In case you think Thompson "looks pretty good" as a candidate:

[RandomAccess]

Here's something every gay man should know about this ""potential" candidate:

Fred Thompson urges marriage amendment
published Friday, August 17, 2007
The GOP's Fred Thompson may have yet to officially announce his presidential candidacy, but that didn't stop him from saying that a constitutional marriage amendment could "cure" the disparity between states' laws on same-sex marriage.
In an Iowa interview with CNN's John King, Thompson intimated that rather than leaving marriage up to individual states, he would use the bully pulpit as president to push for a federal marriage amendment -- an initiative that has dismal prospects at best as long as at least one of the chambers of Congress stays in Democratic hands.

King: "Would you, a President Fred Thompson, actively push a presidential amendment banning gay marriage?"

Thompson: "Yes, yes, I think that with regard to gay marriage you have a full-faith-and-credit issue. I don't think one state ought to be able to pass a law requiring gay marriage, or allowing gay marriage, and have another state be required to follow along, under full faith and credit. There's some exceptions and exemptions for that.

"Hasn't happened yet, but I think a federal court very well likely will go in that direction, and a constitutional amendment would cure that."(The Advocate)

Source

 

[1st love ron]

That brings up the age old question of why would a gay person vote for any Republican.

 

[RandomAccess]

That brings up the age old question of why would a gay person vote for any Republican.

(Not that I disagree with you, but. . .)
Was that the sound of a nice, fresh (albeit old) can of worms being opened?

 

[smirnoff-ice]

call him homer thompson ^^

 

[Críostóir]

Clinton signed the Defense Of Marriage Act to prevent just such a full faith and credit problem. Thompson didn't even do his homework, in addition to being a flaming asshole.

Don't watch Law and Order episodes that have him on them. Turn it off when he comes on. Write to the network showing them to say you're doing it.

 

[PER4MER]

That brings up the age old question of why would a gay person vote for any Republican.

Just a guess...

 

[Txgoodoldboy]

In case you think Thompson "looks pretty good" as a candidate

I saw Thompson on the news this morning, he looked like he was half dead.

 

[Homoaffectional]

Thompson is a third-rate Reagan wanna be. (Which isn't to say Reagan was any good). A good omen for Thompson's miniscule chances of success at winning even the GOP nod, let alone the general election is that another Thompson who was in the running, Tommy Thompson, recently dropped his bid for the nod.

Thompson will flounder. The only real threat to the Dems chances of the WH, despite this last-minute faux "excitement" desperate conservatives are trying to generate around Thompson, remains, as always, Giuliani. If the nominee is anyone but him, the GOP doesn't even have a shot in hell to win, which isn't to say that Giuliani will necessarily do well. Just about every Dem with the exception of Hillary will beat Giuliani easily. And Hillary would beat just about any GOP nomine besides Ghouliani, and could very well beat Rudy, as well, if things are handled, well, and if enough "moderates" and "independents" don't get fooled by the "compassionate conservative" spin -- and it only took nearly 7 years of Bush, but it looks like they're not being fooled this time.

Like the saying goes, you can fool all of the people some of the time (and even that is questionable), and you can fool some of the people all the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

 

[Homoaffectional]

^ Trudy won't make it off the launchpad, he's burdened with criminality, moral perversions of the adultering kind, and turpitudinal behavior bordering on degeneracy. Normal, decent people won't let him kiss their babies or be near their family pets. Yes, that excites the kooky base, the nutsquad, if you will, but they comprise a minority of the voting populace. Trudy will be skinned and smoked, he'll be exposed as the cowardly incompetent that he is.

Your lips to God's ears on that part...

That is why I hope he gets the nomination -- he'll lead the GOP to a great political defeat, and end the charade of a reprobational liar in no time flat.

But on that part, I couldn't disagree with you more if I tried, Alfie. We're definitely on the same side, but we clearly differ on how to get that side to the win. All the stuff that you feel is such a worry will hurt Giuliani most in the primary, not in the general election. Everything that you say is such a liability to Giuliani is wasted if it's followed by "I hope Giuliani gets the nod". I'm afraid, Alfie, that you and so many others are overestimating the media's willingness to actually hold Republicans to the same standards it holds Democrats to and underestimating the willingness of Americans to elect any jackal to the office if they feel that he will "protect" them from the big, bad "terrorists", squatting in caves with donkeys and homemade dirty bombs that probably won't even go off right and if so, will only blow up in sad "terrorist's" faces.

It's not really Giuliani, I fear, but the sinking feeling I get every time everyone says they "hope" Giuliani gets the nomination. Has every single person who said this actually looked at the head to head polls between him and Hillary in critically swing states, especially those that usually trend Democratic?

Don't think that the sentiments of the country are necessarily the same as yours, Alfie. I'm sure you didn't want Bush to win, and thought that by 2004, there were plenty of petards for him and Cheney to be hoisted on. Look what happened there...

I urge everyone who wants Republicans to lose and keeps hoping that Giuliani to look at the head-to-head polls between him and Hillary in various states, and after that to reconsider their desire for him to be the nominee. I seriously fear that the opposition is sitting ducks like they were when the Shit Boat Bitterans Against Truth launched their ads. If the kinds of things that you feel are really the "stick-in-the-fork-in-him; he's done" type liabilities that should have buried Ghouliani by now, shouldn't Bush & Cheney both have been tried, convicted and sentenced to the Hague by now? If so, why are they still in the White House, causing as much trouble as they can during the last 15 months of their lame duck "p"Residency?

 

[iman]

Giuliani is up beat, optimistic, personable, unequivocal and autocratic, all good qualities for a Republican candidate. I think he is the strongest Republican. It really depends on the rightwing base: Will they vote for him in the primaries? The general?

The base are religioneofacists and and may put aside their "values" to prevent a Dem from being elected. I am not sure Edwards or Obama could beat him, Hillary may have the best shot.

 

[Homoaffectional]

Giuliani -- bring him down before the primaries are over!!!

It really depends on the rightwing base: Will they vote for him in the primaries? The general?

Close, but no cigar. It depends on the right wing base, but only for the primaries. It depends on the "independents", "moderates", and even still some Democrats (sadly, 6% of Dems still support Bush) for Giuliani, and I have no confidence in the people of this country nor the media to do the right thing. Bush may have been a nightmare, but some will see Giuliani as totally "different" from Bush, and I'm afraid that the vampiric hysteria of terrorism may still rise a few more times... just enough to push Ghouliani on top in a general election over the only candidate he has a shot in hell to beat -- Hillary. The "indies" and "moderates" will more than make up for those rabid right wing tools that may stay home in the general election.

 

[Homoaffectional]

He's a walking time bomb and a total flake. He looks like a nut, he talks like a nut, he acts like a nut -- he's a nut, and he will be seen as such. Look, everything about that crazy person is a lie, and lies have a way of being exposed. This isn't 2000, or even 2004, it's 2007 and people are a tad more savvy, a bit more skilled at seeing through lies.

Let's hope all that happens, but I'd much sooner have it happen in the primaries than in the general. 2007 isn't so far away from 2001 that frightened, xenophobic Americans still won't put a "strong national defense" fascist in power so they can be protected from the Ay-rabs and the "Islamofascists". So, for that reason, for the nomination, I say -- anyone but Ghouliani.

 

[smelter]

The fact that the so called 'Christian' conservatives are willing to suspend their 'deeply-held' moral convictions to vote for a guy with Giuliani's 'sins' pretty much tells the story:
Politics trump morality .... render to Caesar the things that belong to both him and God ..... my! how convenient ..... how very, very convenient!

 

[RandomAccess]

I don't know what this has to do with anything, but, here's one of the latest hot clips at YouTube (regarding Thompson)!

And, it's a jab by (would you believe?) FAUXNews!!! Giuliani must be in-tight with Murdoch right now!

 

[RandomAccess]

He's not even a candidate yet, and he's already flip-flopping!!!

From Independant Gay Forum

Thompson Makes Three!
August 19, 2007
An official "clarification" over at NationalReview.com makes clear that former Senator, and likely Republican presidential candidate, Fred Thompson opposes a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.

Of the four leading Republican presidential contenders, three—Rudy Giuliani, John McCain, and the all-but-declared Thompson—oppose what only three years ago was the Republicans' most prized cultural wedged issue. Recall that in 2004 all but five Senate Republicans voted for the amendment. Now it's amendment-supporting (and exquisitely inconsistent) Mitt Romney who's the odd one out.

This is a sea-change. And yet another sign that George W. Bush's sharp turn right is proving ephemeral.

Thompson does favor an amendment leaving gay marriage to the states. On the merits, that's a debatable measure. But it's a far cry from a national ban. Just ask James Dobson and Gary Bauer, who must be gnashing their teeth right now.

Compare this to how this very thread opened!

Fred Thompson urges marriage amendment
published Friday, August 17, 2007
The GOP's Fred Thompson may have yet to officially announce his presidential candidacy, but that didn't stop him from saying that a constitutional marriage amendment could "cure" the disparity between states' laws on same-sex marriage.
In an Iowa interview with CNN's John King, Thompson intimated that rather than leaving marriage up to individual states, he would use the bully pulpit as president to push for a federal marriage amendment -- an initiative that has dismal prospects at best as long as at least one of the chambers of Congress stays in Democratic hands.

King: "Would you, a President Fred Thompson, actively push a presidential amendment banning gay marriage?"

Thompson: "Yes, yes, I think that with regard to gay marriage you have a full-faith-and-credit issue. I don't think one state ought to be able to pass a law requiring gay marriage, or allowing gay marriage, and have another state be required to follow along, under full faith and credit. There's some exceptions and exemptions for that.

"Hasn't happened yet, but I think a federal court very well likely will go in that direction, and a constitutional amendment would cure that."(The Advocate)

And the Republicans said Bill Clinton was a "flip-flopper!" They just can't make up their minds!

 

[Kurn]

^
Is that really a 'flip-flop'?
Is there a more sensitive terminology for that? Campaign fraud. Is that the phrase one might want?

 

[RandomAccess]

^
Is that really a 'flip-flop'?
Is there a more sensitive terminology for that? Campaign fraud. Is that the phrase one might want?

I was trying to be "nice." The Republicans are always in a hurry to holler "FLIP-FLOP" against Dems. . . just wanted to point out that, again, it's the other way around.

 

[Homoaffectional]

Trudy will be skinned and smoked, he'll be exposed as the cowardly incompetent that he is. That is why I hope he gets the nomination -- he'll lead the GOP to a great political defeat, and end the charade of a reprobational liar in no time flat.

I hope for the country's sake, you and hundreds of thousands of progressives who don't even get the slightest inkling of how deer-in-the-headlights their original wishes for Ghouliani getting the nod were, have finally come to your senses.

Let's hope that even if all of you haven't, he doesn't get the nomination despite these chronic, repetitive bouts of naivete on the part of so many who simply should know better.

It would be funny if it was Thompson, though. Hillary would wipe the floor with grandpa -- "Geriatrics gone wild".

Recent polling out of Ohio. It's true this is Rasmussen w/assistance from Faux, but unfortunately a lot of Americans don't understand that Rasmussen is a GOP-run operation:


Ohio 2008 Presidential Election
Ohio: Giuliani 45% Clinton 43%

Tuesday, October 23, 2007

The race for Ohio's 20 Electoral College votes hasn’t changed much in the last couple of months. In fact, the latest Rasmussen Reports telephone polls shows that voting in Ohio next year might be just as close as it was in 2004.
Rudy Giuliani and John McCain both “lead” Clinton in Ohio by a statistically insignificant two percentage point margin. Fred Thompson is tied with the Democratic frontrunner while Clinton leads Mitt Romney by eight points.
Against each of the four Republican hopefuls, Clinton’s support from Ohio voters is in the mid-forties, ranging from a low of 42% against McCain to a high of 46% against Romney.
Overall, these numbers show very little change from the last Rasmussen Reports Ohio survey in August.
Impressions of the candidates have shifted a bit. Clinton’s favorable ratings are down a couple of points while the GOP candidates have gained a couple of points.
Forty-eight percent (48%) of Ohio voters have a favorable opinion of Clinton while 50% have a negative view. Those figures include 26% with a Very Favorable opinion and 36% with a Very Unfavorable opinion.
On the Republican side, McCain is viewed favorably by 54%. Favorables for both Giuliani and Thompson total 53% while Romney earns positive reviews from 43%. Just 38% have an unfavorable view of Thompson while negative ratings for the other GOP candidates are in the low-to-mid forties.
Opinions of the Republican candidates are not nearly as established as they are for Clinton. Twenty percent (20%) have a Very Favorable opinion of Giuliani while 15% voice that firm opinion for each of the other three GOP candidates in the poll.
Nineteen percent (19%) have a Very Unfavorable opinion of Giuliani. Seventeen percent (17%) say the same about Romney, 13% about McCain, and 11% have a Very Unfavorable opinion of Thompson.
The President’s numbers have dipped further in Ohio. Just 36% of Buckeye State voters say President Bush is doing a good or an excellent job, down three points since August.The President narrowly won Ohio in Election 2004, but Iraq and statewide GOP scandals led Democrats to victory in the state’s 2006 elections.
Democratic Governor Ted Strickland is currently seen as doing a good or excellent job by 49% of voters. Just 15% say he is doing a poor job while 33% offer a more neutral rating and grade the Governor’s performance as “fair.”
The survey also found that 59% of Ohio voters want the troops to come home from Iraq within a year. That’s slightly below the national average and includes 23% who want the troops out of Iraq immediately. Thirty-seven percent (37%) of Ohio voters say the troops should remain in Iraq until their mission is complete. Eighty-five percent (85%) of Democrats want the troops to come home within a year while 59% of Republicans say they should stay until the mission is complete.
Sixty percent (60%) of Ohio voters want Dennis Kucinich to drop his Presidential bid and run for re-election to Congress. Just 16% want him to continue seeking the Democratic Presidential nomination. According to Ohio law, Kucinich can only be on the ballot for one office so he has a decision to make.
Forty-two percent (42%) of Ohio voters say they’d be more likely to vote for candidate who “proposed raising taxes and using the money to provide health insurance for everyone.” Forty-three percent (43%) say they’d be less likely to vote for such a candidate. Sixty-four percent (64%) of Democrats would be more likely to vote for a candidate with that proposal while 60% would be less likely to do so.
Just 32% would willingly pay higher utility bills to support the creation of an alternative energy industry in Ohio. Just 31% would willing pay higher utlity bills to cut pollution in the state.


Link.

 

[Just_Believe18]

Thompson will disappear faster than the hype that got him in there. He's so dead, dry, and boring. Nobody likes him. Not even Republicans.

 

[MystikWizard]

Thompson is not a serious Presidential Candidate as far as I'm concerned. He's already being called by many in the media as "lazy" ... and he is.

I would pay him no mind.

The only Republican I would vote for and am planning on voting for is Ron Paul. The man is huge on the Internet. Check him out on You Tube.