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iMac or powerful laptop?

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So I am thinking about buying a new... laptop or iMac to edit videos/Short Films... but I don't know if I should spend money on iMac or powerful laptop? I know iMac is great for editing films (and costs £1200+) but for the price I would get great laptop. (I can't have PC cuz 1st don't have space, 2nd Im in flat share and so moving from time to time... too much stuff) so... if you were into film/video editing would you chose iMac or for the same money great laptop?

Any help? :D
 
You make them sound like two different things....


P.S. An iMac is a desktop, you're talking about a MacBook.
 
Should be in the tech forum, but anyway I'll bite.

If you're considering hardcore video editing, no laptop can compare to a good desktop machine, even for the same price.
 
i wouldnt buy a desktop computer unless you have a really good reason. laptops are so much more practical in about just every way.

of course, hardcore video editing is a really good reason...
 
I have a Macbook--one year old--and I love it. The new iMovie program is fan double o triple tastic...that means great.
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x-cess said:
i wouldnt buy a desktop computer unless you have a really good reason. laptops are so much more practical in about just every way.

of course, hardcore video editing is a really good reason...
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Laptops are good for working and browsing the internet. That's about all I can think of.

Any hardcore processing, video editing (a form of processing), or gaming are best done on desktops which will *vastly* outperform laptops of a similar price, especially if you buy the parts and put it together yourself (the desktop that is). Desktop computers are also much more easily upgradeable, and you have the option of running a RAID array without external hard drives.
 
Just go to the shops is my advice. I recently bought some new computers and if you are like me the information on the internet will be too confusing for you. It is really helpful to talk to someone there and be able to play around with it before you buy

(Btw I bought two iMacs and I love them :D)

Some things to think about before you go:
- what do you have now? will you need to buy a new mouse, keyboard or anything like that? will it be difficult for you to get used to any new things?
- what will you use it for? you've already thought about that but it is good to be sure because they will ask you in the store.
- how much are you willing to spend?


if you are sure an iMac would be capable of doing what you want it to do I think it would be good for you. It really doesn't take up a lot of space which you said is important. There is just a screen, mouse, keyboard and one wire.

Moving an iMac to a new home wouldn't be too difficult but obviously moving a laptop would be much easier. Plus you can take laptops to school/university/work or where ever else you might need it.
 
Lukeee said:
Just go to the shops is my advice. I recently bought some new computers and if you are like me the information on the internet will be too confusing for you. It is really helpful to talk to someone there and be able to play around with it before you buy

(Btw I bought two iMacs and I love them :D)

Some things to think about before you go:
- what do you have now? will you need to buy a new mouse, keyboard or anything like that? will it be difficult for you to get used to any new things?
- what will you use it for? you've already thought about that but it is good to be sure because they will ask you in the store.
- how much are you willing to spend?


if you are sure an iMac would be capable of doing what you want it to do I think it would be good for you. It really doesn't take up a lot of space which you said is important. There is just a screen, mouse, keyboard and one wire.

Moving an iMac to a new home wouldn't be too difficult but obviously moving a laptop would be much easier. Plus you can take laptops to school/university/work or where ever else you might need it.
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I need something to make films on

I already got laptop (windows xp) which is very good for eveyday use but bit toooooo slow to make videos/shortfilms

i dont have much money and im not working atm so ££ importand to me now :(

I know iMc is great for videos almost everybody uses it to make videos (eg on YouTUbe) but was just wondering if I would buy laptop only for videos.... nothing else... hmmmm....
 
montimon said:
I know iMc is great for videos almost everybody uses it to make videos (eg on YouTUbe) but was just wondering if I would buy laptop only for videos.... nothing else... hmmmm....
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I agree with those who have said a desktop is better for video editing. And desktops are cheaper for the hardware you get.


montimon said:
i dont have much money and im not working atm so ££ importand to me now :(
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If money is tight, you should consider Linux.

As with anything else in life, the more money you have, the easier you can make things for yourself. But it is possible to do a good job even with limited resources. Professional studios like Steven Spielberg's "Industrial Light and Magic" use Linux exclusively for editing commercial movie videos.

Try to find a cheap desktop with 2 GB to 4 GB RAM and a dual-core processor, if possible. Used is fine. You would be surprised at how many such machines are sitting around on shelves with the owners trying to find some way of disposing of them. Ask around. (My little office has 5 or 6 such machines we would give to anyone, if we could find someone willing to take them). You may only need to buy a nice monitor and perhaps a keyboard, if you are aggressive enough at asking and looking.

Install Linux (I like Ubuntu or Mint but the choices are endless). Then install Avidemux or Cinelerra or Kino or Kdenlive or LiVES (or all of the above or any of several alternative Linux video editors - they're all free and legal). See the discussion here. You will probably find it best to stick to one video editor, once you decide what you like. There is a learning curve to a new OS and to a sophisticated program like professional video editing software. But it is not that difficult.

Macs are great. But it is possible to do professional work without an expensive Mac. You just need to keep an open mind and be willing to learn.

And we are always available in the Tech Forum here for your questions.
 
montimon said:
but I don't know if I should spend money on iMac or powerful laptop? I know iMac is great for editing films (and costs £1200+) but for the price I would get great laptop.
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They both use virtually the exact same internal components.

Literally, the exact same components. Imagine the Intel processors running off the assembly line; one box goes to a factory for Dell, another goes to a factory for Mac.

The real difference between a Mac and a PC is the operating system. Virtually everything else is just cosmetic.

If you’d like to pay $1200 for a MacBook that has the same processing power as a $500 Dell PC, than go ahead. But before you buy into the fable that Macs are somehow “just better” at editing video or graphic design, consider that Pixar (the 3D animation studio co-founded by Steve Jobs) uses PCs running on Windows and Linux. ;)

RE: Desktop vs Laptop
If you don’t need a portable computer, than I’d suggest a desktop. You will get more bang for your buck, and they last a hell of a lot longer. The #1 computer killer is heat, and laptops just don’t have the capacity to dissipate it fast enough. When you are talking about video editing, you will want a good video card (perhaps even one that you can upgrade yourself when the time comes), and something that won’t overheat after long periods of use. For that, a desktop is your best bet.
 
What kind of short videos we talking about? the 2-10 minute kind you put on tube sites, or artsy 30-90 minute videos?

If its the former, i can do that with my old tower that has a P4 with 512 Ram. Running a fairly minimum OS (Crunchbang Linux).

If youre processing larger videos, you could probably do it by buying a 300-400$ tower, i saw some nice thin ones from Acer, Atom processor, 2-4gigs of Ram. Again, using a minimal OS or dont download a bunch of crap onto windows.

There aint much diference between Apples and PCs anymore, they both use intel as their processor. The question yo gotta ask yourself is, what operating system? Also keep in mind, if your uploading to tube sites, codecs from linux or apple might not always be compatible.
 
God, Mac and PC trolls everywhere. First off, Mac and PC's are not the same. Even though PC's control a wide range of the market (mostly just cheap office or city computers), they also use too many different components (RAM, monitors, hard drive) from different sources so they have problems working together. Because Apple has very few sources for components, they can pick and choose what they want in order for the OS and the whole systems work better. For instance the battery lasts a long time.

Second, Mac's are not as closed as people think. You can download Win7 if you want whether if be official, beta, or torrent.

Third, Mac's hold their value. You can sell a 2-year old $2000 mac for about half that depending on it's condition.

Fourth, the Mac OS is very easy to use. Too bad its GUI isn't as pretty as Windows Aero. I would definitely choose that over the way the Snow Leopard GUI, the only problem is that is is a HOG to your processor and graphics card. Not only that but using the trackpads for the Macbook Pros or EXTREMELY easy to use to the point of rivaling a mouse. Plus, the chiclet style keyboard with the backlight (macbook pros only) is very user friendly and useful.

Fifth, Macs offer very good deals. Check out the Apple website for Education, Business, and Government deals. If you don't belong to one of those classes then you can ask a friend to come in with you. That's what I did when I got my 15 in. Macbook pro. I think they also give you a free year of Apple Care (which is super amazing to have) but I'm not sure.

Sixth, Macs do have problems with Flash though. Sometimes, (at least on Safari) the YouTube flashplayer plugin fails and other YT windows will do the same thing ,but all you have to do is reload the page or in worse cases, close and the reopen the application.

Seventh, Macs do crash. My cousin and I were looking at porn (he's bi, I'm kind of bi but mostly gay) of course on those cheesy straight porn sites and XVideos. So once, the computer screen told me to restart my computer. I didn't lose any data though so that was good.

Eighth, Ummmm, what else is there? If you like to play games, then you can always partition your hard drive with Windows to play PC only games but if your a hardcore gamer, get a gaming PC.

Ninth, it may seem that as soon as you buy something from Apple, they come out with something new, but that is the same case for all tech. Apple just makes a bigger deal about their press conferences. And who wouldn't, even the original conferences are funny.

and Tenth, the applications. iMovie is a very good application that blows Windows Movie Maker out of the water. Go check out an Apple store (or even some of the new Microsoft Stores). Compare which Application you like better and tell us which one is the winner.
 
^^ Again, that depends on what kind of movies he plans on editing, and where they'll be published. Even if Imovie blows windows moviemaker out of the water, it wont be much good if tube sites turn down his videos because of incompatible codecs.

Considering the OP is on a tight budget, it makes more sense to get the most powerful hardware at the lowest price, and that's not apple.

I think, the best compromise, is PC hardware, with a dualboot win7/Linux combo.

And just to clear up any notions of bias, i could install linux on mac or PC, it doesn't make much diference to me. (only the pricetag).
 
Well as I said in my first post... I cant have PC cuz it takes too much space and wileress etc.. and I move a lot and atm I live in small room... So PC of any kinds NO...

atm I make 5-10mins video films but I want to start making longer ones... so... yeah...

Or is there anybody working at Apple store willing to give discount LOOOOL

Thats bit embargoing being poor lol :P
 
You could always just buy a $500 Dell with virtually the same hardware as a $1200 MacBook, and then install a fully legal copy of Leopard on it -- if you love the OS so much. I know people who’ve done this. There are no issues.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8oVU5AjqhU[/ame]
 
what about if I would buy good laptop ONLY for making short films nothing else? :]

Sorry Im moaning like old lady but I read am not good with the computer technology...
 
This guy seems bent on buying a laptop.

Get a netbook. 200-300$. More than enough power to record JO sessions. (From experience).

You can install any OS on any type of computer these days, and even in instances where you cant, there are things like Wine, and virtual machine, that will bridge the gaps.
 
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