Attention IN MEMORIAM: JUBBERS/SOCK PUPPEETS/TROLLS WHO LEFT in 2013

[Rolyo85]

CE&P welcomes all viewpoints. Doesn't mean racism, xenophobia, sexism and homophobia (and it's depressing how many outright homophobes we have here) is part of any political discourse.

 

[xbuzzerx]

Then why do most of Hollywood celebrities openly campaign for Democrats?

Pat, look deeper.

We can safely classify acting as a "creative art", and like all others--painters, etc.--they do tend to have leftist sympathies, in the same way that bankers and Wall Street types tend to have rightest sympathies.

I see nothing mysterious about it.

It breaks his more comfortable, simplistic worldview that anyone who actually has money or assets would "wise up" and become a conservative, so he chooses without foundation to dismiss that rich people are "really" progressive, and are just keeping up an appearance of it for tax or PR benefits.

 

[pat grimshaw]

Then why do most of Hollywood celebrities openly campaign for Democrats?…

Because the biggest consumer demographic in the international entertainment industry are aged between 12 and 30. And those people are less likely to have assets, businesses or employees.

And, Johann, you need to get to meet some of the workers in the entertainment industry first-hand and you'll see they're as creative/manipulative/ boring/whatever than any other commercial industry. They're are no more special than any of us.

 

[xbuzzerx]

^You have decided for them what they are thinking?

Good gracious.

Like many conservatives he cannot conceive of anything taking any precedence over pure financial self-interest or the perception of such, so that is how he necessarily must view everyone else's motives.

 

[pat grimshaw]

^ Pish!

Tell that to your grandparents who went through WWII or the Depression.

 

[xbuzzerx]

^ Pish!

Tell that to your grandparents who went through WWII or the Depression.

My grandfather who served in WWII and married a woman from an orphanage during the Depression was a progressive and opened the first joint white-black law firm in his area of the state of Ohio.

Fish more, Pat.

 

[borg69unimatrix]

Because the biggest consumer demographic in the international entertainment industry are aged between 12 and 30. And those people are less likely to have assets, businesses or employees.

And, Johann, you need to get to meet some of the workers in the entertainment industry first-hand and you'll see they're as creative/manipulative/ boring/whatever than any other commercial industry. They're are no more special than any of us.

Just out of curiosity... how many of these people have you met???

 

[pat grimshaw]

^ You want me to drop names? they do include 2 US Oscar winners

 

[xbuzzerx]

^ You want me to drop names? they do include 2 US Oscar winners

Your position continues to have utterly no merit and your inability to back up your claims is why you wisely stay out of real discussions among adults.

 

[borg69unimatrix]

^ You want me to drop names? they do include 2 US Oscar winners

*I* personally wouldn't base any opinions on any sub-culture after only meeting TWO representatives of that sub-culture.

 

[Callum]

Because the biggest consumer demographic in the international entertainment industry are aged between 12 and 30. And those people are less likely to have assets, businesses or employees.

And, Johann, you need to get to meet some of the workers in the entertainment industry first-hand and you'll see they're as creative/manipulative/ boring/whatever than any other commercial industry. They're are no more special than any of us.

Oh, so this logic is the reasoning behind you questioning me.

Nope, I don't buy into contemporary entertainment. The views of Katy Perry, Beyonce, Tim Tebow, etc, have zero effects on my political beliefs. They are not well-educated, and they do not they offer anything insightful. I admittedly have leftist leanings, mostly because I'm in academia, and I value the power of independent thought (which is something stringent conservative views cannot offer me).

I suppose this is a conversation better left in CE&P.

 

[rareboy]

Your position continues to have utterly no merit and your inability to back up your claims is why you wisely stay out of real discussions among adults.

*high fives Buzzer for totally owning Grimshaw who still persists in derailing the thread*

*gently tells Pat that removing plates in a restuaurant for two 'celebrities' who won Oscars for sound editing isn't the same as meeting them*

 

[borg69unimatrix]

*high fives Buzzer for totally owning Grimshaw who still persists in derailing the thread*

*gently tells Pat that removing plates in a restuaurant for two 'celebrities' who won Oscars for sound editing isn't the same as meeting them*

My guess would have been the valet at a Liza Minnelli & Cher look-a-like Leather Drag show.

 

[pat grimshaw]

… Actors TEND to be more …

Actors, Schmactors!

Probably, may be.

 

[JayHawk]

Ugh, CE&P is leaking again.

I know! I think i got some on my pants.... this is bullshit! Anyone know how to get a stain out of wool pants... jeesh!

P.S. I came here for the reason Chance was banned... all he got was an honorable mention from Rareboy... lol. I wonder if that chaps his ass... not being missed. Meh!

To stay on topic I was using my sock puppet this morning... the tip is still a bit sensitive......

 

[rareboy]

Funny you should mention Chance.

Does anyone know when he will be released back into the wilds of CE&P?

 

[xbuzzerx]

I know! I think i got some on my pants.... this is bullshit! Anyone know how to get a stain out of wool pants... jeesh!

P.S. I came here for the reason Chance was banned... all he got was an honorable mention from Rareboy... lol. I wonder if that chaps his ass... not being missed. Meh!

To stay on topic I was using my sock puppet this morning... the tip is still a bit sensitive......

Funny you should mention Chance.

Does anyone know when he will be released back into the wilds of CE&P?

I was JUST going to ask that when I saw Jayhawk's post. Has he been gone more than 1 week? No one down in CE&P seems to know if his ban is permanent or temporary.

Also, although I do not know if it will actually go through to self-deletion or not, I received a PM from MattClaimer informing me that for various reasons he is done with this site and doesn't plan to be returning. Just FYI for everyone.

 

[CowboyBob]

Funny you should mention Chance.

Does anyone know when he will be released back into the wilds of CE&P?

Who cares? Just enjoy the pretentious haiku-free forum while it lasts.

 

[borg69unimatrix]

Also, although I do not know if it will actually go through to self-deletion or not, I received a PM from MattClaimer informing me that for various reasons he is done with this site and doesn't plan to be returning. Just FYI for everyone.

I got a similar letter from him. I'm very disappointed. I thought MattClaimer was a pretty cool, intelligent, sexy as hell guy, and he was a great addition to JUB. He will be greatly missed.

 

[rareboy]

I was JUST going to ask that when I saw Jayhawk's post. Has he been gone more than 1 week? No one down in CE&P seems to know if his ban is permanent or temporary.

Also, although I do not know if it will actually go through to self-deletion or not, I received a PM from MattClaimer informing me that for various reasons he is done with this site and doesn't plan to be returning. Just FYI for everyone.

Well my finger prints definitely aren't on this one.

So what pissed him off?