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If a man says he's on PreP, is HIV+ undetectable, or wants it raw in any way

I've been married for 24 years and I look at men fucking all day.

Ergo, I don't have sex. I'd rather have a nice cup of tea and read a book.
 
I'm betting that after watching guys fuck, all day, every day, sex would be last on your list. It would be for me 😕.
 
You already that's an automatic disqualification. Scary enough, I've actually have had a few hiv positive dudes that gave messaged me on grindr and scruff like... "let's get busy, I'm undetectable, let's have raw sex". I was like seriously.

I'ma just say this though. All those guys that did that were all white guys in their early to mid 20s. Now I'm thinking to myself all skeptical like... "why is it that you got some young white guys with hiv and shit messaging a black guy talking about "have raw sex with me". Like whats up with that? What are they exactly saying? Do they think that every single gay black man is desperate to have sex with a white guy or something where they'll risk getting a sick dick for some sex. They may have genuinely been interested but I feel like to them I was like a second opinion to them because they probably getting rejected by some white guys they want to get with but their hiv status got em feeling like they are some second class citizens so they rolling up to someone like me like I'm supposed to fuck with them. Uhhh.. no. That fetish along with the whole man dingo shit already has me like thinking like.. I'm one of those conscious black men which really questions a lot of shit.


I'll never forget how this one guy that lived over in the next town was all pressuring me to go and fuck him raw talking about he's undetectable and didn't give a fuck. He basically was begging me so i gave him my number to just be friends with him and then he startes harassing saying he'll block me if i dont have sex with him. Like are you fucking kidding me? Needless to say I haven't talked to him since and don't regret it either. Sorry but don't get me mixed up in bullshit or thinking you gonna have me in a mess at your expense to be cute or something.
 
He can't be on PReP and be HIV +. PReP is for pre-exposition. Being HIV + is a contraindication to PReP. In Canada anyways. PReP isn't a full treatment regiment for HIV.
 
There is a 1.38% risk of contracting HIV from unprotected bottoming.

The risk drops to 0.39% with condom use, which is still about 1 in 300 chance. Even bare, the risk drops further to 0.06% if the top is on ART or 0.11% if the bottom is on PrEP - about 1 in 1000 chance.

If all three protective measures are used, and the top is undetectable, then transmission is practically impossible.

The risk for tops in all cases is even further reduced. However, comorbid STDs increases risk of HIV transmission.

http://wwwn.cdc.gov/hivrisk/estimator.html
 
You cannot trust anyone when it comes to sex you must assume everyone is positive and be smart practice safer sex. People will say whatever you want to hear you cannot trust anyone.
 
MorrisseyX said:
You cannot trust anyone when it comes to sex you must assume everyone is positive and be smart practice safer sex. People will say whatever you want to hear you cannot trust anyone.
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That's what I do even with women. I have friends who got with women who claimed they were on birth control pills or other types of it, or did not have any STDs and they did not use condoms and some of them have kids, and others have genital warts.
 
MorrisseyX said:
You cannot trust anyone when it comes to sex ...
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You're right. Love and Sex are Drugs. They're addictive and there are plenty of sex maniacs around.

I met this idiot twink on the scene who was boasting that he was HIV Undetectable. #-o I've been paying taxes for 20 years for my government to spend tens of millions over 30 years to persuade idiot twinks from playing with diseases.
 
The PSAs about HIV/AIDS went goodbye after Clinton left the White House. There were still some when W was in there. But you never saw them unless you were awake at 3:00AM. Since then, they're gone. Must not teach the youngin's about condoms either. They just might have sex if you do. Yeah, like they're not going to have sex if they don't know about condoms.

And we've seen just how effective abstinence only works. Ain't that right Bristol?
 
all in all, i think it's quite sad to see how sex seems to be WAY too much of a focus in the gay community where it's like way too many folks have little to no restraint and on top of that are irresponsible as fuck too. there's a total difference between being sexually liberated and just being sexually irresponsible or living dangerously. that's why the hiv rate hasn't gone down. this whole entire attitude that seems way too normal like folks have no hope.

personally, i would much rather be in a consistent relationship with someone where i'm just having sex with ONLY them where we know our status and are responsible than to be with someone who wants some casual "friends with benefits" or an open relationship where they're sleeping with whoever as in "you sleep with them and everybody that they slept with", not even getting checked up and being on some dumb shit. for me, the search to find someone that i'm attracted to that understands this basic principle of playing it safe seems to be some needle in the haystack type of shit because the norm in the gay community is "go and fuck everything until you find your unicorn and even when you do find your unicorn, don't just settle with that." i'm always growing but i'm at a point in my life where i feel like i don't need to dumb down doing stupid shit just to have fun. the shit that i've seen other guys engage in just ain't me. in fact, i think it's downright degrading and indicates a low level of respect towards themselves. they don't see themselves being shit so obviously, they ain't gonna see you as being shit either. i don't feel like risking my health to have sex with one guy who happened to be unfortunate and thinks that he should share his misfortune with others who are healthy because he doesn't want to adjust his lifestyle or face reality. it's not being an asshole and i would feel for the guy but it's not the end of the world if someone doesn't want to have sex with you. there's plenty of others that will and you'll be satisfied, happy and whatever.

fortunately, i don't have the option of running away from life or creating a fake world to run away from the brutal realities of life. the type of bullshit that you see on grindr or at wherever with grown ass men trying to be manchildren, being immature and irresponsible for a good time only for them to wake up and realize that they fucked up or missed the train by not being real. when i see folks living like that, that just tells me where their minds are at. they clearly aren't in touch with reality. you can only build a world away from reality before reality reminds you that shit ain't real. saying "i'm undetectable so you won't get hiv if we have raw sex" is clearly a reflection of someone doing exactly that and i'm quite sure there's many guys that wish they were more careful or didn't listen to that person they fucked.
 
^^ Biggest reason that I've not been intimate with anyone in 15yrs. All they want is NSA blow/fuck and go. Even been seeing way more bareback ads on Craigslist than there were a couple years ago.
 
refujiunderground said:
all in all, i think it's quite sad to see how sex seems to be WAY too much of a focus in the gay community where it's like way too many folks have little to no restraint and on top of that are irresponsible as fuck too. there's a total difference between being sexually liberated and just being sexually irresponsible or living dangerously. that's why the hiv rate hasn't gone down. this whole entire attitude that seems way too normal like folks have no hope.

personally, i would much rather be in a consistent relationship with someone where i'm just having sex with ONLY them where we know our status and are responsible than to be with someone who wants some casual "friends with benefits" or an open relationship where they're sleeping with whoever as in "you sleep with them and everybody that they slept with", not even getting checked up and being on some dumb shit. for me, the search to find someone that i'm attracted to that understands this basic principle of playing it safe seems to be some needle in the haystack type of shit because the norm in the gay community is "go and fuck everything until you find your unicorn and even when you do find your unicorn, don't just settle with that." i'm always growing but i'm at a point in my life where i feel like i don't need to dumb down doing stupid shit just to have fun. the shit that i've seen other guys engage in just ain't me. in fact, i think it's downright degrading and indicates a low level of respect towards themselves. they don't see themselves being shit so obviously, they ain't gonna see you as being shit either. i don't feel like risking my health to have sex with one guy who happened to be unfortunate and thinks that he should share his misfortune with others who are healthy because he doesn't want to adjust his lifestyle or face reality. it's not being an asshole and i would feel for the guy but it's not the end of the world if someone doesn't want to have sex with you. there's plenty of others that will and you'll be satisfied, happy and whatever.

fortunately, i don't have the option of running away from life or creating a fake world to run away from the brutal realities of life. the type of bullshit that you see on grindr or at wherever with grown ass men trying to be manchildren, being immature and irresponsible for a good time only for them to wake up and realize that they fucked up or missed the train by not being real. when i see folks living like that, that just tells me where their minds are at. they clearly aren't in touch with reality. you can only build a world away from reality before reality reminds you that shit ain't real. saying "i'm undetectable so you won't get hiv if we have raw sex" is clearly a reflection of someone doing exactly that and i'm quite sure there's many guys that wish they were more careful or didn't listen to that person they fucked.
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Agreed. I haven't hooked up with anyone in years as it's not my thing the few times I did it.
 
I would only do it raw if we were totally committed and monagamous with each other, have been tested, and were married all three anything else is a no sir no go.
 
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