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In love with an older guy

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Well, as my profile might say, i'm 19 years old. Today i went to a gay bar in amsterdam (every other wednesday its student night) and i met some guys there. One of them seemed quite handsome and i talked a bit with him. I could see he was quite a bit older than me, cause he had some gray hairs trough his beard (just some stubble).

Anyway, he seemed like a nice guy and i really got into him, and at one point he said: "you're hot". Well, he said "je bent een lekker ding" which literally translates to "you are a tasty thing" but it comes down to "you're hot". He gave me his business card so i could contact him and later that evening i gave him my phone number.

But now i saw his facebook profile, and it said he's 42. I'm wondering; has anyone here done something like that? date someone who's 20 years older? does it work? what sould i do?
 
If you are attracted to him, go for it. Date him. Think of the sexual experience he has had. You could learn from him. If it does not work out, stop dating him then. No harms done.
 
If you both are compatible, it will more than likely work. Be aware that you may not have the same frame of reference for things like pop culture and some people may have issues with the age gap.

If you want more in-depth advice, just send me a PM as I'm on my way out.

Good luck!
 
When I was in college, I was attracted to men in their 40's and enjoyed their company as they had done things, visited places I had only dream about. Two were married so knew that it was probably a dead end so was prepared. I wasn't a hustler but did enjoy being wine and dined in a fashion most college students can't afford. When I turned 39, took on a lover of age 20 (who later died of HIV) and now been in a relationship for 11 years with someone 22 years my junior who has money so no exploitation (we only "fight" at restaurants as he always wants to pay it all!)

The worst thing about growing old in the gay world is the rampant ageism out there in the gay community. Straight folks fall in love with peers (even in nursing homes). I have tried to meet men in my middle age but they all seem interested in chasing the twinks. Warning, there are some out there who will want you to buy them cars, motorcyles, etc. only to vanish soon afterwards. I have learned those hard lessons as well.
 
I had a boyfriend in my early twenties that was 24 years older than me and he was smokin'-hot! He had an enormous schwanzstucker (11 inches) and was well-versed in employing it! Lol! If he hadn't been more than halfway in the closet I would probably have been with him longer than the year we were together, but I don't like closets!
 
I'm attracted to older guys too (10-20 years my senior), though at the same time due to my inexperience, I'm intimidated by them haha.

Either way, if I was in your position I would see where it leads. You're obviously attracted to him, I think you should really think about what it is that's holding you back, just make sure you're being honest with yourself. Once you've tapped into what issues you have with it (both subconsciously and consciously), you can address them and weigh up whether you want to become more invested in a relationship with him.

Good luck! (and all the best!)
 
Thanks for the replies guys!

Once you've tapped into what issues you have with it (both subconsciously and consciously), you can address them and weigh up whether you want to become more invested in a relationship with him.

I'm not sure i entirely get this part... How do i adress my issues? Because the issue i HAVE is not that i find it strange to be with an older man, but that a lot of my friends and family will think i've gone nuts (cliche, i know). And i can not use that right now.

To be honest, i dont blame them. It IS pretty uncommon to date someone with an age gap of 20 years. And it IS true that sometimes, in these situations there's an unfair balance (as in either the younger guy is simply there for the money or the older guy simply wants a regular fuck). So i can imagine that people will find it strange. And i dont see a future here either. When i grow old with someone, i'd want him to go together with me. Not see him grow old and die first, and then me. That would be horrible.

Well idk. He's got a hot younger brother who's about the same type, and my age. I seriously tought about trying to go after him, but that'd be crushing to this guy. Not gonna do that.

:help:
 
To be honest, i dont blame them. It IS pretty uncommon to date someone with an age gap of 20 years. And it IS true that sometimes, in these situations there's an unfair balance (as in either the younger guy is simply there for the money or the older guy simply wants a regular fuck). So i can imagine that people will find it strange. And i dont see a future here either. When i grow old with someone, i'd want him to go together with me. Not see him grow old and die first, and then me. That would be horrible.

That's what I was talking about :-) sometimes people have issues with something and they're not even aware of them. Though, you seem to know what's holding you back which should make it SLIGHTLY easier to make a decision. Cliche's such as these, are only cliche's because it's a common way to feel.

When I think about being with an older guy, I think about how much I would enjoy their company, their companionship, their experience, closeness and intimacy. The age gap does tend to pop into my mind, and how people around me would perceive it, but there's always going to be people who accept you, and people who judge you. No matter what you do.

The whole 'growing old together' thing, is one I don't have an any solution for. I, myself, sometimes feel like I should wait till I'm older to try to find someone, so that there wont be an age gap at all, but I don't want to spend time missing out...

I don't know, I don't think I'm in any position to give advice on this, as I'm struggling with similar thoughts myself. :confused:
 
The question you've asked and the scenario you presented aren't the same thing.

There are lots of guys who date outside their age group- even with age gaps of 20 or more years. Being attracted to someone doesn't have much to do with age. George Clooney is 50- and given the chance, most 19 year olds would jump at the chance to sleep with him.

Being in a relationship with someone who is at very different place in their life is a lot tougher, though. Finding things in common, being at very different places financially and professionally and dealing with the way society views such relationships makes it a lot harder to be in a relationship.

But the scenario that you've described is something different. It was a bar encounter between someone who is probably very experienced and a guy who is new to the scene. If you find him attractive, then give him a call and find out a bit more about him. But it's very premature to think in terms of a relationship, mostly because you don't know anything about this guy, his history or his motives.
 
@panopticonpeter,

I know that its probably not going to last, i never had that illusion. But i never had a boyfriend. I want my first one to be rememberable. Not 20 years older than me. Or is that too naieve?
 
Dude, he's old enough to be your dad. I mean, enough said in my opinion....
 
I know that its probably not going to last, i never had that illusion. But i never had a boyfriend. I want my first one to be rememberable. Not 20 years older than me. Or is that too naieve?

Well, at this point in the game, you probably need gay friends more than you need a boyfriend.

Just because some guy talks to you in a bar, expresses an interest and gives you his number doesn't mean much of anything. If you give him a call, talk to him or maybe meet him for coffee, you might find he's a creepy old pervert. Or you might find he's a nice guy who introduces you to new things (non-sexual) and new people.

Either way, you won't find out until you talk to him away from the bar.
 
Don't over-think sex, it takes the fun out of it. Come to think of it, don't over-think relationships. What are you, a lesbian?
 
@panopticonpeter,

I know that its probably not going to last, i never had that illusion. But i never had a boyfriend. I want my first one to be rememberable. Not 20 years older than me. Or is that too naieve?

I have the advantage of being closer to 42 than 19, and as senility has not set in prematurely I can remember being 19, which makes a comparison possible.

The first thing I notice is you don't seem to want a quick fling or a brief sexual affair. Even if you can't read the future, you at least want the possibility of a relationship to be within reach. You don't want to start out knowing for certain that it is just a short-term experience.

KaraBulut is right to say that it is too early to tell if he is even looking for the same thing. This is much less trouble to think about if you learn that he only wanted to ask you out, take you home, and then see someone else next weekend. But it is much too soon to assume that either.

If you spend a bit of time with him, these things will become much clearer, and you don't have to get further ahead that you would like to until those questions are answered.

So what could a relationship be like? You seem realistic about being in different places in your life. At 19 I had not yet settled the question of my sexual orientation, but that was very close, so let's assume I had that figured out. I had not finished my education and was not sure of my career. I lived with my parents. I had friends but no boyfriend obviously. I was not interested in "playing the field." I wanted to find someone I could connect with sexually but also someone I could love and build a life with. Some men are happy to sleep around for amusement until Mr. Right comes along, but I actually don't like people enough to get naked with them unless I was already in love. So, sometimes frustrated or lonely, but I preferred to be single to hooking up.

Anyway, at 38, I have found Mr. Right, and been together with him for 13 years, through mostly good times, usually excellent times. We've gone from struggling for every penny, saving while we shared an apartment to owning our own home and establishing careers, we've travelled together, got a dog, dealt with extended family, basically made the start of a nice life together.

A few things I have noticed: my life and our life is completely different than 12 years ago. But at least I feel like the same person. I knew who I was then and I didn't feel like I had to figure myself out before I could begin that journey. In that respect it makes no difference if I was 19 or 38, or probably 42 either.

But I also really enjoyed making that journey together with my guy. He is only a couple of years older, so we explored this time in our lives together, bought our first home together, got our first dog together, learned how to please each other and enjoy our sex life together.

It would be different with someone who may have already accomplished some of those things. Not necessarily worse. With a difference of 20 years, his experience could give you some advantages and make it easier to figure out some parts of your life. Some practical questions that a young man has to face when he establishes his life, as I did, are already answered. Instead of having to face these questions together, he has forged ahead and cleared a path, and made it easier for you.

This can free you to study, to think, to read, to follow a unique career path of your own, to do other things that also contribute to the relationship, things that he may never have had time to do when he was younger and which would be difficult for him to start now without you. It could be a very nice life.

Two things to consider:
First is the age difference itself:
If you have a relationship of 12 years, you will be 31 and he will be 54. When I was 31, I was living with my guy in our apartment and we had almost saved enough money to buy a house together. When I'm 54, I will be one year away from being able to retire, if I choose to accept early retirement with a reduced pension.

Second is the place you are at in your lives.
I hope he is further ahead than you are in many aspects of his life. If it seems very easy for your lives to fit together, I would ask "why?" What has he been doing for the last 20 years? Did his life get stuck when he was 19?

And then the most important thing:
When I met my guy, I had a million questions. And I didn't have to answer any of them to know. He was the right one. I could feel it. I could think it through too, and it all made sense. But I could anticipate that it could work almost instinctually. As they say in French: l'amour à ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point.
 
@panopticonpeter,

I know that its probably not going to last, i never had that illusion. But i never had a boyfriend. I want my first one to be rememberable. Not 20 years older than me. Or is that too naieve?

If that's how you feel, I would just move on and not go any farther. Clearly you don't want an older boyfriend so why waste his and your time?

As to wanting your first boyfriend to be memorable I think that's totally normal. Hopefully your first boyfriend is also your last and you have a great and long relationship. But if that doesn't happen, it's not the end of the world. At least you'll have learned more about yourself and what you want in a boyfriend.
 
how old did you think he was before you saw his facebook page?

If you thought he was ok before you knew his age then he's probably good for you. Don't consider him through the lens of your friends or family or society.
 
Well i tought he was about 30. To be honest, at the time i spoke to him i had quite a few beers, so he might have looked more attractive because of that. When i looked at his facebook page, he seemed much older on the pictures, so i'm going to blame the beer.

And when i read the comments on his facebook page it totally turned me away from him. Most of his posts are about sex or sexy guys, pictures show him either shirtless or in a suggestive position, etc. So i don't think this is a good guy.

It's all so simple now. But i'm still happy to see that there are so many replies to my question, as some go very deep. you guys have been a great help in my understanding of how these things work, thanks for that.
 
@panopticonpeter,

I know that its probably not going to last, i never had that illusion. But i never had a boyfriend. I want my first one to be rememberable. Not 20 years older than me. Or is that too naieve?

Oh give it up then.

You are carrying around way more baggage than the poor guy you want to date needs at his advanced age. To be blunt, he just wanted to fuck and discard you anyway. Most guys after 40 don't have a lot of energy to expend trying to raise a child.

If you were already thinking of the guy as your first 'boyfriend' and worried that he just wouldn't be memorable enough when you bothered to think of him some day, he just didsn't need you.

Stay with your own age group or maybe a year younger and maybe you'll be lucky and find someone who is at the same emotional age as you are.

But you probably missed out on some incredible sex.
 
You are carrying around way more baggage than the poor guy you want to date needs at his advanced age. To be blunt, he just wanted to fuck and discard you anyway. Most guys after 40 don't have a lot of energy to expend trying to raise a child.

More baggage? I assume you mean i'm quite serious about who i date/have sex with. Raise a child? What's that got to do with dating? For the record, i'm seeing an insult here but i choose to believe that's not what you meant.


Stay with your own age group or maybe a year younger and maybe you'll be lucky and find someone who is at the same emotional age as you are.
But you probably missed out on some incredible sex.

Life's not all about sex. Even I can tell you that. Emotional age? Please read the last line of my first reply to your quote.
 
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