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I love him so much it hurts

bwbw86

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I'm not really sure where to start. I guess I'll warn you that this is another straight friend story. There seems to be a new one every day. I've actually had my fair share of experiences like this. You think I would have learned by now. I thought I did. I guess I can try to convince myself that this is different from every other time, from every other story but it probably isn't all that different. So what's the point of posting it? Who knows. Maybe I'll get some solace from letting it all out, from joining the ranks (or re-joining). Why does this happen? I don't know. I've heard a lot of good answers for that, my answer right now is that in some way it is safe. In some twisted way it is fun. There's a mystery to it. There's an uncharted land of possibilities just waiting...or so you think. I know I'm a fool. I know I'm an idiot. I can't really talk about it with my friends because I feel like a douche. Hell I am a douche for letting this happen.

I've known J for a pretty good chunk of my 22 years. I ran into him sporadically. We roomed together at church camp several times. I don't really remember him from that but his signature is in my camp book so we both know we were there together. I mostly only heard about him but never interacted with him much. In 9th grade I went from a small school to the public school that he attended. We didn't really interact at first. I always assumed he didn't like me. I guess I actually have my other good friend to thank for bringing us together. We were greasers in the fall musical "Grease." So we had time to get to know eachother then and began to get to know each other a lot better but didn't hang out exclusively that often. I never remember being that attracted to him back then. Kind of sad that that it was easier for me to keep it platonic when I was a teen but I'm somehow not able to now.

When me and my other friend had a place together, J would come over a lot and get drunk with us. That's when we all started drinking and being bad kids. I had been coming out to a few of my friends and finally decided it was time to come out to him. I was afraid of his reaction because he always seemed kind of sheltered and maybe naive to me. But his reaction was good, he actually said that he loved me more. I was pretty happy. I do remember hitting on him once there when we got drunk. He was so nice about it, just said he wasn't the person I was looking for but I would find someone.

All through high school he never dated anyone. I never heard about him getting any tail or anything. But we weren't really partiers. We were the good kids so I guess techincally he wasn't supposed to be out looking for pussy. I never really asked him why he didn't date in high school. But I guess I didn't really either. It seems like it was only after high school that he started to be more interested in finding a girl to date.

The summer after he graduated (I'm a grade older) the three of us went on a camping trip and there I was again totally hitting on him. To the point where I pulled his dick out and started playing with it. We were all fucked up. He was really uncomfortable but I totally leeched on to him. It's hard for me to say this shit because I feel absolutely disgusting for doing that to my friend. There's all kinds of excuses I could make but the truth is...I acted like an idiot. I'm surprised he still hangs out with me sometimes.

Our friendship didn't grow really strong until early 2008. He had already been seeing this girl for about a year I think so he was obviously my straight buddy and I was good with that. I THOUGHT I was good with that. I never remember looking at him in a lustful way or wanting anything else with him. I was working 11 in the morning until 10 at night then so I would drive down after work on fridays. He lives about an hour away and at that time he had a place in a small town. We'd drink and listen to music and watch movies and just whatever. I always so wired from my shitty job that we'd stay up until 4 or 5 just dickin around. I don't remember when we started smoking pot together but that could be one of the reasons we're so close. I don't consider him just a smoking buddy, but it's just something that we started doing together...and pretty much ever since we have been doing together. We'd sleep in the same bed and it never seemed to be a problem. I never tried to get on him then. My memories might be fucked but I really don't think I ever even thought of it. After that we've hung out almost every weekend. Smokin, talking, laughing, camping, listening to music, just being happy.

I don't know if I dreamed it (and that's a big possibility) but I remember waking up and he had his arm around me. That's about the extent of our physical contact. I guess once when we went camping and it was cold we held on to each other to keep warm but fuck I could have dreamt that too. Really, I think this all might be a dream because it seems to fucked up to be real. For all the times that I swore I would never fall for another straight guy - here I am again, thinking about him all the time. I swear I love him so much it hurts sometimes...it hurts often. I'm not sure when it happened but it just started creeping. It's like a gradual sickness and I'm not even sure I want to get rid of it. That's the part that's the most fucked up.

One day in February I got the balls to tell him how I felt. We were driving around and I started freaking out and just let it all out. He just said that he didn't plan on turning gay anytime soon but he didn't feel that weirded out by it. Also that he knew by the way I would act sometimes. Also I guess another one of my friends sensed it and told him once. I went into a slump after that because I knew he felt weird/acted weird. IT seemed like he got over it pretty quick. Actually we both got over it pretty quick. And there we were, back to the same old - hanging out every weekend just bein buddies. I thought just being honest had made the feelings go away. But now I feel like I've hit the biggest wave of it yet.

People tell me that we seem like a couple. Actually a lot of people thought we were. At parties...if one of us is there without the other everyone makes a big deal out of it because honestly we are attached at the hip. It sometimes gets to the point where I only want to hang out with him and I end up blowing all my other friends off. It's only gotten worse since his girlfriend broke up with him. Now we are usually together Friday night through sunday night and then wednesday and thursday. And I know it's because I want us to be like a couple. I want to believe we are like a couple. Sometimes I swear we are. When I did talk to him about it, he agreed. It's something that I want...but I don't want it. I don't want it because I know it's temporary. I know that he's looking for a girlfriend and eventually a wife. I think that's the hardest part...I feel like I have found the perfect person. I've found someone that could make my life so perfect if he would just want me back. But he doesn't and he won't ever. No matter what I do...this will end. If I don't get out there and try to find someone who will want me like I want him...I'm going to end up alone.

I lost 50 pounds since Jan 1 and the shitty thing is the whole time I was doing it mostly for him. I thought if I was skinny and better looking then maybe he would change his mind. I just get so confused because he'll acknowledge that a guy is cute or not cute. I almost always feel ugly to him. It's always happened like that. If i like someone and I know they aren't attracted to me then I feel really ugly. I know it's crazy but I guess I'm fucking crazy.

Now he wants to move here and we're supposed to get an apartment together. I keep trying to convince myself that everything will be just fine. I think I just need to shove these feelings deeper and deeper and they'll go away. I mostly just want him to be happy. I don't want to make him feel uncomfortable. I just want to be a good friend to him and he shouldn't have to worry about that shit. No one should have to worry about this. Sometimes I wish someone would invent a pill so I could be straight. I think I'd be the first in line.

I know this is a huge mess. Kudos to anyone who even reads this. I mostly just need someone to talk to who isn't directly involved. I have no idea what to do...
 
If you know he isn't gay and will never love you back and that's killing you then I'd suggest not getting an apartment together, because being with him 100% of the time will just make it worse. It would be more healthy for you to have time to yourself to see other gay guys.
 
I went through a similar situation with one of my friends, and the truth is, you're not going to get over him without distancing yourself. The first person I came out to I had a crush on... I eventually told him my feelings, and he got weirded out for a little while. Eventually he got back to normal and things were the same, including my feelings for him. It wasn't until I stopped talking to him a lot and stopped seeing him routinely (down to maybe 3 or 4 times in a year) that I started to get over him.

I don't see it as an easy process, but that was the only way I truly got over him. I would not get an apartment together as well. It will most likely make your infatuation with him increase, and not go down to "friendship" levels.
 
I'll third the notion. Just be honest with him. "Given those feelings I developed for you, I don't think it'd be a good idea to get a place together right now. I need to keep working on getting my head back in the right spot."

Lex
 
I think you really should sort your feelings out with him before getting an apartment together. It will be nasty if all your bottled up feelings burst when you guys share an apartment together. Maybe it's unconventional, but have you consider just kissing him? you know...just let all your pent up feelings out with the kiss and then move on? You should also consider talking to him, like sitting down and have a very long conversation about it. Maybe that will help. He's your best friend, I'm sure he will find a way to help you out.
 
i'm pretty gnarly when it comes to theories, so please forgive me if this is completely wrong or offends you in any way; i think you're more in love with the idea of him than actually him as a person.

i read your post, it's very detailed and you seem to be really self-aware. most people are oblivious to the reasons why they do things they can't help but do. but it seems to me like you've almost purposefully put yourself in the situation you're in. and i totally don't blame you.

you're in love with your best friend. your best friend who you've known forever... but only became close to at the end of adolescence. he's always been there, but yet it's like he's brand new to you because of the exhilarating unfamiliar feelings of deep intimacy that he invokes in you, these feelings that nobody else has ever made you felt. he was "a good kid" in high school, and now he's your "good time" bro; the best of two worlds. hes completely accepted you for who you are, to the point where he lets you sleep in the same bed and acknowledges that you guys act like a couple even after you told him you had feelings for him. who wouldn't fall in love with their best friend whom they've known their entire lives if they treated them like that?

the thing you really have to remember is that the ugly truth is ALWAYS better than a beautiful lie. i don't know either of you... but i've done what he's doing to a couple of girls in my time. i've played coy, been emotionally available at all times, flirted back when they did, let them spend all their free time with me, let them get too close and even after they've declared their love for me, i just continued playing prince charming. and why did i do this to girls i had no sexual attraction to at all? the same reason anyone does anything. the attention.
and not just that, but the gratification i got from knowing i could have them if i wanted, the confidence in knowing i was not only sexually desired, but emotionally and intimately, and most importantly: the tremendous satisfaction in knowing that i was loved. i knew they had feelings for me all along, and that's the way i wanted it. to say it was flattering would be the ultimate understatement.

i'm not saying he's necessarily doing the things i did, but we're all human, and the need to feel wanted is so incredibly strong and innate to us all that i'd be willing to put money on it that he is, at least subconsciously.

congratulations and goodonya for losing the 50 lbs. i bet you feel amazing (btw you have really cute eyes and hair if thats you in your avatar), but you shouldn't have done it for him. i'm sure if he knew that, his perspective on his part of your friendship would be different. i would feel horrible if my best friend of all people in the world committed themselves to changing their body just for the *chance* that i'll all of a sudden notice them physically.

again, my apologies if this hurts or offends you. totally didn't mean it to be.
 
I echo kissthesky88 in congratulating you on being so self-aware and capable of considering your own actions and own thoughts as part of a more complete picture. I also think that there is probably some merit to his comments.

However, I'd have to say that I think your best route of action would be to back off from him. As long as y'all spend lots of time together, your feelings towards him will remain the same. Yeah it sucks to think that you need to become less of a "best friend" to him, but that appears to be the only way to help alleviate your pain. At least if you BFB (best friend breakup) with him, your pain will be high up front and then decrease in severity over time. If you were to remain best friends with him, your pain would always be at a high level because y'all would be so close and, yet, he could never fully be "yours".

Anyways, that's my advice based off of a similar situation that I have been party to.

Best of luck to you.
 
As someone who does this, you and I both know that you're gonna room with the guy. You're going to continue to be in love with him. You're going to take every moment as a positive spin in your direction or as a spark that maybe, just maybe, he'll come around.

But chances are he won't.

How much experience do you have with gay men? If you at least socialize with gay men, you will realize that there are men that you can like that might actually like you back. I know that it would cut down on J time, but make it a point to meet gay men TOO. You don't have to drop J, you don't have to stop liking him (cause you won't), just go out with and even goin on a date with gay men and give yourself the opportunity to get lucky with love.

You will find that once you date, his hold on you will deminish (not at first so keep trying)
 
Have you tried going to a gay bar in your area? You could, possibly, meet a gay man that has your friend's similar personality?
 
I once moved in as a roommate with a really good straight friend that I had feelings for (although I was denying those feelings to a pretty good degree). We hadn't known each other nearly as long as you and your friend have, but there were folks who thought we were a couple.

After a year, he moved out, and we were never friends again. Kinda solved one part of the problem, but it was incredibly painful at the time.

good luck.
 
I don't have time to respond with as much as I'd like to right now. But i just wanted to let you guys know that I really appreciate everyone's response. It's great to know I have at least somewhere to go where people understand. I'll get back at you guys soon. Thanks again.
 
Oh also that pic of me was way old so I uploaded a new one. That's me now.
 
I think u should sort out the feeling 1st before he moves in..I think some guys would have already got weird off especially straight guy by mentioning ur feelings ..but , it seem like he values ur friendship alot..which is a good thing..& u should sort the feelings to make the friendship remain ;)..
 
If this straight guy is causing you so much angst then how is this any sort of healthy relationship?

A relationship is supposed to be positive and life-affirming. The tears are supposed to have A LOT of emotional pay-off and a general sense of well-being. If it's just not happening, move on to something else that is?
 
I keep going back and forth on this. Sometimes I just wanna spill my guts and tell him that we just can't live together. But he keeps saying how excited he is to move up here and then I feel like it would just be shitty to disappoint him.

Honestly I have no idea what to do.

To answer the question of why I spend so much time with someone who causes me to stress out like this - because the good times outweigh the bad. I know I should be working on distancing myself from him but to be honest I am attached to the guy. People have told me that he wanders around like a lost little puppy when I'm not around. He's my best friend and I've never been closer with any other guy. I don't think I could stand to not be around him.

I had the conclusion tonight that I need to keep telling myself that nothing he does means anything. I need to stop looking for clues because there aren't any. Like one of you were saying: I'm in love with the idea of him. I've more out of our relationship than it really is. He likea girls. Plain and simple. Nothing I could do could possibly change that.

Anyway I'm signing off for the night. Thanks again guys. Your support means A LOT. Peace!
 
Stop the he, he, he stuff.

This is about what is best for you.

Might he be upset if you say no? Sure. So what?

However, how will you feel when he's bringing chicks home and you have to hear them fucking??
 
#1 I laughed at the "he likea girls" line pretty hard for some reason.

#2 I think that, in the long term, you will 99% likely come to the "I have to separate myself from him" conclusion. It's unfair to you because you have to deal with him on a "friend only" level when what you want is more than friends It's unfair to him because, if y'all really are friends, I think that he would want to know how you feel so that he could have the chance to make up his own mind about how that impacts y'alls relationship. At some point, you'll just get tired of trying to fight one set of feelings while having to indulge in another set. I don't really see a pain-free way for you to remain just friends with him. I do wish you luck in finding one, though!
 
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