I vote. Nothing changes. [SPLIT]

[fredroy]

it's about racism. Brown Texans must mean "illegal" and, therefore, illegitimate.

No it's not that at all. I went to HS in LaJoya, where the morning PA announcements were in Spanish and the folks here legally hated [Text: Removed].

 

[fredroy]

No one illegal can get EBT benefits

Ok. point granted. Now explain how such a person functions in this country without being able to speak a word of English.

 

[TX-Beau]

No it's not that at all. I went to HS in LaJoya, where the morning PA announcements were in Spanish and the folks here legally hated [Text: Removed].

Ok. point granted. Now explain how such a person functions in this country without being able to speak a word of English.

LOL! [Text: Removed]. It's "legal" to hate on "[Text: Removed]," that just makes one a racist.

Speaking English is not a requirement for citizenship anywhere in the country at any time; ask the Germans, the Czeck Texans, the Poles, and the Italians; some might argue the Irish and the Scots, but strangely, all of their kids did just fine.

I forgot the Vietnamese shrimpers on the Gulf Coast.

 

[rareboy]

LOL! [Text: Removed]. It's "legal" to hate on "[Text: Removed]," that just makes one a racist.

Speaking English is not a requirement for citizenship anywhere in the country at any time; ask the Germans, the Czeck Texans, the Poles, and the Italians; some might argue the Irish and the Scots, but strangely, all of their kids did just fine.

I would note that when my Dutch grandparents turned up in Canada, they spoke not a word of English or French and remained speaking Dutch for the rest of their lives. Which I why I know some Dutch. Somehow they ended up managing to produce children and grandchildren who all have landed in careers in medicine, law and finance in Canada and the US. Funny how that works eh?

 

[fredroy]

LOL! [Text: Removed]. It's "legal" to hate on "[Text: Removed]," that just makes one a racist.

Speaking English is not a requirement for citizenship anywhere in the country at any time; ask the Germans, the Czeck Texans, the Poles, and the Italians; some might argue the Irish and the Scots, but strangely, all of their kids did just fine.

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Yeah I did the "search the web" thing that you said I should do.

At least 18 years old when you apply
Of good moral character
Able to read, write, and speak basic English (depending on age)

Become a U.S. citizen through naturalization | USAGov

Find out if you are eligible to become a U.S. citizen, how to apply with USCIS Form N-400, and how to prepare for an interview and naturalization test.

www.usa.gov

 

[TX-Beau]

I would note that when my Dutch grandparents turned up in Canada, they spoke not a word of English or French and remained speaking Dutch for the rest of their lives. Which I why I know some Dutch. Somehow they ended up managing to produce children and grandchildren who all have landed in careers in medicine, law and finance in Canada and the US. Funny how that works eh?

I was being kind and refrained from pointing out that Spanish was the original common language in Texas (post-Native). Curiously, I don't think there is a Dutch community in Texas.

 

[TX-Beau]

[Text: Removed]

Yeah I did the "search the web" thing that said I should do.

Become a U.S. citizen through naturalization | USAGov

Find out if you are eligible to become a U.S. citizen, how to apply with USCIS Form N-400, and how to prepare for an interview and naturalization test.

www.usa.gov

You sir are mistaken

...An applicant may qualify for an exception from the English requirement, civics requirement, or both requirements. The table below serves as a quick reference guide on the exceptions to the English and civics requirements for naturalization.

You Don't Have to Speak English to Be a US Citizen — No Matter What the White House Claims

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Chapter 2 - English and Civics Testing

A. Educational RequirementsAn officer administers a naturalization test to determine whether an alien meets the English and civics requirements.

www.uscis.gov

 

[fredroy]

So, an official .gov site is lying? Perish the thought.
No, you don't have to speak English beyond able to order off the menu at McDonalds to be a citizen.

You have to speak and read and write English to BECOME a citizen.

 

[rareboy]

I was being kind and refrained from pointing out that Spanish was the original common language in Texas (post-Native). Curiously, I don't think there is a Dutch community in Texas.

I am always baffled as to why anglos think that somehow they have a superior claim on territory.

 

[fredroy]

So, now do Canada.

 

[TX-Beau]

So, an official .gov site is lying? Perish the thought.
No, you don't have to speak English beyond able to order off the menu at McDonalds to be a citizen.

You have to speak and read and write English to BECOME a citizen.

Ah, yeah, the second link I posted is the official Gubmint link. You're not reading the source material, are you?

 

[rareboy]

So, now do Canada.

What is that even supposed to mean?

Canada is founded on three peoples...Indigenous, French and English.

And we have millions of immigrants who don't speak any of those languages in their daily lives but are citizens.

 

[fredroy]

What is that suppose to mean? Three Peoples is new thing to me. I always thought it was English, a Crown Colony, fuck the French, send them to New Orleans, and the Indians, whatever.

You have all of the western US belonging to Mexico. Some kind of La Raza map? The US actually bought some of the land from Mexico. Gadson Purchase ring a bell?

So in Canada, it ALL belongs to the Eskimos, right?

I mean, if a third of the US belongs to Mexico....

 

[Kulindahr]

Voting fuck you right now means fascism.

And how is that worse than not voting?

 

[Kulindahr]

Right now, there is the possibility of a viable third on the right, but will that happen? Nope.

It could if the Democrats had the courage to change the way voting is done in states where they can manage it, switching to proportional ranked voting so House seats would become possible for small parties. That would split the GOP probably three ways in a bunch of states and get the ball rolling.

 

[Kulindahr]

Yeah, they are Americans. White Americans. Now explain all of the [Text: Removed] with EBT cards. I worked at the local HEB and yeah, 80% of the Non Native English Speakers have a fucking food stamp card.

Ask the State of Texas -- it's the state's responsibility to make sure people getting those are actually eligible, starting with being either citizens or legal residents.
Though it's worth noting that there have been Spanish-speaking Texans who are citizens since statehood, so language and skin color are poor criteria for judging who is eligible.

 

[Kulindahr]

This is a great way fir Trump to be elected this year.

How do people voting for small-party candidates instead of not voting help Trump?

 

[Kulindahr]

.you have an incredibly fragile and unforgiving system in voting directly for your president.

There is no "voting directly" for president here; there never has been and was never meant to be. The U.S. President is not president of the people but president of the states, which is why the states are the ones doing the voting.

Though that system has been screwed up terribly by a law that totally neutered the intent that the House of Representatives be the "people's House" by freezing the number of House seats (which is why I think the House should be expanded by 10% every House election for the next thirty years until it has 1500 seats). That's really what has made the system "unforgiving".

 

[Kulindahr]

And why don't they man up and fix shit where they come from?

Because for the most part their countries already run the way Trump wants the U.S. to be run, with a chief executive who has more power than the rest of the government combined and tramples anyone who disagrees. Put Trump in charge here and the refugee problem will take care of itself as word gets around that the U.S. is no better than the shit-holes they would like to flee.

 

[Kulindahr]

Why do White countries need to be "enriched" with diversity?

Why not? Have you ever lived somewhere that had actual diversity? It doesn't take long to realize that "enriched" isn't just a word.