Iconically & stereotypically gay films

[curiousunistudent]

Does anybody know of any films that are considered iconically "gay"?

I was having a conversation yesterday with a 'straight' friend of mine in work. We were talking about our planned works night out and he had asked my opinion on what he should wear ... I said "so long as you don't wear those shoes, you'll be fine" and he got really offended. He turned to storm off and as he did so, said "Fuck off and go and watch flashdance".

This led me to wonder if the straights think of some films as 'gay icons'. And if they think we do nothing but sit and watch the film while saying every word from memory ... (I admit I do this with pretty woman)

So I was wondering if you know of any other films that this could be attributed to ...

The two that I've figured so far are Flashdance and Pretty Woman.

Any suggestions?

 

[curiousunistudent]

Oh, I've thought of another one ... Dirty Dancing. Oh Patrick Swayze, just OH!

And some belting tunes!

 

[kallipolis]

I much prefer to watch John Wayne, and Clint Eastwood films over Flashdance, and similar ilk.

Am I less gay than others?

Should I turn in my gay membership card?

 

[curiousunistudent]

I much prefer to watch John Wayne, and Clint Eastwood films over Flashdance, and similar ilk.

Am I less gay than others?

Should I turn in my gay membership card?

Well, quite clearly, you have dropped your gay card somewhere along the road. The yellow brick road.

 

[kallipolis]

Well, quite clearly, you have dropped your gay card somewhere along the road. The yellow brick road.

My question is should people who enjoy dance musicals be considered closeted gays, or gay simply because they enjoy watching Fred Astaire, and Ginger Rogers delight us with mind boggling dance routines, and gorgeous melodies?

Do gays hold a monopoly on enjoyment of musicals such as Flashdance?

 

[curiousunistudent]

My question is should people who enjoy dance musicals be considered closeted gays, or gay simply because they enjoy watching Fred Astaire, and Ginger Rogers delight us with mind boggling dance routines, and gorgeous melodies?

Do gays hold a monopoly on enjoyment of musicals such as Flashdance?

You do realise that I didn't ever state anything of the sort.

As in my orgininal post;

This led me to wonder if the straights think of some films as 'gay icons'. And if they think we do nothing but sit and watch the film while saying every word from memory ...

That's all I want. Films that straights may consider 'iconically gay'. So put on your big girl pants and either answer with something useful, or go and watch Dirty Harry

 

[kallipolis]

You do realise that I didn't ever state anything of the sort.

As in my orgininal post;



That's all I want. Films that straights may consider 'iconically gay'. So put on your big girl pants and either answer with something useful, or go and watch Dirty Harry

I am not straight, and to the best of my knowledge most people posting on this site are not straight, thus your question might best be directed elsewhere where you might conceivably receive appropriate responses.

I repeat... my question is, why do you assume that straights may consider dance musicals, such as Flashdance "iconically gay" when such films appeal across all sexual orientations, genders, cultures, age groups etc.?

I appreciate that my question is insufficiently superficial but nevertheless attempts to address your assumption that dance musicals such as Flashdance are gay icons.

 

[star-warrior]

Kinda like the following you mean?

Dustin Hoffman and Tootsie
Robin Williams and Mrs. Doubtfire

 

[kallipolis]

Kinda like the following you mean?

Dustin Hoffman and Tootsie
Robin Williams and Mrs. Doubtfire

Very popular family entertainment.

 

[curiousunistudent]

I repeat... my question is, why do you assume that straights may consider dance musicals, such as Flashdance "iconically gay" when such films appeal across all sexual orientations, genders, cultures, age groups etc.?

I assume it because of what my straight friend said to me, as I posted in my op. I never said that such films didn't appeal to both genders and all sexual orientations, I was just wondering why he told me to, and I quote, "Fuck off and watch Flashdance". And I thought that since he said this, did he assume that flashdance was a "gay film" because he used it as an insult of sorts, because he sure as hell wouldn't say that to offend a straight guy in the office.

I appreciate that my question is insufficiently superficial but nevertheless attempts to address your assumption that dance musicals such as Flashdance are gay icons.

Bitch, please.

 

[kallipolis]

I assume it because of what my straight friend said to me, as I posted in my op. I never said that such films didn't appeal to both genders and all sexual orientations, I was just wondering why he told me to, and I quote, "Fuck off and watch Flashdance". And I thought that since he said this, did he assume that flashdance was a "gay film" because he used it as an insult of sorts, because he sure as hell wouldn't say that to offend a straight guy in the office.



Bitch, please.

Your straight friend is the only person who can address your question, and provide you with a reply that adequately explains his reaction.

Speculating on the response of a straight man by addressing your question to a predominately gay audience hardly assists you, for the responses will be purely speculative.

My point is that gay men are as likely, and as unlikely to enjoy Flashdance as are other people.

 

[curiousunistudent]

Way to kill a thread with a well though out argument big man

 

[kallipolis]

Way to kill a thread with a well though out argument big man

You have offered us a scenario and I have addressed your question with an analysis that invites you not to embrace a predictable stereotyping of the gay person, as your straight friend would appear to be doing in order to abuse your sense of worth as a gay man.

 

[curiousunistudent]

You have offered us a scenario and I have addressed your question with an analysis that invites you not to embrace a predictable stereotyping of the gay person, as your straight friend would appear to be doing in order to abuse your sense of worth as a gay man.

They don't get sarcasm in Greece then, hey?

Well, what with the shit storm raining down and with our banks having to bail you out ... again, maybe when you get kicked out of Europe, you'll get a sense of humor.

And, FYI, it wasn't abusing my sense of worth as a gay man, because I fucking love Flashdance, Pretty Woman, Dirty Dancing ... AND The Bodyguard. So he was right on the nail with me

 

[kallipolis]

And, FYI, it wasn't abusing my sense of worth as a gay man, because I fucking love Flashdance, Pretty Woman, Dirty Dancing ... AND The Bodyguard. So he was right on the nail with me

The matter that you have brought to our attention is not your appreciation of, or your taste in entertainment rather your visible uneasiness with your straight friend's willingness to use your taste in musicals as an insult to demonstrate his distaste for your behaviour.

We are not privy to the scenario which preceded, and generated your straight friend's abusive response, which in turn has encouraged you to post here in order to try and understand why your friend made such an abusive remark.

 

[MoltenRock III]

Jesus fucking Christ, what was the question again? My brain is in pedantic overload.

 

[MoufOfKhaos]

They don't get sarcasm in Greece then, hey?

Well, what with the shit storm raining down and with our banks having to bail you out ... again, maybe when you get kicked out of Europe, you'll get a sense of humor.

Thank hell geloge is here to show that not all Spaniards are raving dicks.

 

[Swellegant]

Flashdance? Seriously? Straight people are so weird. Flashdance is not an iconically nor steroetypically gay movie. There are no quotable lines, it's hardly a musical, and the clothes suck. I think your poorly shod coworker needs to polish his repartee.

No, movies typically or stereotypically beloved of gay men are Steel Magnolias, Showgirls, The Valley of the Dolls, Cabaret, A Chorus Line... I can't think of any more right now, I'm only on my second cup of coffee.

Now, iconically gay movies are an entirely different species from stereotypically gay movies... an iconic movie means something to us, not them. And there are already threads aplenty on this board about iconic gay films.

 

[kallipolis]

Jesus fucking Christ, what was the question again? My brain is in pedantic overload.

In my line of work preciseness is an absolute necessity.

 

[curiousunistudent]

The matter that you have brought to our attention is not your appreciation of, or your taste in entertainment rather your visible uneasiness with your straight friend's willingness to use your taste in musicals as an insult to demonstrate his distaste for your behaviour.

We are not privy to the scenario which preceded, and generated your straight friend's abusive response, which in turn has encouraged you to post here in order to try and understand why your friend made such an abusive remark.

Jesus, can you not just accept that I was simply, innocently wondering if anybody knew of any films that straights considered "gay films". Did you fail a degree in psychology or something? Stop trying to look deeply into things mystic Meg and just accept that my question was a simple one. WITH NO HIDDEN FUCKING MEANING.

I was not uneasy, as he makes comments like that all the time. I do apologize if I didn't make it clear that his 'storming off' was flamingly dramatic. It's called banter, which I'm glad I can have with one of my closest straight friends. I often reply with "go lick a vag". Greece really is a dull place, God!