Illegals stealing food and water meant for Fire Victims

[NickCole]

SantaCBear,

Did you miss this or are you being shy about answering:

Suppose they'd stolen the food and water because they were hungry and thirsty, and ate and drank it themselves. Would your opinion be different?

You've implied your response to the story was because you supposedly "knew" there was more to it than that they were hungry and needed to eat. Go ahead, answer the question.

 

[LatinoSTAR]

Illegals Need To Eat too! They Are Probably more Hungry Than The Fire Victims Anyways, At Least I Would Be If I Snuck From Mexico To Southern California, Give Em A Break!

 

[iman]

^ So you obviously have no respect for the law or this country? It doesn't matter what happened then or by whom, so that fallacious ploy won't work. The natives also rightly killed to protect themselves and their culture (even though they lost); is that fine for Americans to do?

I congratulate you for being so "law abiding", I'm sure you refrained from committing sodomy or other "unnatural acts" until the laws were changed. I hope that you didn't also believe the stories you were told about the "evils of masturbation".

Laws that are unjust and/or unenforced are meaningless. To call illegal immigrants (formerly known as Mexicans) "criminals" because they have accepted the invitation of Americans to have a decent job, home, education for their children and get medical treatment, is ludicrous. It would be more correct to call them "invited guests" rather than "criminals".

 

[SantaCBear]

Illegals Need To Eat too! They Are Probably more Hungry Than The Fire Victims Anyways, At Least I Would Be If I Snuck From Mexico To Southern California, Give Em A Break!

You need to keep up, kid

Authorities say evacuees at Qualcomm Stadium told police they noticed a group of people loading supplies onto a truck and driving away. San Diego Police Spokeswoman Monica Munoz says witnesses saw the group return three times to pick up supplies.

Munoz: What they were doing was taking those supplies and selling them so what we did was detain those individuals and spoke to them and they told us they were undocumented and what exactly they were doing so we turned them over to the Border Patrol.

http://www.kpbs.org/news/local;id=9979?loc=interstitialskip

 

[kallipolis]

I wonder why the hue and cry is afoot for those criminals who are illegal Mexican immigrants, and not for those American criminals whose incentives draw so many Mexicans into the United States, illegally?

Could those American employers who act in such a criminal fashion by employing illegal immigrants, be above United States law?

Or are these American business orientated criminals justifying their criminal behaviour, through keeping wages and product prices low?

Such results do have a beneficial knock-on effect for the United States economy, by keeping inflation under control.

Could this by-product of illegal Mexican immigration be an incentive for the United States authorities not to prosecute the American employer, despite the same authorities demonising the employee of the American business enterprise that employs illegal Mexican immigrants?

I appreciate that convenient sight does enable some people to focus on that which satisfies their prejudice, to ignore the other side of the coin.

 

[SantaCBear]

I wonder why the hue and cry is afoot for those criminals who are illegal Mexican immigrants, and not for those American criminals whose incentives draw so many Mexicans into the United States, illegally?

Could those American employers who act in such a criminal fashion by employing illegal immigrants, be above United States law?

Or are these American business orientated criminals justifying their criminal behaviour, through keeping wages and product prices low?

Such results do have a beneficial knock-on effect for the United States economy, by keeping inflation under control.

Could this by-product of illegal Mexican immigration be an incentive for the United States authorities not to prosecute the American employer, despite the same authorities demonising the employee of the American business enterprise that employs illegal Mexican immigrants?

I appreciate that convenient sight does enable some people to focus on that which satisfies their prejudice, to ignore the other side of the coin.

There are laws to prevent those law breakers too... I wish the gov't would enforce them.

 

[kallipolis]

IC07

It would be pointless if my point did not make the point, that I am always pointing out the necessary point scoring points, despite your willingness to remind us that your obsessiveness with parsing so often interrupts the free flow of a point, worth pointing out.

 

[iman]

None of this is applicable.

^Yes it is if we define criminality as law breaking.

They are criminals because they broke the law; that isn't ludicrous. Those Americans who sent the so-called invitations aren't without guilt too. If you don't like the law, because you feel it is 'unjust', then change the law. I had no idea you were such a Libertarian now; found out how much you like Applebee's food and Kulindahr's ilk?

^There are degrees of guilt. The inability of poor Mexicans to legally come here in any great numbers is a significantly mitigating circumstance compared to the motives of their employers. I support a guest worker program with a path to citizenship.

I'm not really a libertarian or an Applebees fan, but Kuli's got his big unlicensed gun on me under the table.

 

[iman]

yes........

 

[letme]

Well it could be worse for the illegals if they went to Albertson's and ate 10 jelly beans !!

A man was charged with petty theft after being caught on a surveillance camera taking jelly beans out of a bin and eating them before he got to the cash register.

The 34-year-old Fort Walton Beach man was buying groceries at Albertson’s when he stopped at a bin of candy and put an unspecified number of jelly beans in his mouth, according to an Okaloosa County Sheriff’s Office report.

The deputy, who was working an off-duty detail, confronted the suspect after he had paid for the rest of his groceries and asked him if the candy was good. “Yes,” the suspect replied, according to the report.

The deputy told a manager that the suspect had taken about 10 of the “raspberry-flavored” candies. The man denied taking more than two. He added that he’d been shopping at Albertson’s for 30 years and that he was just trying the candy to see if he wanted to buy it. The deputy “advised him that Albertson’s did not have free samples of candy and he should have known that if he had been shopping at Albertson’s for 30 years.”

The man didn't buy any of the candy.

The store manager on duty told the deputy that he wanted charges brought against the suspect, who was also issued a trespass warning.

The jelly beans were priced at $6.99 a pound. The deputy estimated that the 10 jellybeans would have had a value of about $2.

A store manager contacted Thursday confirmed that the store has a “zero tolerance” policy against shoplifting.

 

[RandomAccess]

Ya know what I find revolting? It's the fact that 6 Mexicans stealing some food and water outside QualCom (however the hell it's spelled) is "noteworthy." This is a blatant attempt to use a trivial local story as anecdotal evidence to inflame passions all across the country and even around the world.

The "crime" here isn't the stealing, and it isn't the "illegal immigrant" status. . . it's the hatred/bigotry that makes it an issue that's a crime.

 

[RandomAccess]

Odd, I'll look up the laws on that one.

You know what I mean. Don't turn literal on us all of a sudden.

 

[letme]

Why did this become a National story ? Simple , The Media could not find anything bad to report like looting,fights,mass hysteria ,things like happened in New Orleans.
They had NO bad news to talk about,until this ONE incident.People were civil,and the media was getting bored.

 

[PreTTy PeTe]

Arresting poor people -just because they're "illegals"- who "steal" food and water that's being offered free during a natural disaster.

My God. What have Americans become?

Les Misérables

 

[PreTTy PeTe]

and don't forget the okies
on their struggle to survive

every should read The Grapes of Wrath
stienbeck was a genuis

 

[LatinoSTAR]

You need to keep up, kid

Authorities say evacuees at Qualcomm Stadium told police they noticed a group of people loading supplies onto a truck and driving away. San Diego Police Spokeswoman Monica Munoz says witnesses saw the group return three times to pick up supplies.

Munoz: What they were doing was taking those supplies and selling them so what we did was detain those individuals and spoke to them and they told us they were undocumented and what exactly they were doing so we turned them over to the Border Patrol.

http://www.kpbs.org/news/local;id=9979?loc=interstitialskip

All I did was read the headline, and posted my comment, really didnt care to read what other people posted, cuz i knew someone was gonna post an anti-mexican comment! and even tho im Puerto Rican, I Gots To Give It Up Fo' My fellow latinos

 

[SantaCBear]

^ I'm sure (hopefully) you dont "give it up" for folks who steal truck loads of stuff to sell ?

 

[StlKj]

Some people allegedly stole supplies from a place set up to help victims of the fire.
These people were allegedly already breaking the law, so they were arrested and will face consequences.

That's what I see when I read this story. The circumstances surrounding the alleged criminals' lives might be heartbreaking, I don't know. We don't know enough about them to know if they're kind and down on their luck, or if they are predatory opportunists trying to make a buck off others' misery and generosity.

We know they apparently broke a law, and did so while breaking another law. Anything else is just speculation.

How we react on here to this type of story says a lot more about us than it does the story itself.

 

[SantaCBear]

^^ After all is said and done, they were not arrested for the stealing... They were just sent back to Mexico and are probably back in the USA