Indiana Legalizes Discrimination Against Gays

[T-Rexx]

Miley Cyrus calls Indiana Gov. Pence an "asshole".

Hillary Clinton tweets "Sad this new Indiana law can happen in America today. We shouldn't discriminate against ppl bc of who they love"

 

[chrisrobin]

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/boro...stupidity-as-religion?intcid=mod-most-popular


Indiana Defines Stupidity as Religion

By Andy Borowitz

INDIANAPOLIS (The Borowitz Report)—In a history-making decision, Gov. Mike Pence of Indiana has signed into law a bill that officially recognizes stupidity as a religion.

Pence said that he hoped the law would protect millions of state residents “who, like me, have been practicing this religion passionately for years.”

Maybe we could legalize discrimination against intelligence!

 

[SaskGuy]

I don't see how this can possibly be constitutional at all. It clearly violates the 9th Amendment. The right to religious liberty cannot constitutionally deny or disparage any other right including the right of equal protection. All rights stand equal and no one right has more force than any other right.

Religious liberty allows them to refuse communion to gays in their churches based on their beliefs. It does not allow a waiter in a restaurant to refuse gays a seat at the table because of their beliefs.

If you start allowing "my right is better than your right", then there are no rights.

I guarantee that these people who are ignoring the 9th amendment are the same ones who would fight to the death over the 2nd amendment... you know, because not allowing rednecks to carry a loaded shotgun into a convenience store is "anti-American".

 

[T-Rexx]

I don't see how this can possibly be constitutional at all. It clearly violates the 9th Amendment. The right to religious liberty cannot constitutionally deny or disparage any other right including the right of equal protection. All rights stand equal and no one right has more force than any other right.

Religious liberty allows them to refuse communion to gays in their churches based on their beliefs. It does not allow a waiter in a restaurant to refuse gays a seat at the table because of their beliefs.

If you start allowing "my right is better than your right", then there are no rights.

The Supreme Court's decision in Hobby Lobby shattered the conventional wisdom you just laid out.

Hobby Lobby made "closely held" corporations churches, and gave them the right to ignore federal laws, based on the corporation's religious convictions.

 

[chrisrobin]

The Supreme Court's decision in Hobby Lobby shattered the conventional wisdom you just laid out.

Hobby Lobby made "closely held" corporations churches, and gave them the right to ignore federal laws, based on the corporation's religious convictions.

If this were the case, the courts could sanction human sacrifice. Look here, Mr. Man. I'm a devout Aztec and you are impinging on my freedom of religion!

 

[Keeland]

If this were the case, the courts could sanction human sacrifice.

It will happen. The final solution grows closer in California.

 

[LuckysRevenge]

Wait.. why isn't this in Hot Topics?

I think this is pretty important stuff

 

[Ninja108]

There is no statewide law in Indiana protecting LGBT citizens from discrimination, thus this bill wasn't needed.
The only thing bill did is gut the local laws of the few cities and towns that had laws to protect LGBT citizens in place and to drive home the point that LGBT people aren't welcome in Indiana.

 

[LittleDove]

The Constitution only prohibits discrimination buy the states or Federal government, although that had been amended by the Supreme Court. Federal law, however prohibits discrimination someone in services and employment based on his or her religion etc.. Nothing would prohibit discrimination against Gingrich based on adultery, but against Robertson based on his religion would be prohibited.

You seem to miss the point.

What's the difference between refusing to rent a motel room to Gingrich and his current harlot and refusing to rent a motel room to me and a young man?

 

[Orlandude]

Just another attempt by the conservative far right loons to turn this country into a theocracy. These far right extremists would have been totally ignored not so long ago but the lunatic fringe keep voting in these republican governors who are nothing but theocrats. It’s the only way they can get any votes. Pence will regret this. I see he would not let the media in the room when he signed this bceause he was surrounded by religious nutjobs who probably had a political gun to his head. Conservatives love blackmail. They love the politcs of personal destruction. When it starts costing Indiana millions in lost revenue, they’ll sober up.

 

[frankfrank]

Maybe there should be laws passed that require any public accommodation to POST A SIGN detailing what groups or types of people they discriminate against, if they discriminate.

And, if SCOTUS is to be consistent with having ruled there is no legal buffer-zone at all between abortion clinics and anti-abortion protesters who gather with the intention of intimidating those who may want to use those services, they must also rule that it's OK for anti-discrimination protesters to similarly gather around and choke off customers of a discriminatory entity that serves the public, as well.

 

[TX-Beau]

The problem will be that the gays and Protestants and Buddhists and Muslims, and feminists, and Fundamentalists, and Republicans will all have to self-discriminate, since the people who own the accommodation will have no idea who is who.

 

[TX-Beau]

OR who is currently offending their religious sensibilities - doctrine is not static after all.

 

[Benvolio]

You seem to miss the point.

What's the difference between refusing to rent a motel room to Gingrich and his current harlot and refusing to rent a motel room to me and a young man?

None. There is no law prohibiting the refusing the motel room to Gingrich.

 

[xboxfan34]

http://www.indystar.com/story/news/...ign-religious-freedom-bill-thursday/70448858/

 

[mikey3000]

The worst part is, these so called "christians" who wrap themselves in the bible can barely recite the ten commandments themselves. They stupidly choose to follow religious leaders who tell them just what to think because they can't think for themselves. No wonder people laugh at hicks from Indiana. Shame.

Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame!

 

[CoolBlue71]

Re: So no one is posting about Indiana? Homosexual discrimination legalized

This is terrible, I'm seeing these homophobic (or, "religious freedom") laws popping up all over the place. ….

But, remember, this is not animus!

And shame on you if you think otherwise—the Republican Party is the Party of Lincoln!

Once marriage equality is recognized as law throughout the United States of America … do make sure to remember that it was the Log Cabin Republicans and GOProud groups which were out front with having spearheaded the painstaking efforts to turn this into reality.

I cannot believe us LGBT people gave Mitt Romney only 22 percent of our vote, nationwide, in the 2012 United States presidential election! No one feels more love for us LGBT people than Mitt Romney (and his vice-presidential running mate Paul Ryan)! What ungrateful fucks we are!

The few Gay Republicans on Just Us Boys—plus the ones who were kicked out—will be able to exquisitely, and unassailably, express why it is we non-Republicans are erring in our ways.

 

[lambdaboy]

One of the reasons I will never live in The U.S. again if there was a God he would never bless America. Been to Indiana think of it as the ass hole of Illinois.

 

[Benvolio]

Re: So no one is posting about Indiana? Homosexual discrimination legalized

But, remember, this is not animus!

And shame on you if you think otherwise—the Republican Party is the Party of Lincoln!

Once marriage equality is recognized as law throughout the United States of America … do make sure to remember that it was the Log Cabin Republicans and GOProud groups which were out front with having spearheaded the painstaking efforts to turn this into reality.

I cannot believe us LGBT people gave Mitt Romney only 22 percent of our vote, nationwide, in the 2012 United States presidential election! No one feels more love for us LGBT people than Mitt Romney (and his vice-presidential running mate Paul Ryan)! What ungrateful fucks we are!

The few Gay Republicans on Just Us Boys—plus the ones who were kicked out—will be able to exquisitely, and unassailably, express why it is we non-Republicans are erring in our ways.

Gay men have been served in restaurants, apartments and motels for as long as such have existed, with a tiny, tiny few exceptions. The problem arises when gays demand laws forcing service and demanding that yet another area of life , another part of freedom be regulated by law. Alas, liberals believe that every tiny detail in life should be governed by law and political correctness. They will not be happy until our is a totalitarian government.
I live in a conservative Midwestern Republican state, and I have never heard of a restaurant, apartment, bar or motel denying service to gays. We have not changed the definition of marriage but I know gay couples who have lived together in peace for decades.

 

[belamyi]

What I have learned from this thread, apart from what the title summarizes: Indiana is something like the dirty arsehole-up of America, and the United States of America are definitely more like the Patched-Together States of America, in which people have fundamental laws and rights uniting them, privileging them above virtually the rest of the world, and yet their main business is to keep each other out of the business of each other.