If the North American Union is coming, then ...

[MystikWizard]

... are we moving towards a 1 World Government, as depicted in Zeitgeist?


www.zeitgeistmovie.com


What are your thoughts?

 

[playwithmemonkey]

I believe it. I think that it has been planned ever since the formation of the league of nations.

 

[LaloGS]

What's happened to the Trylateral Commission? Wasn't that their stated goal?

 

[JayHawk]

Their stated mission is to foster a closer relationship between Japan, Europe and America.

Take a look at their Membership

Very powerful group of folks

 

[JayHawk]

They were spawn from the CFR. Both intend to bring other nations into line with American economic thinking. In that sense you see the nations involved operating in lockstep.

 

[MystikWizard]

Add to shopping list: extra tin foil.

Alfie, if you have suspicions about 9/11 as depicted in the other thread, like well over half of Americans do as they outright reject the official 9/11 story, then why is this so hard to believe?

The country is starting to wake up on what has been going on here for the past several years.

 

[Legend500]

Tin foil hats...and don't forget the ammo! the NAU garbage is being spread by the same types that swore that the UN was preparing to invade the US a few years ago.

Not. Gonna. Happen.

 

[MystikWizard]

Tin foil hats...and don't forget the ammo! the NAU garbage is being spread by the same types that swore that the UN was preparing to invade the US a few years ago.

Not. Gonna. Happen.

Well, you might want to tell Vicente Fox, former President of Mexico that, then. Apparently, he didn't get your memo.







And Canada, as well.

 

[Legend500]

You have to be kidding me, or you didn't watch the videos all the way through. The first clip (actually double-posted) has Former President Fox stating that now that he's out of office, he intends to work for a monetary integration with the USA and Canada. He's now simply a private businessman, and an ex-president in Mexico has no constitutional power. He can do what he wants with his time, I guess...but there's no massive plan by him.

The second clip repeats what he said in the first, with one critical clarification, that monetary union "is not a critical element" and that what he believes is important is increacing understanding between countries. OOOOOHHHH! Increasing understanding! The evil goal of the devious NAU!

And really, you couldn't find anyone better in Canada to talk about this than the representative of the powerful Canadian Action Party? She represents a STUNNING 0.04% of the entirety of voting Canadians. (Wiki) Clearly she is someone whom Canadians take seriously. I suggest you try representatives from some of the larger parties in Canada: The Christian Heritage Party of Canada (0.19 %), the Marijuana Party (0.06%) or the mighty Progressive Conservative Party (0.1%). (Wiki)

Monetary union! The thought that Canada would sully it higher-valued looney with our poor dollar! Pure lunacy! I guess we'll have to stick to those countries we are already in monetary union with: the British Virgin Islands, East Timor, Ecuador, El Salvador, Marshall Islands, Federated States of Micronesia, Palau and Panama. The workings of a nefarious alliance, indeed!

 

[MystikWizard]

^^ sigh.

The point is that this is a very real proposal. It's been discussed on several major networks. To deny this is absurd at this point. This explains why Immigration has gotten out of hand and hasn't been addressed.

 

[The_Reaper]

I don't think this will happen, or if it does, Canada wouldn't join in.

It's the same reason Canada won't let Quebec separate, we're happy the way we are. The one thing that Canadians have used for generations to define themselves is a simple slogan:

"We're not Americans."

So, while I wouldn't put it past Bush's bosum buddy, Harper, the Canadian public wouldn't accept something like this...As I'm sure most American citizens wouldn't either.

Even an EU Style thing probably wouldn't fly, as most of the Canadians I know hate NAFTA with a passion...Or maybe it's just transferred from Mulroney (the PM who signed the deal), who knows.

 

[MystikWizard]

I don't think this will happen, or if it does, Canada wouldn't join in.

It's the same reason Canada won't let Quebec separate, we're happy the way we are. The one thing that Canadians have used for generations to define themselves is a simple slogan:

"We're not Americans."

So, while I wouldn't put it past Bush's bosum buddy, Harper, the Canadian public wouldn't accept something like this...As I'm sure most American citizens wouldn't either.

Even an EU Style thing probably wouldn't fly, as most of the Canadians I know hate NAFTA with a passion...Or maybe it's just transferred from Mulroney (the PM who signed the deal), who knows.

I'm inclined to agree with you. I think this project probably is not going to go through since all this got leaked out.

Noah Bennet's my favorite character, by the way.

 

[Legend500]

Come on! Lou "sky is falling kill the Mexicans" Dobbs, a guy making a joke on CNBC and a Fox News segment on the conspiracy theory using an article from the Worldnet Daily (Which recently exposed the conspiracy among soy producers to make kids gay:Evil Soy Conspiracy, and you think it's true?

I don't think this will happen, or if it does, Canada wouldn't join in.

So, as I said, partially because of the Canadians, not gonna happen, doesn't exist. The tooth fairy paying in Amero is not going to happen. So why talk about something that doesn't exist or ain't gonna happen?

To be on topic, I'd like to point out that the public knows all about PNAC, but that didn't really stop them from trying. Furthermore, and this counters The_Reaper's point as well, if you want proof that governmental actions do not coincide with public interests, do note that NAFTA still exists and they are considering ways of expanding it regardless of its unpopularity.

Precisely. NAFTA exists over the heads of the people, who are gullible and don't have an understanding of geopolitics or international trade. The sort of people who have believed (for decades) that a North American Union is on its way. Politicians are responsible for doing what is best for their citizes, even if they have to do it by pulling their citizens kicking and screaming into it.

Joe Citizen wants imput into NAFTA and what our government does? Stop falling for every conspiracy theory and show some common sense. Stop watching CNN, FOX, MSNBC and start watching BBC, Bloomberg or Deutche Welle. Stop reading Newsweek and the Weekly World News and start reading the Economist and the Christian Science Monitor.

 

[Glafna]

As a Canadian, and a pretty well informed one at that, let me tell you what "Canada will do."

BOTH our last and current PM were working with Bush and the Mexican President to get this into action.

In Montebello, Quebec, they were willing to send in police agitators(who were trying to agitate as Anarchists, in the middle of a group of senior citizens) to try to start a riot(and they succeeded), which turned an organized march made up of many different people, including high school students, senior citizens, anarchists, and communists.(when was the last protest in Canada where those 4 groups were going for the same goal?)

This has been in the works for a LONG time, and they won't stop(Some people have tied in the Illuminati(won't explain the group, google em) with it) until it succeeds, or they fail horribly.

The European Union, African Union, and the future Asian Union, along with the North American Union(from what I've been told) are basically the corner stones for a world wide government.

Also note that another name for it is the 'Security and Prosperity Partnership'. There's a pretty big group on facebook, which gets larger every day, full of people around the world who are trying to fight against this.

And here is the facebook group's sources of information.

REJECT THE NORTH AMERICA UNION (N.A.U.)

1. The agenda of the corporate/financial/military elite of North America is to unify the territories currently occupied by Canada, USA, and Mexico into one new continental block with a new border around the perimeter of North America under the aegis and control of a new supranational, unelected governing body.

2. This agenda is currently being implemented with the cooperation and duplicity of the federal governments and civil and military bureaucracy of the three nations;

3. The media and the corporate political parties of Canada currently sitting in Parliament are virtually silent or deny that the restructuring of Canada and North America as a whole is occurring;

4. The majority of Canadians are uninformed of this phenomenon, and have been given little or no opportunity to become informed about these pressing issues;

5.The position of Member of Parliament has already become almost irrelevant except to rubber-stamp the will of the Corporate/financial elite.

The objective of this group is to inform Canadians (and Americans and Mexicans) of the North American Union (NAU), which will integrate Canada, the United States, and Mexico into one continental, "security" bloc. Governed under one set of economic and military laws and a replaced common currency by the target date 2010. The Union will be enforced by a police state in order to stifle dissenting citizens. The US has already passed Patriot Acts 1 & 2, laws that not even Hitler and Stalin had the nerve to put to paper. Our "anti-terrorist" legislation is a mirror image of that.

*<<<GET INFORMED>>>*

Please note that in NO WAY is this an anti-American or anti-Mexican page!!! All of our nations are facing the same threat to our rights and freedoms as citizens and soveriegn economies. It is encouraged for both Mexicans and Americans to join this group as well in order to bring more perspective to the group.

"MY DREAM IS THAT THIS BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY WILL NEVER DIE"
-Pierre Elliot Trudeau, October 1984


<<<VIDEO INFORMATION>>>

Comprehensive overview of how the NAU is being created - very educational!
http://www.freedom.org/naugreen2/player.html

Pretext for the North American Union: Part 1 and 2
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2268341860482102257&q=Pretext+for+the+North+American+Union

Pretext For The North American Union: Part 3
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7025644754994004363

Pretext For The North American Union: Part 4
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-521101811626076431

Connie Fogal (Leader of the Canadian Action Party) Lectures on the NAU:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-1355300745194023737

The Dangers of the "North American Union"
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-5581854975245721437

The Amero - North American Currency
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hiPrsc9g98

The North American Union Part 1 by Robert Gaylon Ross Sr - VERY GOOD !!!
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v415494AQFETH3K?searchId=7054448528993408546&rank=7

The North American Union Part 2 by Robert Gaylon Ross Sr - VERY GOOD !!!
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v415419cwFAsYBh?searchId=7054448528993408546&rank=8

Propaganda and the CFR - Behind The Big News
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v519593wM7d3jsc?c=911truth2power

The Real Face of the European Union
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v577329JbE3Xgq4

Zeitgeist - Excellent, not exactly about the NAU, but other factors you need to be aware of.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=5547481422995115331

Alex Jone's ENDGAME - MUST SEE
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=7828479818173821931
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Good list of Articles from Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives (Bruce Campbell)
http://policyalternatives.ca/index....ce Campbell&do=list&call=B0E2A12E&pa=B0E2A12E

North American Union Coming to Your Canadian Neighbourhood by 2010
http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php/20070622085324414

Contradictions of Deep Integration, and a Note on Alternatives
http://canadianlabour.ca/index.php/economy_internationa/740

"Deep Integration": Timeline of the Progress Toward a North American Union
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=4216

Whose country is this anyway?
Why have you not heard of the SPP
http://www.nowar-paix.ca/SPP/SPP-Whose-country-is-this-14-mai-07.pdf

Great Article on the NAU
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/070326

The Security and Prosperity Partnership
Why we need to take a closer look at continental integration
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=6099

U.S. Bush administration allies want Canada along with francophone Quebec "erased" by 2010
http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2007/03/09/01397.html

The Corbett Report: Minutes from the 23 Feb 2007 Ministerial Meeting of the SPP
http://www.corbettreport.com/articles/20070709_spp_meeting_minutes.htm

<<<WEBSITES>>>

http://www.canadians.org

http://canadianactionparty.ca/home.html

http://www.projectcensored.org/

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/

http://www.lindamcquaig.com/Columns.cfm

http://www.stoplying.ca/

http://globalresearch.ca/

http://www.knowledgedrivenrevolution.com/

http://www.integratethis.ca

http://www.commonfrontiers.ca

http://www.policyalternatives.ca

http://www.vivelecanada.ca

http://www.stopspp.ca

And here are the links about one case(unfortunately the only one I know of) of the police instigation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWbgnyUCC7M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St1-WTc1kow&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4F1PVFF_0A&feature=PlayList&p=FC50D8AA169F6993&index=14
(please note that this was August 20, and there are only first hand accounts of what happened after the protest became a riot, as no video's are available, probably due to the mass amount of tear gas and dust used)

 

[Glafna]

Also let me add that although I don't dismiss that a one-government world would be a good thing, I don't think mankind is anywhere near ready for that.

 

[MystikWizard]

Well, this certainly explains why we are over there in the Middle East.

1) Oil- as the World's oil supply is rapidly being depleted

2) To military push democracy on these countries and overthrow the current leadership ... to prepare for them to eventually enter the Asian Union down the road

3) Protect Israel


But that's okay. Because we'll still have some posters (not naming names) who back certain candidates ... that will still insist that we can't leave Iraq because "we need to finish our mission and we don't know what will happen if we withdraw". And "we don't know how long it will take".

Well, that's true. But these countries are 3rd World Countries, who are of absolutely no threat to us, whatsoever. We have the most powerful military in the World. Our country is safe.

Now, why don't we elaborate on the real reasons we are over there?

 

[VICTORIADON]

If a North American Union is coming, under the Bush administration and a conservative administration in Canada with PM Harper....

I will be moving to Australia sooner than expected.

 

[swerve]

WOW Glafna...

EXTREMELY good post...

Even in OUR little industry -- we're seeing the U.S. Federal Gov't allowing the Mexican Motor Carriers access -- AGAINST the WILL of the citizens and MULTIPLE Resolutions AND LAW (unless it is vetoed as threatened) passed by Congress...

http://www.landlinemag.com/Special_Reports/2007/Oct07/101807_DOT_Inspection.htm

Having said that...

As a Human Being -- I'm not sure how I feel about OTHER Human Beings having to live in in squaller JUST BECAUSE they were born on the wrong side of a border...

I guess I'm kind of mentally confused and financially opposed on this issue...

GREAT POST Glafna!!!

 

[Legend500]

The Illuminati? Wow....the problem with disproving a conspiracy theory is that it's not rational. So here's the basic reasoning:

1. There's a super-secret group (the Illuminati, the Security and Prosperity Partnership (Oooh! Security and Prosperity! They must be evil!) or the Stonecutters.

2. They're doing something a normal voter doesn't understand.

3. It involves cooperation with other countries.

4. So, it must be an attempt to take over the world!

But what's most depressing is that there's a shocking lack of knowledge of how the U.S. Government works. To merge the United States into a North American Union would obviously require a whole host of Constitutional Amendments. In fact, so many would be necessary that the only possible way to accomplish it would be through a Constitutional Convention, an event that hasn't occurred in over 200 years and that would require the support of 34 state legislatures to even be possible. So, even if George Bush or any other U.S. President were so inclined to create a North American superstate, he would be powerless to do so unless he were able to rally 2/3 of America's state legislatures to his side.

That's not gonna happen. There'd have to be an aweful lot of Illuminati...

Again. Give me 1 reputable journal of foreign affairs, one code of US, Mexican or Canadian law, or half a analysis how this could possibly be passed through any of the nations involved and we'll talk.

 

[Legend500]

On to the line-by-line...

BOTH our last and current PM were working with Bush and the Mexican President to get this into action.

Proof (in the form of a treaty or signing statement forming the NAU)?

In Montebello, Quebec, they were willing to send in police agitators(who were trying to agitate as Anarchists, in the middle of a group of senior citizens) to try to start a riot(and they succeeded), which turned an organized march made up of many different people, including high school students, senior citizens, anarchists, and communists.(when was the last protest in Canada where those 4 groups were going for the same goal?)

So there were regular anarchists and government anarchists?
Also, prove it (through a legal finding of involvement by the Quebec legal community).

The European Union, African Union, and the future Asian Union, along with the North American Union(from what I've been told) are basically the corner stones for a world wide government.

EU: Lost a constitutional convention, government is in disarray and has no legal authority supreme to many of the countries involved (as any country can leave if it wants to).

AfU: No authority over African states, cannot even find 5000 soldiers to follow its orders, much less the millions such an organization would need to take over the continent

AsU: Never heard of it. Is it East Asia (uniting Taiwan, China, the Koreas and Japan, who all hate each other, somehow), Central Asia (India and Pakistan, which nearly fought a nuclear war less than a decade ago), Oceana (Austrailia and every country around it, all of which dislike them) or the Middle East (Iran and the Kurds, or Israel and Syria uniting in peace and friendship)? Ignorant.

'Security and Prosperity Partnership'.

A simple advisory board which mentions nothing anywhere close to its evil intent anywhere in its documentation. (Ahh, I forgot, a lack of information only means that the evil secret world order is hiding the information from us: so lack of proof somehow becomes proof)

1. The agenda of the corporate/financial/military elite of North America is to unify the territories currently occupied by Canada, USA, and Mexico into one new continental block with a new border around the perimeter of North America under the aegis and control of a new supranational, unelected governing body.

Proof?

2. This agenda is currently being implemented with the cooperation and duplicity of the federal governments and civil and military bureaucracy of the three nations;

Proof?

3. The media and the corporate political parties of Canada currently sitting in Parliament are virtually silent or deny that the restructuring of Canada and North America as a whole is occurring;

So lack of proof becomes proof? I didn't know we had so many fans of Intelligent Design or the Loch Ness Monster on the board. I'm also shocked that Canadian Bureaucracy can keep such a secret...must be the ailen mind-erasers.

5.The position of Member of Parliament has already become almost irrelevant except to rubber-stamp the will of the Corporate/financial elite.

Proof?

The objective of this group is to inform Canadians (and Americans and Mexicans) of the North American Union (NAU), which will integrate Canada, the United States, and Mexico into one continental, "security" bloc. Governed under one set of economic and military laws and a replaced common currency by the target date 2010. The Union will be enforced by a police state in order to stifle dissenting citizens. The US has already passed Patriot Acts 1 & 2, laws that not even Hitler and Stalin had the nerve to put to paper. Our "anti-terrorist" legislation is a mirror image of that.

Proof?...and Tell the Jews, gays and anti-stalinists to watch out! the Patriot Act is so much worse than the Holocaust.

If they're gonna take America over...they better hurry...only 25 Months until the NAU!

Comprehensive overview of how the NAU is being created - very educational!
http://www.freedom.org/naugreen2/player.html

This uses Robert Pastor's book as proof of the concept. Too bad Pastor has specifically stated that his work does not address a NAU and that such a thing does not exist. Even if he supports such an idea, he's one professor that wrote a book!

Appearantly, work has started on the Trans-Texas Corridor. Better tell that to the contractors, as the start-date is now well after 2011.

Pretext for the North American Union: Part 1-4

Some old boiler-plate stuff about how NAFTA and CAFTA are part of the new World Order, all of it unsourced. Jeez...these guys would FREAK if the knew what UNESCO does...

Connie Fogal (Leader of the Canadian Action Party) Lectures on the NAU:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-1355300745194023737

Already dealt with her in a previous post....how's that search for a party with more than 0.05% of the vote going, Midnight77?

The Dangers of the "North American Union"
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-5581854975245721437

the Conservative Caucus? The same people who wanted to deport people with AIDS years ago? Sure are desperate for sources..

The Amero - North American Currency
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hiPrsc9g98

Again, previous post. I noticed that we've already been taken over by Federated States of Micronesian troops imposing the New World Order. (FSM are a member of a currency union we are already a part of...boy has that led to terror and the loss of our freedom!

The North American Union Part 1&2 by Robert Gaylon Ross Sr
Propaganda and the CFR - Behind The Big News
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v519593wM7d3jsc?c=911truth2power

Nothing other than repackaged video of people talking about NAFTA. OOOHHHH! Free trade leads to our destruction. Still waiting for proof or an explanation of how.

Zeitgeist - Excellent, not exactly about the NAU, but other factors you need to be aware of.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=5547481422995115331
Alex Jone's ENDGAME - MUST SEE
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=7828479818173821931

Looks like 2 people trying to sell their movies. Made in the USA, in packaging from Mexico, on Cameras built in China and designed in Japan, with lenses from Germany. These people believe in globalization, and for that I thank them.

As an aside, wouldn't it be funny if all this NAU stuff was a set-up to get more people to watch their movie? Naaaah. Not possible.

<<<WRITTEN INFORMATION>>>

Still waiting on that one shred of proof from any of these...no proof, btw, is not proof.

And here are the links about one case(unfortunately the only one I know of) of the police instigation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWbgnyUCC7M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St1-WTc1kow&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4F1PVFF_0A&feature=PlayList&p=FC50D8AA169F6993&index=14
(please note that this was August 20, and there are only first hand accounts of what happened after the protest became a riot, as no video's are available, probably due to the mass amount of tear gas and dust used)

Wow...once again, the only proof comes from youtube and the lack of proof is excused as being proof that something occured. Sheesh. I wonder if people here take Wikipedia as the word of God, for all the faith they put on unverifyable non-accredited non-academic sources. Again...1 shred of legal evidence...

Even in OUR little industry -- we're seeing the U.S. Federal Gov't allowing the Mexican Motor Carriers access -- AGAINST the WILL of the citizens and MULTIPLE Resolutions AND LAW (unless it is vetoed as threatened) passed by
Congress...

The citizens don't know what to do in this case, because they're gullible to BS like the NAU, so their opinion is not very useful. Show me 1 resolution and 1 law this violates.

Sheesh, can we get back to looking at porn now?