit of sanity, not just on this board, but anywhere!!

It is indeed refreshing, but the Libertarians have been saying it for years: vote on principle, not on "politics". Holding your nose and voting for someone who just reeks less is just playing the same exact game that has made the air in D.C. so putrid.

Is it too late to draft General Alfie? Non-militarily speaking, of course.

Can't do that; he'd have to criticize himself as a coward for not serving....