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I'm gay. I finally said it

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I've mostly thought of myself as str8, but a little curiuous. Over time I thought of myself as more bi.

But as of late I find myself more and more turned on guys. And maybe this isn't the best way to figure things out, but I get way harder on gay porn then I do str8 porn.

I also get harder faster. And when I get off it feels good when I think of a woman, but better with the thought of a guy.

If I'm being totally honest I don't even think the sensation of getting off on a woman is even worth it since it feels so much getting off on a guy.

I'd say I'm gay with an attraction to women.
 
baby steps man. sometimes we just have to make sense of it and accept it on our own terms. its a first step so good for you. :)
 
Man, don't get tripped up in the whole label me this, label me that thing. Why does one have to necessarily be gay, bi, straight, asexual, etc.? Enjoy your sexuality, and understand that it can be as fluid as your taste in say food. One day your will have an appetite for steak, the other a salad. You may not like something, and find later that it is an acquired taste. I'm mostly attracted to guys, but I find that women can be attractive too. This whole having to label yourself thing gets boxy and claustrophobic in my opinion. Enjoy whatever sex you like with whomever you like without having to deal with cramming it into a label.
 
a lot of us do that, we come out as bi because we've accustomed ourselves to liking women, but for me the whole women thing just faded away, like i grew out of it
 
^You can't like guys without having to constrict it to a label? That's just what those terms are - labels. You even gave the specific definition for each, which limits one sexual identity to just those definitions. Why do we have to say we are any of those? Can't we just admit we like sex despite who the sex is with? It's more liberating when you don't have to say, because by saying you have already put boundaries around it. Maybe this is just my view. My ideas on sexuality and sexual labels are very liberal.
 
a lot of us do that, we come out as bi because we've accustomed ourselves to liking women, but for me the whole women thing just faded away, like i grew out of it


Most gay people seem to come out as bisexual first, because of the pressure on them to get married and have a typical family life. They cling to the idea of "Well, I can technically like girls, too." as a means to hold on to this.


I believe that there ARE genuinely bisexual people out there, and i've spoken to some of them myself, but I just think the "bisexual people are actually just gay" stereotype started because gay people feel like they have to lie about their sexuality at first.
 
The world is not just black and white, there are all the shades of grey in between too.

You say you like girls some, and boys a whole lot more. Well that is just wonderful because then you can have your cake and eat it as well.

So although I am sure that your admitting that you are gay provides a great sense of emotional relief/release.

Dont label yourself, go out and be you and have fun doing it. Have a bit of girl today and maybe a bit of boy tomorrow. See how it goes, and also how much you enjoy each. That way you will find what you like best.

Best of Luck Bud
 
>>>Why do we have to say we are any of those? Can't we just admit we like sex despite who the sex is with? It's more liberating when you don't have to say, because by saying you have already put boundaries around it. Maybe this is just my view.

Well, let me put it this way.

Let's say you saw me getting out of my car one day, and you said "Hey - nice car." And say I responded "Why do you have to call it a car? Why does everyone have to put a label on my mode of transportation? Can't I own a mode of transportation without people having to put a fucking LABEL on it?"

You'd probably think I was a bit off my rocker.

Because "car" is what people call that thing. You know, the mode of transportation with four wheels, a motor, and the enclosed compartment you sit in. Now I might insist that I don't own a car. I might insist I own a motorcycle with double wheels and an enclosed seating compartment. That's my right. But everybody else out there is going to call it a "car". Because that's what everybody else calls that thing.

When it comes to my sexuality, I like guys. That means I'm gay. That's the word that people use to describe "guys who dig guys". Now, I might fight that label. I might insist that "you can't put a label on me", and that I'm open to be whatever I want to be. I can insist I'm a straight guy who just fucks other guys. My right to insist on it. But the fact remains - I dig guys, and the word that most people use for such people is "gay". And so "gay" is the word that most people are going to use to define my sexuality. And I'm totally fine with that word. It doesn't preclude me from "being a man", or doing masculine things, or finding women attractive. It just means I dig guys. And that's accurate.

It's been my experience that people who fight the "gay" tag, and actively campaign against the idea of "labeling" tend to do so for one main reason - they specifically don't want the "gay" tag on them. There's something about having the word "gay" applied to them that scares them. It might be that they're scared of what the term might mean. It might be that they're worried of what other people would think if their name gets associated with the word "gay". But even if that's the case, it's not the label they're worried about (I mean - they DO like guys) so much as any potential or perceived baggage that goes along with it. And so they do their utmost to distance themselves from the word as much as possible. But nearly always only in this instance, and no other. They don't object to be called "male", for instance. I've never heard anybody go on a rant about "labeling" when somebody called somebody "male" or "a man". Nope - just with gay.

I'm from Colorado. That, by definition, makes me a Coloradoan. Now, there's some modest baggage attached to that. Some might think I love skiing, or love John Denver music, or am a die-hard Denver Bronco fan. None of those are true, in fact, but it doesn't make me not a Coloradoan. And I don't fight the label. If someone asks me if I'm a Coloradoan, I don't kick and scream and insist that they can't label me like that. I just say "Yeah, I am." Because I am. Whether the "baggage" applies or not.

Lex
 
'I'm gay' .. that brings back memories. They are the first words I uttered when I came onto this site. I think it's probably a release for you to finally say it, even if it is on a website.
When you're walking around in town, do you find yourself subconsciously looking at the guys more?

I never really thought about it. I do think look at guys, but I honestly can't say, which I look at more
 
I've mostly thought of myself as str8, but a little curiuous. Over time I thought of myself as more bi.

But as of late I find myself more and more turned on guys. And maybe this isn't the best way to figure things out, but I get way harder on gay porn then I do str8 porn.

I also get harder faster. And when I get off it feels good when I think of a woman, but better with the thought of a guy.

If I'm being totally honest I don't even think the sensation of getting off on a woman is even worth it since it feels so much getting off on a guy.

I'd say I'm gay with an attraction to women.

I am going to congratulate you because you seem relieved and happy. Labels work for me because they translate into societal and political reality. LBGT is a big tent, but overall still a small minority. I'm happy when others label themselves something and join our tent. And this is coming from a latecomer with two children. Welcome to the tent.
 
I am going to congratulate you because you seem relieved and happy. Labels work for me because they translate into societal and political reality. LBGT is a big tent, but overall still a small minority. I'm happy when others label themselves something and join our tent. And this is coming from a latecomer with two children. Welcome to the tent.

I don't mind labels and I don't mind them more right now. It helps a little bit. I mean I still have an attaraction to women, but I don't know its just that it seems as of late it takes me a little longer to erect thinking about a woman, but with a guy its right away.

I don't know if that means much, but while I'm still attarcted to girls it just seems the attartion to guys is a lot stronger.
 
Then run with that. Don't worry about hanging out your shingle just yet. Just enjoy your guys-turning-you-on self for awhile and see what happens. :)

Lex
 
>>>Why do we have to say we are any of those? Can't we just admit we like sex despite who the sex is with? It's more liberating when you don't have to say, because by saying you have already put boundaries around it. Maybe this is just my view.

Well, let me put it this way.

Let's say you saw me getting out of my car one day, and you said "Hey - nice car." And say I responded "Why do you have to call it a car? Why does everyone have to put a label on my mode of transportation? Can't I own a mode of transportation without people having to put a fucking LABEL on it?"

You'd probably think I was a bit off my rocker.

Because "car" is what people call that thing. You know, the mode of transportation with four wheels, a motor, and the enclosed compartment you sit in. Now I might insist that I don't own a car. I might insist I own a motorcycle with double wheels and an enclosed seating compartment. That's my right. But everybody else out there is going to call it a "car". Because that's what everybody else calls that thing.

When it comes to my sexuality, I like guys. That means I'm gay. That's the word that people use to describe "guys who dig guys". Now, I might fight that label. I might insist that "you can't put a label on me", and that I'm open to be whatever I want to be. I can insist I'm a straight guy who just fucks other guys. My right to insist on it. But the fact remains - I dig guys, and the word that most people use for such people is "gay". And so "gay" is the word that most people are going to use to define my sexuality. And I'm totally fine with that word. It doesn't preclude me from "being a man", or doing masculine things, or finding women attractive. It just means I dig guys. And that's accurate.

It's been my experience that people who fight the "gay" tag, and actively campaign against the idea of "labeling" tend to do so for one main reason - they specifically don't want the "gay" tag on them. There's something about having the word "gay" applied to them that scares them. It might be that they're scared of what the term might mean. It might be that they're worried of what other people would think if their name gets associated with the word "gay". But even if that's the case, it's not the label they're worried about (I mean - they DO like guys) so much as any potential or perceived baggage that goes along with it. And so they do their utmost to distance themselves from the word as much as possible. But nearly always only in this instance, and no other. They don't object to be called "male", for instance. I've never heard anybody go on a rant about "labeling" when somebody called somebody "male" or "a man". Nope - just with gay.

I'm from Colorado. That, by definition, makes me a Coloradoan. Now, there's some modest baggage attached to that. Some might think I love skiing, or love John Denver music, or am a die-hard Denver Bronco fan. None of those are true, in fact, but it doesn't make me not a Coloradoan. And I don't fight the label. If someone asks me if I'm a Coloradoan, I don't kick and scream and insist that they can't label me like that. I just say "Yeah, I am." Because I am. Whether the "baggage" applies or not.

Lex

This says it 100% perfectly. :=D:..|
 
>>>Why do we have to say we are any of those? Can't we just admit we like sex despite who the sex is with? It's more liberating when you don't have to say, because by saying you have already put boundaries around it. Maybe this is just my view.

Well, let me put it this way.

Let's say you saw me getting out of my car one day, and you said "Hey - nice car." And say I responded "Why do you have to call it a car? Why does everyone have to put a label on my mode of transportation? Can't I own a mode of transportation without people having to put a fucking LABEL on it?"

You'd probably think I was a bit off my rocker.

Because "car" is what people call that thing. You know, the mode of transportation with four wheels, a motor, and the enclosed compartment you sit in. Now I might insist that I don't own a car. I might insist I own a motorcycle with double wheels and an enclosed seating compartment. That's my right. But everybody else out there is going to call it a "car". Because that's what everybody else calls that thing.

When it comes to my sexuality, I like guys. That means I'm gay. That's the word that people use to describe "guys who dig guys". Now, I might fight that label. I might insist that "you can't put a label on me", and that I'm open to be whatever I want to be. I can insist I'm a straight guy who just fucks other guys. My right to insist on it. But the fact remains - I dig guys, and the word that most people use for such people is "gay". And so "gay" is the word that most people are going to use to define my sexuality. And I'm totally fine with that word. It doesn't preclude me from "being a man", or doing masculine things, or finding women attractive. It just means I dig guys. And that's accurate.

It's been my experience that people who fight the "gay" tag, and actively campaign against the idea of "labeling" tend to do so for one main reason - they specifically don't want the "gay" tag on them. There's something about having the word "gay" applied to them that scares them. It might be that they're scared of what the term might mean. It might be that they're worried of what other people would think if their name gets associated with the word "gay". But even if that's the case, it's not the label they're worried about (I mean - they DO like guys) so much as any potential or perceived baggage that goes along with it. And so they do their utmost to distance themselves from the word as much as possible. But nearly always only in this instance, and no other. They don't object to be called "male", for instance. I've never heard anybody go on a rant about "labeling" when somebody called somebody "male" or "a man". Nope - just with gay.

I'm from Colorado. That, by definition, makes me a Coloradoan. Now, there's some modest baggage attached to that. Some might think I love skiing, or love John Denver music, or am a die-hard Denver Bronco fan. None of those are true, in fact, but it doesn't make me not a Coloradoan. And I don't fight the label. If someone asks me if I'm a Coloradoan, I don't kick and scream and insist that they can't label me like that. I just say "Yeah, I am." Because I am. Whether the "baggage" applies or not.

Lex

Allow me to clarify. Of course, the point of your argument is a given. I understand that the question can not be entirely dismissed by refusing to answer it with a label. I also understand that labels are necessary for identification and communication. Labeling will always be a symptom of human organization. That does not mean it is good for us to do so, since labels tend to focus on isolating groups by characteristics and behaviors. But, as I said, it will always be a symptom of human social structure. I'm not naive enough to believe that people could ever do away with labels. In fact, sometimes labels can be a powerful, motivating cause for unity among groups. There are labels we can't resist or refuse, not even by going out of our way to avoid them. But some labels only matter as much as the individual accepts that it does, despite pressures from society to be identified. Most never realize this.

While I appreciate it, the metaphor of the car doesn't help much here because the term "car" is not an issue in society as complex as sexual labeling due to its impact on human development and interaction. No one gives a fig what you call your car (though they will think you are nuts). However, I understand your point. Yes, you could reject it, and be forced to identify anyway, because the fact is you are gay because you are attracted to other guys, and society will see that and label accordingly. But as an individual, the choice is yours to accept that label and its definition, just as you would accept whatever you feel like calling your car despite what others call it. But as I wrote, most will never realize this, and feel safer identifying anyway. It gives one a sense of belonging to something.

I just feel that if you do anyway, you don't have to accept the restrictions and feel the need to have to label yourself anything. Maybe by breaking down labels by not absolutely accepting them, we can break down what gives us no cause except to group ourselves off from one another or isolate ourselves.

I suppose I'm idealistic to believe that it doesn't have to matter. But that's just the label I happen to wear.
 
Most gay people seem to come out as bisexual first, because of the pressure on them to get married and have a typical family life. They cling to the idea of "Well, I can technically like girls, too." as a means to hold on to this.


I believe that there ARE genuinely bisexual people out there, and i've spoken to some of them myself, but I just think the "bisexual people are actually just gay" stereotype started because gay people feel like they have to lie about their sexuality at first.

I really disagree with that...when I first relazied I was bisexual it made me feel like a freak...like why can't I just be gay or just straight. I thought a "real" man couldn't be bisexual and I should never get married because of that.
This was back when I was 13 though haha.....silly child mind.
Now I am trying to be more on the gay side since messing with vaginas can result in unwanted children.
 
Congrats on taking your first step man! I went through the "bi" stage when I first came out just because I thought it would make the coming out process easier (and it kind of did because all my friends were like.... uh you're gay, not bi)
 
Congrats on taking your first step man! I went through the "bi" stage when I first came out just because I thought it would make the coming out process easier (and it kind of did because all my friends were like.... uh you're gay, not bi)

Well this new so I wanna take it slow and not rush into things. That's why my starting point is just watching vids.

I still have an attatraction to women, but it takes me so much longer to hard over them. I still get hard, but not as quick. Where as guys I get harder much faster and stay harder a lot longer as well.
 
congratulations.
some words are hard to swallow but necessary .
 
I went through many stages. For a long time I thought I was bi-sexual until I finally realized that I just gay.
 
I knew this kid named Todd in real life who called himself Bisexual, when I met him I introduced myself as a gay man and I told him confidently that it was okay if he was gay. He looked at me like I was Jesus or something.

What "bisexual" guys really want is another gay man who have come to terms with it themselves, to approach them and help them deal. Poor kid had zero self-confidence and played the victim, he really need strength that only the gay community can provide, but he was in a group home type place that was run by straights mostly.

And yeah I suppose there are real bisexual men, but because this happens so frequently with gay men, I have trouble buying it.
 
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