I want to stay at home with Ann Romney

[LuvFindsAndyHardy]

sorry, double post

 

[JB3]

In my opinion, he was wrong to do it. By doing so he fed into the fake outrage and allowed the right to frame the argument as something other than it was.

Did you even pay attention to what he said? Most of his statement was about not attacking spouses, with only a small statement about how ill-advised her words were.

What I find funny is that most people here would be wailing at the top of the lungs if Karl Rove or some other republican made a similar statement about Michelle Obama.

 

[JB3]

That's because, in her pathological and self serving need to stay relevant, she's got it wrong (again!)

The public disagrees with you. Judging by the immediate, and visceral, response to Rosen's comments, the comments she made about Mrs. Romney were inappropriate and offensive.

 

[evanrick]

she's got MS by the way

oh its a good thing people with MS wont face discrimination thanks to Obomneycare.

 

[evanrick]

Darn it!! I thought this thread was really going to be about "staying home with Ann Romney!"

I wish I could stay home with Ann Romney and not have to worry about anything. We could share juicy gossip, go together on shopping sprees to Neiman Marcus, get mani-pedis together, get massages from hunky, muscular guys

But I digress.

Regardless of where you stand politically, this was a major WIN for the Republicans. The Republicans were being hammered for weeks, after Rush Limbaugh called law student Sandra Fluke a "slut" and a "prostitute." The Democrats -- including President Obama -- made the argument that the Republican Party was waging a "war on women" and that Republicans were "anti-women." Which was also politically expedient to do because women voters overall lean Democratic.

That round on the "War on Women" went to the Democrats.

But then, liberal lesbian Hilary Rosen comes on air and makes the comment "Ann Romney never worked a day in her life." Now, it's quite possible that statement is true. But by making that statement, it also made Hilary Rosen look like she was looking down upon women who have chosen to not work, but instead to be full-time mothers. It also came across as very elitist -- here is this wealthy lesbian woman with a high salary job looking down on women who choose to not earn money outside the home. Nut-job "doctor" and Fox news contributor Keith Ablow went on write a column that liberal feminist lesbians who hate men look down upon conservative women who let the man be the "breadwinner" for the household. Sarah Palin said Hillary Rosen has re-awoken the conservative "Mama Grizzlies".

This round in the "war on women" goes to the Republicans.

Its pretty cynical to equate a millionaire with a mom who has 3 jobs or NO JOBS because Mitt Romney fired all the workers and struggles to support her children.

More fake outrage im afraid.

 

[evanrick]

The public disagrees with you. Judging by the immediate, and visceral, response to Rosen's comments, the comments she made about Mrs. Romney were inappropriate and offensive.

because they were true. more outrage please.

 

[evanrick]

I can't let that go, Chance. Ann Romney wasn't attacked. Her husband used her name to attempt to endear himself to (fleeing) women voters by saying she "advised" him on women's economic issues. Hilary Rosen was taking Mitt to task. She said Ann Romney didn't work, so how could she advise him. We ALL know exactly what she meant when she said this but your side saw a chance to whip up a fake outrage frenzy and pretend that Rosen was "demeaning" stay at home mothers. It's bullshit. It's also bullshit to claim that Ann Romney is in a position to advise her husband on what working women have to face on a daily basis.

As I said in the other (prematurely) closed thread. It's funny that, when Mitt is talking about welfare recipients, raising children is not "work," but millionaire Ann Romney's choice to stay at home is a "career" and somehow saying it's different than being out in the work force is slapping stay at home mothers. (whaaaaaaattt?)

Unbelievable!!!

Having MS does not mean that you are immune from common sense analysis of your qualifications as an "Adviser on women's issues."

NO ONE is saying that a woman shouldn't stay home and raise her kids if she is able and wants to. NO ONE is saying it's not noble and NO ONE is saying it isn't a tough job or unimportant, but to PRETEND it gives you insight into what working women who often live paycheck to paycheck go through is (AT BEST) disingenuous and out of touch.

quoted for truth. remember McCains ' i own 7 houses' comment, this is the same thing and i cannot wait for romney to collapse even further.

republicans will pretend they give a damn about stay at home moms when they are simply using them as political props.

 

[evanrick]

that was genius politically

his wife Michelle tweeted it asap - also genius

they threw the woman who's visited the WH 30+ times straight under the bus

she's toast

I actually think she just put foot in mouth and it really wasn't as bad as it has been portrayed

oh believe me there are realists within liberal circles, i am not one of them, i would have said the same thing because it needs to be said. if she has to pay a price for her comments, we at least get to watch republicans make fools of themselves by feigning offense.

 

[evanrick]

Did you even pay attention to what he said? Most of his statement was about not attacking spouses, with only a small statement about how ill-advised her words were.

What I find funny is that most people here would be wailing at the top of the lungs if Karl Rove or some other republican made a similar statement about Michelle Obama.

no actually we wouldn't. we expect that kind of stuff from republicans and so does the electorate. when a liberal says something everyone is thinking, we scapegoat them because we cant admit to ourselves that the truth can be powerful.

 

[Just_Believe18]

We can conclude a personal attack against Ann Romney is unwarranted and irrelevant to the discussion of who is qualified to be president to lead this country. Who cares what she's done with her life. She's married a man who's taken care of her and she's raised her kids. That's all we need to be concerned with.

 

[andysayshi]

^ I agree with you 100%. Picking on Moms will never, ever help anyone, on either side. It's not worth visiting.

But I can't resist throwing a stink bomb in here before i leave.

Mitt Romney: Mothers Should Be Required To Work Outside Home Or Lose Benefits

Apparently raising kids is not so hard that Mom shouldn't go get a job.

 

[LuvFindsAndyHardy]

Did you even pay attention to what he said? Most of his statement was about not attacking spouses, with only a small statement about how ill-advised her words were.

Yes and by doing so he fed into the fiction that this was about Rosen "attacking" Mrs. Romney in the first place.

The public disagrees with you. Judging by the immediate, and visceral, response to Rosen's comments, the comments she made about Mrs. Romney were inappropriate and offensive.

Only to the people to either A) didn't understand what was being said or B) did understand and were purposely misleading. As for the public, more often than not they need someone to TELL them how to feel which is what makes the fake outrage machine so important.

 

[kayman23]

This is quite possibly the lamest controversy I've seen. It's not what Hilary Rosen said wasn't true...

 

[maxpowr9]

This is quite possibly the lamest controversy I've seen. It's not what Hilary Rosen said wasn't true...

True. Although I would be a bit curious if Ann Romney has actually ever worked a day in her adult life. "Supporting your husband" is not an occupation. I had a neighbor who got married right after college and she just sits at home all day doing nothing while her husband works. Reckon she has a child now (who is now of school age) but still.

 

[chance1]

True. Although I would be a bit curious if Ann Romney has actually ever worked a day in her adult life. "Supporting your husband" is not an occupation. I had a neighbor who got married right after college and she just sits at home all day doing nothing while her husband works. Reckon she has a child now (who is now of school age) but still.

this is telling

and basically the point of the whole thing

 

[CowboyBob]

The original comment and the initial reaction is simply more fake outrage from the thin-skinned far right radicals. We saw this over and over and over when Sarah Palin was chewing up the scenery during the 2008 campaign. Remember the lipstick on a pig comment and the fake outrage over that? Anything the desperate right radical reactionaries can grasp onto they will.

And Cocksucker is right. Ann Romney didn't raise her kids without a lot of hired assistance.

It's more fake outrage from the far-right reactionaries.

 

[palbert]

I would like to stay at home with Mrs. Romney because I could then insinuate myself into the boys' lives. I am sorry she has MS but its relevance to Mitt's quest I don't understand. I think she would serve a nice luncheon. I can really think of no reason to even think of her beyond her ability to be fruitful.

 

[LuvFindsAndyHardy]

I think she would serve a nice luncheon.

Funniest comment of the day!!

(and most likely true!)

 

[chance1]

The truth of the matter is the right wing are desperate. They need to find something to be outraged about. There aren't enough issues out there for them to get angry about.

actually most all non loon libs are in step with President Obama and his wife on this issue

as in ............ it was a dumb thing for Hillary Rosen to do and diminishes the concept of the "stay at home mom" having value or it being considered "work"

it's pretty simple stuff

so it's NOT republican outrage

it's reasonable people outrage

and a glorious point counterpoint to The Joker's RWOW

get with the program will ya ?

 

[CowboyBob]

Someone..... it will probably be a Democrat running for re-election...... will make a comment about Ann Romney that isn't a compliment. It will be something about her shoes or the way she held her coffee cup and the right-wing loonies will latch on to that like flies on shit and turn it into a Broadway production. They do it every time.

As mentioned in this and other threads, it's desperation. They need to grasp on anything at all to demonize the opponent.