I predict a Romney victory because...............

[chance1]

I think the Obama campaign isn't inept. I think they do need to focus on what's in that file McCain put together... just go through all of it. There is a lot of stuff in there. But either way, Romney is still a corporate crook.

Chuck took YOUR links and showed you how they are NOT what you claimed they are - how come he read your links and not you

The Bain attack is not working - and will not work - Americans are not the OWS crowd - they realize that companies in trouble that have a chance of being saved is better than not being saved - that risks taken by venture capitalists are good overall

max seems to think his record as mass gov. should be the key but unemployment there was mid 4% which is amazing - the fact that he didn't create more jobs (47th in the nation) is silly because the employment figures were strong

I'd attack the fact that he's been a chameleon in his political career - pragmatism is a good thing and ideology is overrated - BUT Mitt has morphed on many issues multiple times and the inability to know what a person stands for on an issue is disconcerting

 

[chuck10x]

Romney was a key man in Bain Capital and made millions from his involvement with the company. The other link I posted from the McCain campaign shows that in even greater detail. You have not demonstrated a rational or reasonable argument, and not one backed up by any proof.

The involvement is much deeper then you think it is. Romney had a key part in Bain Capital.


I'm going to criticize a corporate crook who made millions off the backs of Americans, many of which were fired. Why should I cut him any slack when even his own republicans know this about him?

The Washington Post article that YOU provided the link to, defends Bain and Romneys involvement.
The fraud started a year before Bains involvement.

How am I being irrational or unreasonable if I'm using the article you provided?
Please provide a link to an article that shows Bain and Romneys direct link in the medicare fraud.
For the record, I could care less about Romney, Even Bill Clinton called Bains record good with an 80% success rate.

 

[chuck10x]

Not it doesn't read the article again please. Also read the file I provided from McCain's campaign. That's pretty well corroborated highlighting his involvement. McCain was less then approving of Romney, at least in that file compiled by his campaign back in 2008. I've already posted links. You just ignored them.

And for someone who could care less about Romney, you sure defend his shoddy corporate record well enough.

The Washington Post in your link gave the story ( 2 pinocchios )
Significant omissions and or exaggerations giving a false or misleading impression.
I'm not defending Romney you did with the article, Please go back and read the whole story- to the end.
Your article invalidates McCain and "Blood Money"

Thanks Chance, Maybe you can explain better than me what the article says.

 

[chance1]

The Washington Post in your link gave the story ( 2 pinocchios )
Significant omissions and or exaggerations giving a false or misleading impression.
I'm not defending Romney you did with the article, Please go back and read the whole story- to the end.
Your article invalidates McCain and "Blood Money"

Thanks Chance, Maybe you can explain better than me what the article says.

not that it would matter

 

[Kulindahr]

Oh and here was McCain's opposition file on Mitt Romney:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/78582788/McCain-2008-Oppo-File

Page 135 is the most interesting part... ironic a file that a republican created will be used against them in this election. It's much deeper then you want to suggest. You should also read the part on AMPAD.

Up around p. 176 it says he was for gay rights -- the whole list -- before he was against them.

If someone could come up with him on video saying that....

 

[chance1]

It's so sad that members can't even attach links that support their contention but instead support the opposite

it's pretty prevalent

and it's from what i have seen on the liberal/progressive side of things

which is odd because they're so superior in intellect and organization - at least according to other liberal/progressives on JUB

 

[Kulindahr]

You Posted the link, I followed it and read it, The statements are from the Washington Post article.
I didn't make them up I just copied and pasted.
Romney was simply an employee of Bain Capital, He was not running it, Bain was a minority investor owning less than 10%.
How can an employee of a company owning less than 10% have a key hand in firing thousands?
It is a rational and reasonable argument.

Um, no -- Romney was one of the primary founders of Bain. He set much of the tone, including going with the idea to pay themselves bonuses from companies even when those companies were failing under Bain management.

 

[Kulindahr]

The Washington Post article that YOU provided the link to, defends Bain and Romneys involvement.
The fraud started a year before Bains involvement.

How am I being irrational or unreasonable if I'm using the article you provided?
Please provide a link to an article that shows Bain and Romneys direct link in the medicare fraud.
For the record, I could care less about Romney, Even Bill Clinton called Bains record good with an 80% success rate.

Huh?

I just read the Washington Post article again, and it says:

The case concerning Damon Clinical Laboratories is relevant because 1) Romney was a director of the firm while the fraud took place; 2) the fraud appears to have ended only after Bain sold its stake in the firm; 3) Romney personally earned nearly $500,000 from the sale of Damon; and 4) Romney’s statements about what he knew and when he knew it have been inconsistent.

That's pretty damning. One of Romney's stories says Bain found out about the fraud soon after the purchase -- yet the fraud continues right till Bain sold out!

Not that Romney can be trusted to tell the truth.

 

[chuck10x]

Huh?

I just read the Washington Post article again, and it says:




That's pretty damning. One of Romney's stories says Bain found out about the fraud soon after the purchase -- yet the fraud continues right till Bain sold out!

Not that Romney can be trusted to tell the truth.

Romney has taken both sides on most issues, But the final say in the article was this


The Pinocchio Test


The Damon case is certainly a valid subject for scrutiny of Romney’s business record. He was on the company’s board at the time criminal fraud was taking place, and his statements about his knowledge of the federal investigation have been inconsistent. BUT, the film goes too far in suggesting that Romney was responsible for running the company — or that he sold it to avoid a federal probe.


Two Pinocchios

 

[Benvolio]

I predict Romney will win because, inter alia, the WI vote for Walker is a HARBINGER of things to come.