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And here I thought you were having a good time.
I thought maybe the magic was of another variety.
I thought maybe the magic was of another variety.
Most excellent, Vince! You and Taz made a great pic.
I didn't realize how small I am until I saw this pic. He's massive.
Vince,
Thanks for the pic, it's great!
Love your smiles - good times for sure.
And the short/tall pairing is a classic - of course, it's sometimes short fat with tall skinny, but makes no nevermind.
Mutt & Jeff
Laurel & Hardy
My son (5'-7"ish) and one of his two best friends (6'-6") were such a pairing all through high school - and beyond.
Taz and his friend are out getting LOTS of Fresh Air today - or so I am told.
I'm not sure if he'll have pics, but they'll be soaring above the rest, if he does.
Thanks for the pic, it's great!
Love your smiles - good times for sure.
And the short/tall pairing is a classic - of course, it's sometimes short fat with tall skinny, but makes no nevermind.
Mutt & Jeff
Laurel & Hardy
My son (5'-7"ish) and one of his two best friends (6'-6") were such a pairing all through high school - and beyond.
Taz and his friend are out getting LOTS of Fresh Air today - or so I am told.
I'm not sure if he'll have pics, but they'll be soaring above the rest, if he does.
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If you are happy, I am happy!
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If you are happy, I am happy!
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Taz
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God I look awful in that picture. Thanks Vince hahaha
As for today, it was amazing. I went to a mountain overlooking Laguna de Guatavita
Which is the origin place of the legend of el dorado. There we literally flew over the valley and the lake. It was indescribable, a feeling of amazing freedom, and to be surrounded by so much beauty below us.
It's an experience I'll never forget. And something inherently Colombian.
Aqui hay algunas fotos
That last one is me, taken by my friend who had already finished his turn.
As for today, it was amazing. I went to a mountain overlooking Laguna de Guatavita
Which is the origin place of the legend of el dorado. There we literally flew over the valley and the lake. It was indescribable, a feeling of amazing freedom, and to be surrounded by so much beauty below us.
It's an experience I'll never forget. And something inherently Colombian.
Aqui hay algunas fotos
That last one is me, taken by my friend who had already finished his turn.
El Dorado? Tienes oro? lol
Looks a bit cool based on the cloud cover.
Looks like a great place to go parasailing.
Thanks for sharing your pics, Taz.
Looks a bit cool based on the cloud cover.
Looks like a great place to go parasailing.
Thanks for sharing your pics, Taz.
Taz
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No tengo oro jaja.
I couldn't see through the water from up that high. And you're right it was cold, too cold to go in for a dip and search haha.
I couldn't see through the water from up that high. And you're right it was cold, too cold to go in for a dip and search haha.
Plata?
Hey, Great memories is treasure enough - and you DID get Pics, so it's real!
Should I ask if you've come across a particular indigenous plant variety that is part of the Ancestral name for a soft drink?
Hey, Great memories is treasure enough - and you DID get Pics, so it's real!
Should I ask if you've come across a particular indigenous plant variety that is part of the Ancestral name for a soft drink?
Taz
JUB Addict
Nah not my scene.
We are however going to visit the family shaman and go on a 'journey' by drinking some yage (pronounced jahay)
Apparently it's enlightening.
We are however going to visit the family shaman and go on a 'journey' by drinking some yage (pronounced jahay)
Apparently it's enlightening.
I just knew the locals chewed leaves -
Does this family shaman experience include a smoke hut and peyote?
ya·ge
[yah-hey] Show IPA
noun
a mildly hallucinogenic drug obtained from a South American vine, Banisteriopsis caapi.
Also, yaje.
Origin:
1920–25; < American Spanish yagé, apparently < an indigenous language of SE Colombia or NE Peru
This article is about the psychoactive brew. For the vine, see Banisteriopsis caapi. For other uses, see Ayahuasca (disambiguation).
Ayahuasca cooking in the Napo region of Ecuador
Hallucinogen Ayahuasca (usually pronounced /aɪjəˈwæskə/ or /ˈaɪjəˈwɑːskə/), also commonly called yagé (/jɑːheɪ/), is a brew of various psychoactive infusions or decoctions prepared with the Banisteriopsis caapi vine. It is either mixed with the leaves of dimethyltryptamine (DMT)-containing species of shrubs from the genus Psychotria or with the leaves of the Justicia pectoralis plant which doesn't contain DMT. The brew, first described academically in the early 1950s by Harvard ethnobotanist Richard Evans Schultes, who found it employed for divinatory and healing purposes by the native peoples of Amazonian Peru, is known by a number of different names (see below).[1]
It has been reported that some effects can be had from consuming the caapi vine alone, but that DMT-containing plants (such as Psychotria) remain inactive when drunk as a brew without a source of monoamine oxidase inhibitor (MAOI) such as B. caapi. How indigenous peoples discovered the synergistic properties of the plants used in the ayahuasca brew remains unclear. While many indigenous Amazonian people say they received the instructions directly from plants and plant spirits, researchers have devised a number of alternative theories to explain its discovery.[1]
People who have consumed ayahuasca report having spiritual revelations regarding their purpose on earth, the true nature of the universe as well as deep insight into how to be the best person they possibly can.[2] This is viewed by many as a spiritual awakening and what's often described as a rebirth.[3] In addition it is often reported that individuals can gain access to higher spiritual dimensions and make contact with various spiritual or extra dimensional beings who can act as guides or healers.[4]
It's nearly always said that people experience profound positive changes in their life subsequent to consuming ayahuasca[5] and it is often viewed as one of the most effective tools of enlightenment.[6] However, during an ayahuasca experience, people sometimes report nausea, diarrhea, and cold flashes. Additionally, vomiting can follow ayahuasca ingestion; this purging is considered by many shamans and experienced users of ayahuasca to be an essential part of the experience as it represents the release of negative energy and emotions built up over the course of one's life.[7]
Further, it should be noted that the ingestion of ayahuasca can cause significant, but temporary emotional and psychological distress. There are many reports of miraculous physical as well as emotional and spiritual healing resulting from the use of ayahuasca.[8] Long-term negative effects are not known.[9]
For various reasons shamans and experienced users of ayahuasca strongly advise against consuming ayahuasca when not in the presence of one or several well-trained shamans. [10] It is believed that one of the core functions of a shaman is to provide a kind of spiritual protection that keeps negative entities away. This includes not only spirits but other shamans referred to as brujos who practice a form of shamanic witchcraft and can enter the space and attempt to harm people having consumed ayahuasca. [11]
Additionally it should be noted that these brujos often masquerade as real shamans enticing tourists to drink ayahuasca in their presence. Real shamans believe one of the purposes for this is to steal ones energy and or power, which they believe every person has a stockpile of. [12] It is very important for individuals seeking an ayahuasca experience to find a reputable shaman before hastily drinking with anyone who claims to be a shaman or offers one ayahuasca.[13]
Finally there are a number of pharmaceutical drugs that when taken in conjunction with ayahuasca can cause symptoms that range from intense sickness to death in rare cases. This is due to the MAOI that is present in the Banisteriopsis Caapi vine. Any anti-anxiety or antidepressant medication should strictly be avoided for at lease one week before and after an ayahuasca ceremony. It is recommended that if you are taking any medications that you consult your doctor well in advance.
Ayahuasca is used largely as a religious sacrament. Users of ayahuasca in non-traditional contexts often align themselves with the philosophies and cosmologies associated with ayahuasca shamanism, as practiced among indigenous peoples like the Urarina of Peruvian Amazonia.[26] While non-native users know of the spiritual applications of ayahuasca, a less well-known traditional usage focuses on the medicinal properties of ayahuasca. When used for its medicinal purposes ayahuasca affects the human consciousness for less than six hours, beginning half an hour after consumption, and peaking after two hours. Ayahuasca also has cardiovascular effects, moderately increasing both heart rate and diastolic blood pressure. In some cases, individuals experience significant psychological stress during the experience. It is for this reason that extreme caution should be taken with those who may be at risk of heart disease.[27]
The psychedelic effects of ayahuasca include visual and auditory stimulation, the mixing of sensory modalities, and psychological introspection that may lead to great elation, fear, or illumination. Its purgative properties are important (known as la purga or "the purge"). The intense vomiting and occasional diarrhea it induces can clear the body of worms and other tropical parasites,[28] and harmala alkaloids themselves have been shown to be anthelmintic[29] Thus, this action is twofold; a direct action on the parasites by these harmala alkaloids (particularly harmine in ayahuasca) works to kill the parasites, and parasites are expelled through the increased intestinal motility that is caused by these alkaloids.
Urarina shaman, 1988
Dietary taboos are often associated with the use of ayahuasca.[30] In the rainforest, these tend towards the purification of one's self – abstaining from spicy and heavily-seasoned foods, excess fat, salt, caffeine, acidic foods (such as citrus) and sex before, after, or during a ceremony. A diet low in foods containing tyramine has been recommended, as the speculative interaction of tyramine and MAOIs could lead to a hypertensive crisis. However, evidence indicates that harmala alkaloids act only on MAO-A, in a reversible way similar to moclobemide (an antidepressant that does not require dietary restrictions). Dietary restrictions are not used by the highly urban Brazilian ayahuasca church União do Vegetal, suggesting the risk is much lower than perceived, and probably non-existent.[30]
In some areas[specify], it is even said that the chakruna or chaliponga admixtures are added only to make the brew taste sweeter.[citation needed] This is a strong indicator of the often wildly divergent intentions and cultural differences between the native ayahuasca-using cultures and psychedelics enthusiasts in other countries.
A visitor who wishes to become a "dietero" or "dietera", that is, a male or female apprentice-shaman learning the way of the teacher plants, undergoes a rigorous initiation. This can involve spending up to a year or more in the jungle. This initiation challenges and trains the initiate through extreme circumstances involving a special diet and numerous different plant medicines to complement the ayahuasca, the lack of western food and conveniences, the harsh environmental conditions of heavy rains, storms, intense heat, insects, and venomous animals. The initiate is also tested for their unwavering commitment to ayahuasca and the shaman who oversees the training.[citation
Sounds like you're headed towards an Interesting experience - which might include a gastro-intestinal cleaning out.
Does this family shaman experience include a smoke hut and peyote?
ya·ge
[yah-hey] Show IPA
noun
a mildly hallucinogenic drug obtained from a South American vine, Banisteriopsis caapi.
Also, yaje.
Origin:
1920–25; < American Spanish yagé, apparently < an indigenous language of SE Colombia or NE Peru
This article is about the psychoactive brew. For the vine, see Banisteriopsis caapi. For other uses, see Ayahuasca (disambiguation).
Ayahuasca cooking in the Napo region of Ecuador
Hallucinogen Ayahuasca (usually pronounced /aɪjəˈwæskə/ or /ˈaɪjəˈwɑːskə/), also commonly called yagé (/jɑːheɪ/), is a brew of various psychoactive infusions or decoctions prepared with the Banisteriopsis caapi vine. It is either mixed with the leaves of dimethyltryptamine (DMT)-containing species of shrubs from the genus Psychotria or with the leaves of the Justicia pectoralis plant which doesn't contain DMT. The brew, first described academically in the early 1950s by Harvard ethnobotanist Richard Evans Schultes, who found it employed for divinatory and healing purposes by the native peoples of Amazonian Peru, is known by a number of different names (see below).[1]
It has been reported that some effects can be had from consuming the caapi vine alone, but that DMT-containing plants (such as Psychotria) remain inactive when drunk as a brew without a source of monoamine oxidase inhibitor (MAOI) such as B. caapi. How indigenous peoples discovered the synergistic properties of the plants used in the ayahuasca brew remains unclear. While many indigenous Amazonian people say they received the instructions directly from plants and plant spirits, researchers have devised a number of alternative theories to explain its discovery.[1]
People who have consumed ayahuasca report having spiritual revelations regarding their purpose on earth, the true nature of the universe as well as deep insight into how to be the best person they possibly can.[2] This is viewed by many as a spiritual awakening and what's often described as a rebirth.[3] In addition it is often reported that individuals can gain access to higher spiritual dimensions and make contact with various spiritual or extra dimensional beings who can act as guides or healers.[4]
It's nearly always said that people experience profound positive changes in their life subsequent to consuming ayahuasca[5] and it is often viewed as one of the most effective tools of enlightenment.[6] However, during an ayahuasca experience, people sometimes report nausea, diarrhea, and cold flashes. Additionally, vomiting can follow ayahuasca ingestion; this purging is considered by many shamans and experienced users of ayahuasca to be an essential part of the experience as it represents the release of negative energy and emotions built up over the course of one's life.[7]
Further, it should be noted that the ingestion of ayahuasca can cause significant, but temporary emotional and psychological distress. There are many reports of miraculous physical as well as emotional and spiritual healing resulting from the use of ayahuasca.[8] Long-term negative effects are not known.[9]
For various reasons shamans and experienced users of ayahuasca strongly advise against consuming ayahuasca when not in the presence of one or several well-trained shamans. [10] It is believed that one of the core functions of a shaman is to provide a kind of spiritual protection that keeps negative entities away. This includes not only spirits but other shamans referred to as brujos who practice a form of shamanic witchcraft and can enter the space and attempt to harm people having consumed ayahuasca. [11]
Additionally it should be noted that these brujos often masquerade as real shamans enticing tourists to drink ayahuasca in their presence. Real shamans believe one of the purposes for this is to steal ones energy and or power, which they believe every person has a stockpile of. [12] It is very important for individuals seeking an ayahuasca experience to find a reputable shaman before hastily drinking with anyone who claims to be a shaman or offers one ayahuasca.[13]
Finally there are a number of pharmaceutical drugs that when taken in conjunction with ayahuasca can cause symptoms that range from intense sickness to death in rare cases. This is due to the MAOI that is present in the Banisteriopsis Caapi vine. Any anti-anxiety or antidepressant medication should strictly be avoided for at lease one week before and after an ayahuasca ceremony. It is recommended that if you are taking any medications that you consult your doctor well in advance.
Ayahuasca is used largely as a religious sacrament. Users of ayahuasca in non-traditional contexts often align themselves with the philosophies and cosmologies associated with ayahuasca shamanism, as practiced among indigenous peoples like the Urarina of Peruvian Amazonia.[26] While non-native users know of the spiritual applications of ayahuasca, a less well-known traditional usage focuses on the medicinal properties of ayahuasca. When used for its medicinal purposes ayahuasca affects the human consciousness for less than six hours, beginning half an hour after consumption, and peaking after two hours. Ayahuasca also has cardiovascular effects, moderately increasing both heart rate and diastolic blood pressure. In some cases, individuals experience significant psychological stress during the experience. It is for this reason that extreme caution should be taken with those who may be at risk of heart disease.[27]
The psychedelic effects of ayahuasca include visual and auditory stimulation, the mixing of sensory modalities, and psychological introspection that may lead to great elation, fear, or illumination. Its purgative properties are important (known as la purga or "the purge"). The intense vomiting and occasional diarrhea it induces can clear the body of worms and other tropical parasites,[28] and harmala alkaloids themselves have been shown to be anthelmintic[29] Thus, this action is twofold; a direct action on the parasites by these harmala alkaloids (particularly harmine in ayahuasca) works to kill the parasites, and parasites are expelled through the increased intestinal motility that is caused by these alkaloids.
Urarina shaman, 1988
Dietary taboos are often associated with the use of ayahuasca.[30] In the rainforest, these tend towards the purification of one's self – abstaining from spicy and heavily-seasoned foods, excess fat, salt, caffeine, acidic foods (such as citrus) and sex before, after, or during a ceremony. A diet low in foods containing tyramine has been recommended, as the speculative interaction of tyramine and MAOIs could lead to a hypertensive crisis. However, evidence indicates that harmala alkaloids act only on MAO-A, in a reversible way similar to moclobemide (an antidepressant that does not require dietary restrictions). Dietary restrictions are not used by the highly urban Brazilian ayahuasca church União do Vegetal, suggesting the risk is much lower than perceived, and probably non-existent.[30]
In some areas[specify], it is even said that the chakruna or chaliponga admixtures are added only to make the brew taste sweeter.[citation needed] This is a strong indicator of the often wildly divergent intentions and cultural differences between the native ayahuasca-using cultures and psychedelics enthusiasts in other countries.
A visitor who wishes to become a "dietero" or "dietera", that is, a male or female apprentice-shaman learning the way of the teacher plants, undergoes a rigorous initiation. This can involve spending up to a year or more in the jungle. This initiation challenges and trains the initiate through extreme circumstances involving a special diet and numerous different plant medicines to complement the ayahuasca, the lack of western food and conveniences, the harsh environmental conditions of heavy rains, storms, intense heat, insects, and venomous animals. The initiate is also tested for their unwavering commitment to ayahuasca and the shaman who oversees the training.[citation
Sounds like you're headed towards an Interesting experience - which might include a gastro-intestinal cleaning out.
Taz
JUB Addict
Yeah I already did my research. And the family told me what to expect. Apparently spewing is to be expected, and the shits maybe haha.
The things we do in the name of love?????!
Taz
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So Yesterday was something of a giant history and culture lesson for me. We went into the center of Bogota, which is filled with beautiful old buildings and chrurches (most with the be a good catholic or burn, guilt vibes) and some not so beautiful dilapidated buildings.
We explored the candelaria region, which is their government (and corruption) area. We had to pass through checkpoints of armed guards which was a little daunting, but when you actually spoke with them they were quite friendly.
We also visited numerous museums, the museum of gold, emeralds, the national museum was my favourite though, as it had a detailed history of Colombia all the way from its indigenous beginnings, through the Spanish conquest, and liberation. Personally i found the indigenous most interesting, their culture and technology is pretty amazing. I often compare other indigenous to my own ancestry, and feel disappointing that the height of thier invention was a stick with a hole through the center (joking haha) but I do find other cultures much more interesting than my own roots.
Here are a few happy snaps for those of you still interested.
We explored the candelaria region, which is their government (and corruption) area. We had to pass through checkpoints of armed guards which was a little daunting, but when you actually spoke with them they were quite friendly.
We also visited numerous museums, the museum of gold, emeralds, the national museum was my favourite though, as it had a detailed history of Colombia all the way from its indigenous beginnings, through the Spanish conquest, and liberation. Personally i found the indigenous most interesting, their culture and technology is pretty amazing. I often compare other indigenous to my own ancestry, and feel disappointing that the height of thier invention was a stick with a hole through the center (joking haha) but I do find other cultures much more interesting than my own roots.
Here are a few happy snaps for those of you still interested.
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Good Grief, Taz! 
You have NO Idea just how Envious of, and Thrilled for, You that I am right Now!
Talk about an AWESOME Adventure!
THANK YOU! for sharing with us mere mortals!!
Keep smilin'!!
Chaz
You have NO Idea just how Envious of, and Thrilled for, You that I am right Now!
Talk about an AWESOME Adventure!
THANK YOU! for sharing with us mere mortals!!
Keep smilin'!!
Chaz
Taz,
Thanks for the update- they are great pics and you are a good looking guy - your friend is no slouch either, just sayin'.
To think of the history - I studied Spanish in grades 7 thru 12, and we got some of the South American history, along with some Mexico, but it was mainly the hi-lites.
Churches are always interesting to me - having been active on our parish council and the building needs committee when we added on back in the early '90's, knowing the changing dictates from on high regarding placement of things like the blessed sacrament - it's not supposed to be in the reredos (altar screen) behind the altar any more - competes with the body and blood of Christ ON the altar during mass . . .
I could go on and on - but I won't bore you any more than I already have, lol.
We really appreciate you keeping us up to date on your journeys.
When I didn't see you on last night I was wondering if you were having that family mystical/religious experience session.
THAT's one I DEFINITELY want to know more about - even if it's by PM.
Thanks for the update- they are great pics and you are a good looking guy - your friend is no slouch either, just sayin'.
To think of the history - I studied Spanish in grades 7 thru 12, and we got some of the South American history, along with some Mexico, but it was mainly the hi-lites.
Churches are always interesting to me - having been active on our parish council and the building needs committee when we added on back in the early '90's, knowing the changing dictates from on high regarding placement of things like the blessed sacrament - it's not supposed to be in the reredos (altar screen) behind the altar any more - competes with the body and blood of Christ ON the altar during mass . . .
I could go on and on - but I won't bore you any more than I already have, lol.
We really appreciate you keeping us up to date on your journeys.
When I didn't see you on last night I was wondering if you were having that family mystical/religious experience session.
THAT's one I DEFINITELY want to know more about - even if it's by PM.
Oh wow - excellent photos man.
Didn't see the paragliding ones - looks heaps like around here. Beautiful churches, but more than a little suspicious of one of those artifact heads.
Damn that looks like a good trip
Is Vince goosing you on the slopy beach there?
Didn't see the paragliding ones - looks heaps like around here. Beautiful churches, but more than a little suspicious of one of those artifact heads.
Damn that looks like a good trip
Is Vince goosing you on the slopy beach there?
I'm hoping our personal world tour guides have some pictures from yesterday's adventure- and Taz isn't on oxygen from the heights!
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