Illegal Aliens Are Costing the US $338.3 Billion Dollars A Year

[cityboy-stl]

While I'm not supportive of foreign nationals illegally trespassing our borders, a chain letter where most of the links do not work is not very convincing.

Besides, something tells me that you had more to do with this email than just receiving it in your inbox: http://www.rense.com/general81/dtli.htm

 

[MercuryJones]

I believe in the right of every nation to control immigration and its birders, but your post stinks of BS.

Did your email include the amount of revenue paid in taxes by illegal immigrants? (Both income tax by those with fake SS identification, and sales tax?)

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

Were you also aware that illegal immigrants are getting preferentially hired to help clean up the spill because they won't complain when they get sick?

 

[Piquechampion]

I do agree that the US has to expell every single illegal alien (or any foreigner for that matter), but only if rest of the World boycotts American products.

To be fair and square.

 

[BostonPirate]

the other topics linked to are.....

# FAIR provides more information on false allegations made by MSNBC's Rachael Maddow
# New Research Reveals Large Increase in Arizona's Illegal Immigration Costs
# FAIR sets the record straight on false allegations made by MSNBC's Rachael Maddow
# Reid, Schumer and Menendez Offer Amnesty to Illegal Aliens
# FAIR Applauds Gov. Brewer for Signing S.B. 1070

so lets have no doubt that the same republicans that think gays have no civil rights or the right to have sex and marry, those who equate you fucking your BF with fucking a cow or a goat, have constructed this site.

it is partisan and it has a clear agenda.

it is not truth, it is propaganda.

try again.

 

[BostonPirate]

It's interesting

People reveal themselves in so many ways

Wanting to believe in such an obvouisly flawed site, implies something about the OP and so why don't we, instead of closing down the thread treat this as his opinion peice, which we are all allowed.

So I will ask....

Frosty.. why do you dislike illegal immigrants. Some say the Papers please supporters are racist. Some say they are patriots.

can you clarify your intent and personal opinion so that any negative perceptions can be dispelled?

 

[Beachguyj]

If we didn't have them working on our farms and other jobs a pint of strawberries would cost $15 and a car wash would cost $50. In the end it would cost us much more to not have them. Plus much of the costs are the US problem of not having good schooling or medical care in place and letting the rich crooks get richer, and finding loop holes so they can pay almost no tax.

 

[3nipples]

You may be right. I had no bad intentions when creating this thread. I got an email that I found imformative and decided to post it here and share it and then people accuse me of being racist and trolling for trying to do something good. People can take it or leave it with the email but the email does have its sources. I just clicked on them just now and some of the articles have been taken down so I don't know how old this email is.

So you didn't check any of it first and just brainlessly passed it on. Way to go

 

[Frosty]

To all the people who accused me of being racist, trolling, or taking part in writing the email or anything else all I have to say is Fuck You.

This is all I wrote in my first post that was me: "Just got this in an email and thought I'd pass it along. It's really shocking" That one line only. The rest was copied and pasted from the email.

I opened up my email, read something I found interesting and decided to share it. It was up to the readers of this thread to take it or leave it. Go ahead and criticize the email but fuck you to those who are talking smack about me just because I shared something I thought people would find interesting. Even if the information is false, I didn't know and it was up to the reader to discuss it.

 

[BostonPirate]

this has been going on for about 18 months, not you frosty, the false emails.

thats where death panels came from, among other scary ideas. they are sent and alot of people, like you never check the facts, they just read and go ... oh thats awfull i have to pass this on.

then the lie perpetrates itself through very scared innocent people who didnt do their homework.

so now you know.... whomever sent you that, and the conservative thinkers behind it sought to trick you into believing something and then they tried to trick you into convincing others as well.

crafty crafty

its the internet. Doubt everything and verify.

 

[Beachguyj]

To all the people who accused me of being racist, trolling, or taking part in writing the email or anything else all I have to say is
I opened up my email, read something I found interesting and decided to share it.

How did you get on a Neo-Nazi e-mail list?

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

To all the people who accused me of being racist, trolling, or taking part in writing the email or anything else all I have to say is Fuck You.

This is all I wrote in my first post that was me: "Just got this in an email and thought I'd pass it along. It's really shocking" That one line only. The rest was copied and pasted from the email.

I opened up my email, read something I found interesting and decided to share it. It was up to the readers of this thread to take it or leave it. Go ahead and criticize the email but fuck you to those who are talking smack about me just because I shared something I thought people would find interesting. Even if the information is false, I didn't know and it was up to the reader to discuss it.

Dude... people like you are the problem with America right now. You're too easy to manipulate. The country is falling in on itself because the ultra-rich are living tax free, taking away everything from everyone else and convincing weak-minded people like you that it's the fault of the poor and the undocumented workers.

You get a big laundry list of lies and post it here.

Instead of doing a 45-second check up on the lies you got sent, you just post them here and when called on your sloppy, laziness, you have the fucking gaul to tell us it's OUR responsibility to check YOUR facts?

Check your own fucking facts. Don't post shit if you don't know what you're talking about and while you're at it, do the country a favor and stay away from a voting booth until you check a few facts, too, ok?

Jesus, there isn't a fucking hole deep enough.

 

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[MercuryJones]

I didn't write the email but I don't think it's racist at all. The key word is "Illegal".

A distinction without a difference. In the US when we speak of illegal aliens we all know we are talking about primarily Latino people.

And though I fully support the right and responsibility of every nation to police its borders and immigration, this "email" is crap just intended to stir the pot, not to provoke thoughtful consideration.

Any balance sheet that presents only half the data, as this does, is useless. It has nothing to say about revenue generated by illegals, which in and of itself is not a justification for their presence here, but is relevant data to the topic.

This is just BS.

 

[White Eagle]

There is a lot of people in this nation that will believe anything. Crap like this need to be marked as junk mail or spam. Your email should have a link for that.

 

[Pangelboy]

however i do believe that if your parents are not legal citizens their children shouldnt be legal citizens as well.

It sounds as if you're changing the rules mid-game.

When immigrants from Europe arrived on the shores of America it was fine and dandy, but now that illegal immigrants are invading (!!!) our borders, the law is somehow unfair.

I know there is the issue of legality, but it was a lot easier to become a legal citizen of America when European immigration was high.

 

[MercuryJones]

however i do believe that if your parents are not legal citizens their children shouldnt be legal citizens as well.

As in you think the Constitution should be amended?

 

[BostonPirate]

it will never be considered. if you are born in america then You re an american.

We are a nation of Immigrants...

will we change the engraved plague on the statue of liberty?

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,

With conquering limbs astride from land to land;

Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand

A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame

Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name

Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand

Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command

The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

"Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she

With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

not a whole lot of leeway there. If we are not carefull we as a nation will lose our way with this stuff.

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

however i do believe that if your parents are not legal citizens their children shouldnt be legal citizens as well.

two wrongs do not make a right.

So... how many generations before they ARE American?

Because the only "real" Americans then will be Native Americans. And we don't treat THEM very well, either.

 

[JB3]

I remember a simpler time when Americans were bigger than this.



It's just illegal aliens, dude.





This smells a little racist to be perfectly honest.



/end sarcasm.

When your default position is that those that oppose illegal immigration are racist, why should I take anything you post seriously?