I wanna give this poor kid a hug

[fetaby]

Thanks for the follow up.

But you neglected to answer my first question.

Now just a couple more questions. What other word would you use for a parent who "is not there" other than neglectful? Absent?
Do parents get the option to stop being parents? I mean, I know they have that window of opportunity in the beginning but...

Next question. If the father doesn't have an issue with the son's sexuality, but the son does... Wouldn't that mean the dad has an issue with the sexuality by proxy? The dad may have been cool as a cucumber with it but he doesn't get the option to stop being the parent. When the child has adjustment issues that becomes the parents problem.

It was all the minute detail I needed to know this kid joined the US military under DADT. When asked WHO he went to for shelter he said his Significant Other... A term with no specified gender refernce. Which if you follow the macro details, you'd know heterosexual people show absolutely no hesitation in making their orientation known. A straight guy would have said girlfriend.

 

[hungkee]

Thanks for the follow up.

But you neglected to answer my first question.

Now just a couple more questions. What other word would you use for a parent who "is not there" other than neglectful? Absent?
Do parents get the option to stop being parents? I mean, I know they have that window of opportunity in the beginning but...

Next question. If the father doesn't have an issue with the son's sexuality, but the son does... Wouldn't that mean the dad has an issue with the sexuality by proxy? The dad may have been cool as a cucumber with it but he doesn't get the option to stop being the parent. When the child has adjustment issues that becomes the parents problem.

It was all the minute detail I needed to know this kid joined the US military under DADT. When asked WHO he went to for shelter he said his Significant Other... A term with no specified gender refernce. Which if you follow the macro details, you'd know heterosexual people show absolutely no hesitation in making their orientation known. A straight guy would have said girlfriend.

But again, his real mother wasn't there in court. She didn't even supply a signed affidavit telling her side of things. It was stated though by the defendant himself that she didn't kick him out of her house. He chose to leave. And at 16. And really, only to go live with his father.

I mean, he could have run away and joined a gay circus if things were truly that horrid.

Lots of kids of divorce follow a similar pattern and at that same age. They suddenly switch parents or go to live with their same sex parent.

So we don't know for certain that the real mother "neglected" him at all. That was simply a word he used.

But let's give him the benefit of the doubt and that was the way he FELT. Maybe she was a hard, cold bitch. Or maybe at 16 a lot of boys can't relate to mom as they might hope to with dad - where they go to suddenly live thinking things will be different.

As for the sexual orientation thing? Again, he never says gay. Why not? He isn't 87 you know. Maybe he had some terrific sense of Catholic guilt imposed upon him which prevents him from uttering the word. But as we both see, he uses every other term, euphemism and image to suggest such.

But its an interesting choice by a suffering "gay" guy to enroll in the military suddenly. If he's so damaged by or paranoid about how people consider his sexuality, Boot Camp was an interesting place to head off to.

But I wanted to make a bigger point regarding the whole sexuality issue.

Is it always that a parent hates the sexual orientation? Or could it be - with some kid who might act out - the ways in which they express their sexuality? Or the things they might be DOING, in other words.

Meaning that while his mother might have not minded her son's gayness or even just "tolerated" it, what happens to such a parent when they might discover the kid is sneaking out to public restrooms for head? Or simply acting like a huge slut at home after school up in their room? Or on webcam or cellphone doing BAD things - with their sexuality (no matter the orientation).

There are lots of parents of heterosexual daughters who don't hate their daughters sexual orientation. But instead they come to hate and have endless conflicts over that daughter acting like a slut and putting out for the entire football team (and not even the home team)!

Maybe this guy, who "disappears" at times had some sort of sexual BEHAVIOR history which his mom could no longer deal with or tolerate. Which is something different than her inability to accept a child's sexual orientation.

And did he try to kill himself in Boot Camp? Or as he suggests in one of his twitter messages even today, he seems to be a guy who likes some public men's room sex.

Again, he didn't provide an affidavit from the US military hospital certifying he had tried to kill himself.

He only had an e-mail exchange mentioning it all angrily with his father. But then his father apparently only knows what his son has told him.

And who would have been the kid's "significant" other? Again, his choice of vague terminology as he really tells us nothing.

If he had/has a significant other, really, what bearing would that have on a debt owed? After all, that was what he was dragged into court over - an unpaid debt.

Does he have to pay his "significant other" any rent? Or does the "significant other" support him?

Orrr...will we see this guy in another episode of The Peoples Court when his "significant other" (be it man or woman) sues his ass for cutting out on half the rent due?

 

[refujiunderground]

But again, his real mother wasn't there in court. She didn't even supply a signed affidavit telling her side of things. It was stated though by the defendant himself that she didn't kick him out of her house. He chose to leave. And at 16. And really, only to go live with his father.

I mean, he could have run away and joined a gay circus if things were truly that horrid.

Lots of kids of divorce follow a similar pattern and at that same age. They suddenly switch parents or go to live with their same sex parent.

So we don't know for certain that the real mother "neglected" him at all. That was simply a word he used.

But let's give him the benefit of the doubt and that was the way he FELT. Maybe she was a hard, cold bitch. Or maybe at 16 a lot of boys can't relate to mom as they might hope to with dad - where they go to suddenly live thinking things will be different.

As for the sexual orientation thing? Again, he never says gay. Why not? He isn't 87 you know. Maybe he had some terrific sense of Catholic guilt imposed upon him which prevents him from uttering the word. But as we both see, he uses every other term, euphemism and image to suggest such.

But its an interesting choice by a suffering "gay" guy to enroll in the military suddenly. If he's so damaged by or paranoid about how people consider his sexuality, Boot Camp was an interesting place to head off to.

But I wanted to make a bigger point regarding the whole sexuality issue.

Is it always that a parent hates the sexual orientation? Or could it be - with some kid who might act out - the ways in which they express their sexuality? Or the things they might be DOING, in other words.

Meaning that while his mother might have not minded her son's gayness or even just "tolerated" it, what happens to such a parent when they might discover the kid is sneaking out to public restrooms for head? Or simply acting like a huge slut at home after school up in their room? Or on webcam or cellphone doing BAD things - with their sexuality (no matter the orientation).

There are lots of parents of heterosexual daughters who don't hate their daughters sexual orientation. But instead they come to hate and have endless conflicts over that daughter acting like a slut and putting out for the entire football team (and not even the home team)!

Maybe this guy, who "disappears" at times had some sort of sexual BEHAVIOR history which his mom could no longer deal with or tolerate. Which is something different than her inability to accept a child's sexual orientation.

And did he try to kill himself in Boot Camp? Or as he suggests in one of his twitter messages even today, he seems to be a guy who likes some public men's room sex.

Again, he didn't provide an affidavit from the US military hospital certifying he had tried to kill himself.

He only had an e-mail exchange mentioning it all angrily with his father. But then his father apparently only knows what his son has told him.

And who would have been the kid's "significant" other? Again, his choice of vague terminology as he really tells us nothing.

If he had/has a significant other, really, what bearing would that have on a debt owed? After all, that was what he was dragged into court over - an unpaid debt.

Does he have to pay his "significant other" any rent? Or does the "significant other" support him?

Orrr...will we see this guy in another episode of The Peoples Court when his "significant other" (be it man or woman) sues his ass for cutting out on half the rent due?

uhhh.... i DOUBT that whenever someone says "because of their sexual orientation" that they're implying that they're straight especially in a society where it's the norm to be straight. last time i remember, straight males weren't being discriminated against.

and his significant other was in court with him.

 

[hungkee]

uhhh.... i DOUBT that whenever someone says "because of their sexual orientation" that they're implying that they're straight especially in a society where it's the norm to be straight. last time i remember, straight males weren't being discriminated against.

and his significant other was in court with him.

but we don't know that. and in his own tweeted words (post-The Peoples Court) he says he wasn't "gay" back then - nor is he now.

of course, he might find the words hard to choke out for myriad reasons.

he's shy.

he's a good Catholic boy at heart.

he could be confused sexually.

he could easily be bisexual and therefore, in his semantics, he's being honest by saying that he isn't "gay".

maybe someone ought to ask him if he's bi.

and see what sort of answer he comes up (short of a reply of, "I'm very sexual", of course). lol

 

[refujiunderground]

but we don't know that. and in his own tweeted words (post-The Peoples Court) he says he wasn't "gay" back then - nor is he now.

of course, he might find the words hard to choke out for myriad reasons.

he's shy.

he's a good Catholic boy at heart.

he could be confused sexually.

he could easily be bisexual and therefore, in his semantics, he's being honest by saying that he isn't "gay".

maybe someone ought to ask him if he's bi.

and see what sort of answer he comes up (short of a reply of, "I'm very sexual", of course). lol

you can put two and two together that the guy has issues with his sexual orientation and his religion plays a major part into that.

 

[mxpxl199]

RE: His tweet about the "fat faggot treat".

This is a line from a Louis CK comedy bit where he describes a Cinnabon as having "jizzy sauce" and then later calls it a "fat faggot treat" since he is eating the jizzy sauce.

So, may not be in the best taste (pun) but seems that is an reference to a comedy bit rather than a homophobic tweet.

 

[hungkee]

RE: His tweet about the "fat faggot treat".

This is a line from a Louis CK comedy bit where he describes a Cinnabon as having "jizzy sauce" and then later calls it a "fat faggot treat" since he is eating the jizzy sauce.

So, may not be in the best taste (pun) but seems that is an reference to a comedy bit rather than a homophobic tweet.

its the use of it in a tweet. its simply to say that its interesting what sort of rhetoric sticks in this kid's head.

 

[mydrew1]

Where in the clips did it say the son is gay?

He was asked why he left his mother's home. He said because of his "sexual orientation."